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8/24
Went out to some bar. It was really crappy seeing as there were very few girls there.
I got to just go and do what I do regardless of the number of girls there. I know of Tim's ideology just forgot abou it.
Crappy night overall
Problems: didn't open anybody
Went out to some bar. It was really crappy seeing as there were very few girls there.
I got to just go and do what I do regardless of the number of girls there. I know of Tim's ideology just forgot abou it.
Crappy night overall
Problems: didn't open anybody
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8/25
Went out again. Headed over to one bar at first. Yuck, hated the people there, so I decided to leave, was kind of empty
Headed over to another bar. wtf $20 cover. whatever. went inside, raged. Danced with some girl, realized that I can just grab her and start dancing with her and she wouldn't care. Talked to the girl next to me for a bit.
Headed over to another bar. Opened up two girls, talked to them for quite a bit. My conversations were flowing, i was pretty happy. Opened up another girl later, same thing...eventually bf came in and grabbed her away. My intereactions were wack on Monday night, today they were great.
Sticking Points: escalating, outside of verbal escalation. Also, learn to meet girls in a louder venue. I only talk to them on the porch-like area of bars. I can't talk very well when there's the music blasting.
Realizations: I can just be myself. Nothing else. It'll work. These girls just opened up to me as I started talking to them, I didn't bounce out of sets like I did on monday night. It's also no big deal talking to them
Went out again. Headed over to one bar at first. Yuck, hated the people there, so I decided to leave, was kind of empty
Headed over to another bar. wtf $20 cover. whatever. went inside, raged. Danced with some girl, realized that I can just grab her and start dancing with her and she wouldn't care. Talked to the girl next to me for a bit.
Headed over to another bar. Opened up two girls, talked to them for quite a bit. My conversations were flowing, i was pretty happy. Opened up another girl later, same thing...eventually bf came in and grabbed her away. My intereactions were wack on Monday night, today they were great.
Sticking Points: escalating, outside of verbal escalation. Also, learn to meet girls in a louder venue. I only talk to them on the porch-like area of bars. I can't talk very well when there's the music blasting.
Realizations: I can just be myself. Nothing else. It'll work. These girls just opened up to me as I started talking to them, I didn't bounce out of sets like I did on monday night. It's also no big deal talking to them
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Forgot to inculde something about myself
Hey I'm a current sophomore at college. I've watched through the RSD stuff last year, but lost a lot of steam, so I decided to rewatch the Blueprint. I started to care too much about the whole RAS thing and it was really messing with me. I figured to watch it again to fix up anything I was thinking weird. Working well so far.
Other than that
Hey I'm a current sophomore at college. I've watched through the RSD stuff last year, but lost a lot of steam, so I decided to rewatch the Blueprint. I started to care too much about the whole RAS thing and it was really messing with me. I figured to watch it again to fix up anything I was thinking weird. Working well so far.
Other than that
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8/26
Went to one of the bars I went to last night.
Started off kind of chodey, but started dancing and got myself in the mood. Finally my buddies started to roll in which was awesome. didn't see a lot of these guys for a while.
Starting to develop dance floor game pretty well, I can just grab her by the hand and start swinging with her.
Had some nice convos with a few girls, approached a lot...got sidetracked a lot though while talking to them
Saw the first 10/10 in my life, this girl was gorgeous...i saw some dude talking her up and brought her to a table. i legit jumped to her, told her that she was the most gorgeous person i've seen in my life, whatever, and how speechless I was. I kind of just stood there because I had nothing to say at all. She keeps telling me about her boyfriend but i'm like i don't give a fuck about him. I kiss her on the shoulders and stuff. but whatever, I decided it wasn't happening. But wow I actually approached this girl. I needed to plow some more. struck up convo with her friend as well, whatever. they all warn me about her boyfriend. don't give a fuck. close to a # close but my buddies told me that they were leaving. damn...hope to see her some other night
Also tried to be really direct and go for the makeout. started dancing with some girl, brought her in was talking in her ears for a bit, she couldn't hear. so i grabbed her face looked directly at it, and tried to go for a makeout, but she kind fo pulled away. I'm like whatever and i left...on second thought i probably shouldnt' have left. the stuff i'm doing, i'm not really getting any punishments for
Some girls opened me which was cool, and a few were interested. awesome fun night..raging to a jam band
Sticking Point: I leave sets too early today...got to fix that up and just stick with the girl...unfortuantely i don't want to risk things getting awkward because this is a social circle situation
Went to one of the bars I went to last night.
