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December 5th, 2016
Try this exercise for entitlement and let me know how it works for you..........
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Tyler

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I'm just flipping through a few Youtube videos and happened to stumble on this.  I think this video was sort of "slept on" as far as an amazing exercise, in terms of revealing things about pulling really hot women.

Okay so watch the video........



Now what I want you to do is go find a REALLY hot girl.  Like the hottest in the club ideally.  Then try the exercise on a few fatties and do the exact same thing on the hot girl.  Again, divorcing your emotions and simply focusing the physical act of doing THE EXACT SAME THING you did on the fatty, but on the perfect 10.

This revealed huge insights about my game -- basically that "entitlement" is the idea in your head about what girls you can not give a fuck around.  What you think of as your "A Game" is really just THE SAME SLOPPY GAME you'd use on some girl you don't give a fuck about.

I noticed this especially out last night, because we were at the hottest club in Hollywood and acting a bit nervous the first few minutes.  I bumped into a BC alumni and I was like "Dood we're NOT acting all dont-give-a-fuck mode like we did on bootcamp because we're letting the exclusive vibe of the venue drag us down and think we need to be all sophisticated.  Let's just act like idiots like we did on BC and we'll kick ass..."

Anyway try it out and let me know how it goes, I'd love to hear if this exercise works for others as well as it's worked for me.

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Cyzoner

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Great vid. The reason you have such great game when you're approaching bad-looking girls is because you don't perceive them to have any value. Through evolution it is naturally hardwired into us to experience anxiety when we are trying to communicate to someone of high value, because in tribal times disrespecting the leader or "alpha male" meant death. However in today's society a high value person poses no threat, and the fear is completely useless to you.
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Jaguar

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What happens to me is when I approach a bad looking girl my game sucks. When the girl is hot I feel on and alive.   
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UtopiaFive

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Hey

Going to be newly moved to the SF Bay Area this weekend, I'll try it out.  Let you know whats up by Sunday.

--Tom
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NightWolf

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Tyler thx for this, is awesome! Nice work. I'll try it out this weekend.
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Last year, I was out with some friends on "Ugly Wednesday"
these guys told me; "we want to become male whores, so we need to be able to fuck ugly chicks, that why we do this"

Everybody would hand over a couple of euros, and these were the rules:
- You are not allowed to flirt with HB6's or higher. (gives you a penalty or less points)
- The uglier, the better.
- The further you escalate, the better.
- Guy who pulls the ugliest chick gets the price money.

This is basically the same exercise, only with a high self-amusement factor,
in which we challenge each other to approach girls that were even more unattractive to us.
this was of course quite hillarious.

Or course, at first glance, this game might seem highly immoral and just plain evil.
But... when you try to seduce a ugly/unattractive girl, you really need to look past the looks and see the human behind it.
So it actually destroyed (!!) the judgemental / evil attitude towards fatties.
(And while you could argue you are "using" them, you could better say: you give them a good time)

As it turns out, if stop thinking girls are "not good enough", you also stop putting girls on a pedestal.
Without hating, there is no neediness.
It destroys outcome dependence...!

Lessons were
- You really have to convince these girls you are into them (it is so outside their reality).... You really see how these girls cockblock themselves.
Makes you see how you cockblock yourself out of your own insecurity to (entitlement issues).
Makes you also practice having a stronger reality, and persisting.
- Destroys outcome dependence. (When on a "break", approaching hot girls was not only a relief from all the fatties, it was also easy)
- Destroys hate / judging / lookng down upon unattractive girls, makes you connect as human-to-a-human. (Can be quite shocking how judgemental you actually were, as I like to think of myself as unjudgemental)

Now-a-days, I use my aversion to flirt with unattractive chicks as an important indicator on what I need to do.
If I don't feel at ease flirting with an unattractive girl, then I know I am being needy instead of free from outcome, because I think: "I don't want to give her the wrong idea,...[that i want something more = neediness!]".

This blends really well with: "first 2 hours only socializing" - I socialize and flirt with everybody (not screeing, not selective at all), until I notice that aversion is gone.
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Stolen!
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rogerhelms

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 I've done something similar to this and I have concluded that it works better on prettier / hotter girls than uglier ones. I have even came to the realization that I get blown out more often from uglier chicks, which is seriously some mind=blown shit. Couple of times I was like "what? YOU blew me off? I'm hotter than you, how can that be..." when doing aggressive type approaches. Too much assholery? I dunno, but I feel I did it the same way each time.

Gangsta ass opener, but I cant ever do something like that as my first approach, those 1st approach jitters kinda ruin it. Gotta wait a little longer in the night.
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Powerhouse

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nice, i'll be around the bay more this year too
UtopiaFive wrote:
Hey

Going to be newly moved to the SF Bay Area this weekend, I'll try it out.  Let you know whats up by Sunday.

--Tom
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Tyler the abominable snowman.
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UtopiaFive

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Apparently I'm on or off situationally rather than on a this girl or that girl basis lately.  

Also I think this isn't necessarily accurate because yes I feel like "it gets you started" fine but the fatties RESPOND a lot more quickly than a lot of HOTTIES will.  

e.g. If you're public speaking and the crowd is laughing constantly versus they're sitting looking at you QUIETLY AND ATTENTIVELY one of these responses allows you to DRAW STATE FROM RESPONSES whereas the latter situation you're all on your own.  Still helpful though, I think its good regardless to know what your game is like objetively rather than DOING IT WHEN IM ON and then STANDING AROUND WHEN IM OFF, if that makes sense.  
UtopiaFive wrote:
Hey

Going to be newly moved to the SF Bay Area this weekend, I'll try it out.  Let you know whats up by Sunday.

--Tom
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