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Keke012

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Join Date: 03/10/2012 | Posts: 31

Wow, it's an amazing idea.

But, as much as i like to masturbate mentally, i don't think that 20 hours is a good idea.

If the guy didn't know about pick up, i don't think that there is a need to talk pick up for that long. It will just get confusing. There will be too much stuff.

So, if I had a friend I would like to get into pick up, I would like you to just show them what is possible. Break their reality right off the bat. I already showed some of your stuff to friends, but it was not powerful enough (but at the same time, some might go like "Its an actress ! That guy is... a ginger ! WTF !?"). But, if they were to be receptive, yeah, I think it would be a great idea to break their reality immediatly.

And, since I'm still a chode (not really proud of it), the approach is the hard part. So, just praticly, how to approach. A really practical video. That would be great.

To finish, the inner part would be awezome. But just a bit, just to give a taste. Because, let's face it, most newbies don't get into pick up to develop themselfs. They just want to fuck (or get a girlfriend). Most of them won't be willing to listen to you talking about meditation... But they might be after a few months into pick up.

There it is. I hope it was helpful.

Kevin
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jenlawillgetyou

jenlawillgetyou

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Join Date: 05/26/2012 | Posts: 518

Hell, the truth is guys here grabbed RSD because they really wanted to, as someone said here.

And I found it over and over again when I tryed to introduce friends on RSD. It's to a point where I deeply believed most people weren't made for it, and no way they were going to be so.

There has got to exist a smooth transiction between what society makes them think and what it really is. Otherwise it's a huge shock, completely unbearable.

I'd say talk chode, then half-chode, then semi-chode, then may the champ talk begin. ;)
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matt_c

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Join Date: 11/20/2011 | Posts: 471

I would love to see Tyler pull this off. I mean to the point where you can show it to some chode who SHOULD be into pickup and he'll accept it and become into it. Because i've NEVER been successful getting anyone to try it out. There are many of my friends (and many people I'll meet in the future) who I would love to help out by getting them into pickup... but I don't yet have the ability to convince them to commit. This site would help me convince them. Not that I want to "force" them... but I want to offer an option in the most attractive way possible.
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Cat

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Join Date: 12/03/2010 | Posts: 2300

Tyler, I think that the biggest BENEFIT for Newbies is to FORMAT THE CONTENT TO BE IMPACT DRIVEN.

I absolutely fucking LOVE thinking in "80/20" terms.

So regardless of what you put out, I would think formatting the content in a way that really emphasizes what is MOST IMPORTANT THAT YOU MUST DO OR SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE vs what's "hobby" level material.

This really helps solidify the absoulute musts in the game.

I wrote a short post on this but my 80/20 is:
A good approach (eye contact, voice, getting in their space, holding the tension)
A good mindset (have fun, make this about action not results)
And a good long-term vision (beliefs and mindsets for success and "the long narrow road")

Thanks for thinking of the noobs.  I always focus on the fundamentals everynight I go out and as such I think this content would benefit me greatly as well.
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sabster

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Join Date: 11/14/2008 | Posts: 995

 tyler, i think one of the most important parts of the game that guys don't understand is that they have to trust the process. they have to know that whether the approach is good or bad, your nervous or not, whatever happens in any interaction, that shit makes you BETTER. that's a pretty solid foundation that i have that i understand on a deep level. i have no issue "getting a girl" because i know at any time, i can quickly build momentum or get in state (using lines I know will push my comfort zone hard) and the girl will come from this. 

i think in order to get guy's to trust the process is use case studies from guys that have been in the field for a while so they can use it as a trust factor. for me, i knew and trusted the process because i had literally no social skills with women, so the first time i even really cold approached was from RSD and with RSD guys and i felt all the subtle differences that were explained in the blueprint so shit clicked for me fast. but many guys, they have had mediocre success, so it's more difficult for them to find and trust this process because it's foreign. 
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Elamanopiskelija

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Join Date: 11/08/2011 | Posts: 485

Surreal wrote:




The truth is, people who want it bad will figure shit out with 0% resources aswell.

This is so true. It is my case also, when I wanted to start meeting girls it never crossed my mind the idea of looking it up on a book or in the internet. I just went out and did it, and did it much better than now that I supposedly know "what to do" from my experience.

But think about the money side of it, there is a huge base of newbies out there, it is a great market. You can't let it escape
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Franny

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Join Date: 11/26/2011 | Posts: 29

As a newbie, the biggest sticking point I have is understanding the difference between giggly, fun 'attraction' and more intense, sexual 'arousal' and how to generate the latter. If you're a fun, social guy it seems really easy to get that giggly attraction, but I'm not amazing at creating that sexual vibe yet, and I feel a signpost would be great for beginners.
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Egyptian

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Join Date: 10/04/2010 | Posts: 90

Quite simply I think that the most beneficial thing that could be done is to cut through the mystery (no pun intended) and the taboo-ness of the pick up community. That's the starting point. It has to be framed as something different or more than just "the pick up community" which, when I talk about it with my old friends, they just get a little nervous because I've somehow gotten stucked in to this strange thing that they see as just a trivial, dead-end pursuit. A good chunk of the first bit of this website has to make a persusive argument to the mainstream and maybe a discussion on how this path has helped other guys. Really set up the problem that a lot of guys face and how pick up can be the help that they need. The argument has to be backed up with evidence - it has to be somewhat scientific plus of course Tyler sharing what he's learned by doing this 10+ years and how he's an extremely credible source of wisdom. I'm sure Tyler already has most of the content for a lot of website because it would just be a rehashing of what every one in the community already knows. The fundamentals never change. However, it has to be put together in a really streamlined and effective way.
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RagaTanha

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Join Date: 06/30/2008 | Posts: 986

 Some basic self-help advice of taking massive action and changing your beliefs through creating reference experiences should be in there somewhere.
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Ghettoguru

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Join Date: 12/28/2011 | Posts: 429

I mean even though there is always room for improvement, the RSD coaches are doing a fantastic job imo. Im aware of certain coaches having their own websites i.e manwhore.org, bradbranson.com, their own books and the stuff they put up are money. This is so much simpler and natural than following some robotic routine which i was sort of into at the end of 2011. 

However, at teh end of the day, it's all on the newbies and whether THEY WANT to do the WORK.
It's up to them whether they're willing to fall in order to rise. You're giving us all these tools BUT as great as they are, NOTHING beats field experience and reference points... nothing. And I am not the first to say this.
Last week one of my buddies told me he met up with a community guy in Texas, they went out. That community guys loaded himself with drinks, yet did 0 approach...
How would you help someone who doesn't want to be helped? Someone who, for 5 mins, wants to achieve a certain goal and then decides to sit out the rest of the day.
i've fallen into that trap myself, not just with girls but with life in general. Occasionally i would backtrack but i do recognize my faults and keep them to a bare minimum. 

And also like someone here said, make them aware they don't have to act like clowns. The power of simplicity and congruence is just rewarding.
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