Started off kind of chodey, but started dancing and got myself in the mood. Finally my buddies started to roll in which was awesome. didn't see a lot of these guys for a while.
Starting to develop dance floor game pretty well, I can just grab her by the hand and start swinging with her.
Had some nice convos with a few girls, approached a lot...got sidetracked a lot though while talking to them
Saw the first 10/10 in my life, this girl was gorgeous...i saw some dude talking her up and brought her to a table. i legit jumped to her, told her that she was the most gorgeous person i've seen in my life, whatever, and how speechless I was. I kind of just stood there because I had nothing to say at all. She keeps telling me about her boyfriend but i'm like i don't give a fuck about him. I kiss her on the shoulders and stuff. but whatever, I decided it wasn't happening. But wow I actually approached this girl. I needed to plow some more. struck up convo with her friend as well, whatever. they all warn me about her boyfriend. don't give a fuck. close to a # close but my buddies told me that they were leaving. damn...hope to see her some other night
Also tried to be really direct and go for the makeout. started dancing with some girl, brought her in was talking in her ears for a bit, she couldn't hear. so i grabbed her face looked directly at it, and tried to go for a makeout, but she kind fo pulled away. I'm like whatever and i left...on second thought i probably shouldnt' have left. the stuff i'm doing, i'm not really getting any punishments for
Some girls opened me which was cool, and a few were interested. awesome fun night..raging to a jam band
Sticking Point: I leave sets too early today...got to fix that up and just stick with the girl...unfortuantely i don't want to risk things getting awkward because this is a social circle situation
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8/27
Roll into a bar around 11:40. Again sarging solo. None of my friends were coming to this place tonight. Start to rock out to the jam band. I see this one girl grab her hand and ask her to dance. We start dancing. I start being a bad dancer and she says something like "oh how about I get you a drink" and she leaves. I figure she wasn't coming back,. but maybe I'm wrong...whatever.
I go head over to another bar, I see one of my friends there. I chat him up a bit. Then head on over and see these two girls. One definately gave me a wrong name. Whatever I start talking to them a bit mocking them for using the wrong names and whatnot. But I didn't feel the set was going anywhere so I kind of ejected...i should stop ejecting
I go see another girl standing alone, I start talking to her, she starts smiling. I ask her to come outside because I wanted to talk to her, but she tells me she has to wait for her friend because she was going home
I head back to the original bar. I walk up to this one girl in between two dudes. I introduce myself to her, and she was kind of receptive and start talking. Her buddies [one was apparently her boyfriend], start trying to talk to me and whatnot. I still manage to keep somewhat of a conversation with them, but it got kind fo weird.
I head over to another nearby bar. I go in and see this one girl just standing there. I start talking to her and she was pretty giggly. I ask her to go outside to talk. She tells me she's waiting for her friend, blah blah. We talk a little bit inside then her friend comes out and they leave.
Forgot to mention, I started a conversation with two lesbians on the walk to one of the bars. They were getting married in a week. It was a fun interaction, the girl said the word pussy weirdly. Apparently the two met because one was the TA of the other..talk about ethics.
Back at the bar, I see some girl with a dude and some other girl. I start chatting up the girl and just blurting out whatever. She wasn't really responding to me too much. She brings up the question of age randomly. I tell her oh 21...actually 19, whatever. she says I'm too old for you or something along those lines and wahtnot, so i just ditch.
Anyway, the bar closes because I was there kind of late. I see some girl as I'm heading out, she's tall. I introduce myself to her, tell her something about how big she is and whatnot. she's giggling and stuff, she then looks at me like I'm too drunk or something and hopes that i get a cab back home or something along those lines. I tell her to help me and get a cab for me, she says something about if I could I would, and she goes off.
I see this other girl just standing there alone start talking to her ask her why she's staring inside. She tells me something about her friend is inside and she had lost her iphone or some shit. we are talking for a bit. then the friend comes out, and starts talking to her, they decide to leave, she gives me a hug, and they bounce.
There might have been more sets, but whatever
I'm donig something wrong, i can't keep attraction up or something.. i don't know. I need help
Roll into a bar around 11:40. Again sarging solo. None of my friends were coming to this place tonight. Start to rock out to the jam band. I see this one girl grab her hand and ask her to dance. We start dancing. I start being a bad dancer and she says something like "oh how about I get you a drink" and she leaves. I figure she wasn't coming back,. but maybe I'm wrong...whatever.
I go head over to another bar, I see one of my friends there. I chat him up a bit. Then head on over and see these two girls. One definately gave me a wrong name. Whatever I start talking to them a bit mocking them for using the wrong names and whatnot. But I didn't feel the set was going anywhere so I kind of ejected...i should stop ejecting
I go see another girl standing alone, I start talking to her, she starts smiling. I ask her to come outside because I wanted to talk to her, but she tells me she has to wait for her friend because she was going home
I head back to the original bar. I walk up to this one girl in between two dudes. I introduce myself to her, and she was kind of receptive and start talking. Her buddies [one was apparently her boyfriend], start trying to talk to me and whatnot. I still manage to keep somewhat of a conversation with them, but it got kind fo weird.
I head over to another nearby bar. I go in and see this one girl just standing there. I start talking to her and she was pretty giggly. I ask her to go outside to talk. She tells me she's waiting for her friend, blah blah. We talk a little bit inside then her friend comes out and they leave.
Forgot to mention, I started a conversation with two lesbians on the walk to one of the bars. They were getting married in a week. It was a fun interaction, the girl said the word pussy weirdly. Apparently the two met because one was the TA of the other..talk about ethics.
Back at the bar, I see some girl with a dude and some other girl. I start chatting up the girl and just blurting out whatever. She wasn't really responding to me too much. She brings up the question of age randomly. I tell her oh 21...actually 19, whatever. she says I'm too old for you or something along those lines and wahtnot, so i just ditch.
Anyway, the bar closes because I was there kind of late. I see some girl as I'm heading out, she's tall. I introduce myself to her, tell her something about how big she is and whatnot. she's giggling and stuff, she then looks at me like I'm too drunk or something and hopes that i get a cab back home or something along those lines. I tell her to help me and get a cab for me, she says something about if I could I would, and she goes off.
I see this other girl just standing there alone start talking to her ask her why she's staring inside. She tells me something about her friend is inside and she had lost her iphone or some shit. we are talking for a bit. then the friend comes out, and starts talking to her, they decide to leave, she gives me a hug, and they bounce.
There might have been more sets, but whatever
I'm donig something wrong, i can't keep attraction up or something.. i don't know. I need help
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8/27
I'm donig something wrong, i can't keep attraction up or something.. i don't know. I need help
I'm donig something wrong, i can't keep attraction up or something.. i don't know. I need help
Fuck attraction....that is not something you should be looking for when hitting up girls.
You need to get used to this idea of 'gaming blind'....Girls i kind of all the same....They ALL act pretty randomly when they are out (so expect this)....but at the same time they are all down to fuck (so expect this too).
Seriously...you walk up to a chick and she may be like 'lets go fuck'.
You walk up to another chick and she may be like 'get the fuck away...you're an asshole etc blah'...this shouldn't effect you as you konw girls are predictably random and so you just keep enjoying your own company.
Watch the first part of this a few times
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I forgot to mention, but I only have been approaching girls who are at least an 8.5 in my book. I don't even bother with people lower...So i've been kind of pushing it
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Drunk as i'm typing this again
but basically i went over to this one bar. I was completely sober at this point and i approached this one three set. I introduced myself , but I dont think it really went anywhere, the girls just stood there. I didn't leave set and just stook there along with them. I think i mentioned that one of the girls had a weird way of drinking out of the bottle.
Then I was just stting, I jumped on top of stage and tried to dance with these two girls [put one behind me, one in front of me...i failed]
Started talking to this random girl, she was receptive, her friend looked at me and was like get away. I saw a friend of mine and got kind of distracted so my fault.. Could've plowed though it
I got a few drinks, went on over to another bar. Saw this random hot girl, she was a year older than me, i introduced myself and brought her over to the bar to get her a drink. Of course again, the biggest issue I have is keeping conversation going in this situtation.
In the outside area I approached this one girl, had a pretty good convo. Didn't bother pushing knowing that she had a boyfriend who graduated the past year. But I # closed her.
Went back inside did whatever. Was really drunk at this point
Went over to another bar. Saw this one chick doing some random movements. I start imitating her and whatnot, eventually I pull her over to the dance floor after imitating her start dancing up on her, but she ends up leaving rather quickly. Whatever. I see these 3 chicks and approach them asking why they were wearing the same shirt. Strick up a quick conversation ~40 seconds with them.
Some random dude opens me at one point, I start talking to some girl in the set for a bit. she jokes about somethign about lice or something. I end up leaving the set.
Leave the venue. End up at some fast food place. Start talking with somee girl visitng, have an okay conversation. Kind of broken up. I keep thinking about what to say.
Basically I suck at conversation. I noticed this and this doesn't seem to fucking go away. HELP ME OUT WITH TALKING TO PEOPLE!!!!
but basically i went over to this one bar. I was completely sober at this point and i approached this one three set. I introduced myself , but I dont think it really went anywhere, the girls just stood there. I didn't leave set and just stook there along with them. I think i mentioned that one of the girls had a weird way of drinking out of the bottle.
Then I was just stting, I jumped on top of stage and tried to dance with these two girls [put one behind me, one in front of me...i failed]
Started talking to this random girl, she was receptive, her friend looked at me and was like get away. I saw a friend of mine and got kind of distracted so my fault.. Could've plowed though it
I got a few drinks, went on over to another bar. Saw this random hot girl, she was a year older than me, i introduced myself and brought her over to the bar to get her a drink. Of course again, the biggest issue I have is keeping conversation going in this situtation.
In the outside area I approached this one girl, had a pretty good convo. Didn't bother pushing knowing that she had a boyfriend who graduated the past year. But I # closed her.
Went back inside did whatever. Was really drunk at this point
Went over to another bar. Saw this one chick doing some random movements. I start imitating her and whatnot, eventually I pull her over to the dance floor after imitating her start dancing up on her, but she ends up leaving rather quickly. Whatever. I see these 3 chicks and approach them asking why they were wearing the same shirt. Strick up a quick conversation ~40 seconds with them.
Some random dude opens me at one point, I start talking to some girl in the set for a bit. she jokes about somethign about lice or something. I end up leaving the set.
Leave the venue. End up at some fast food place. Start talking with somee girl visitng, have an okay conversation. Kind of broken up. I keep thinking about what to say.
Basically I suck at conversation. I noticed this and this doesn't seem to fucking go away. HELP ME OUT WITH TALKING TO PEOPLE!!!!
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Lately I feel I have leveled up from having convo stallouts after a minute or two, to being able to keep convo going pretty much indefinitely.
What made the click over for me was going from conversing from a point of "What is the right thing to say to move this forward?" to making things fun for me, which basically means expressing whatever my stream of consciousness is. Of course I integrate community stuff and keep it balanced between this and also flirty stuff.
flirty stuff: classic shit like ridiculous romantic date scenarios, roleplaying married couple, observations what I find cute about her looks, smell, personality whatever
generic convo: whatever comes up, vibing. That reminds me of this or that, I like this or that, things in the environment to point out
I think the event that made the click for me is I felt really off one night and was approaching but having BORING convos because I was super low neutral energy. Then I talked to some girl and she was playing with her straw A LOT and I started playing super intrigued about the straw just to entertain myself and play a game of how interesting can I make talking about her straw? The size of it, how there is someone out in the world ruling the straw game talking about their black model 557 straw shipments and shit... And that was like the highlight of our convo. I lit up, she lit up and was getting into it too. That fizzled after because I went back into boring mode... But I realized there that content of convo is NOT IMPORTANT if you just have fun talking about whatever and have fun thinking about such absurd stuff. You both know talking about a straw is ridiculous, that's why it's fun to get pumped up talking about something so dumb.
And I don't mean get gay style hyper excited... I think it's about totally eliminating the opposite vibe of... "I don't think this is good enough to talk about with you, and I'm gonna seem kind of down and bored with it because I know I'm going to get blown out if I talk about what kind of salad I like"
TLDR: Make sure your tonality is fun and dominant at all times, don't feel that ANY topic conversation is 'not cool enough', but make sure to physically escalate and calibrate from there
What made the click over for me was going from conversing from a point of "What is the right thing to say to move this forward?" to making things fun for me, which basically means expressing whatever my stream of consciousness is. Of course I integrate community stuff and keep it balanced between this and also flirty stuff.
flirty stuff: classic shit like ridiculous romantic date scenarios, roleplaying married couple, observations what I find cute about her looks, smell, personality whatever
generic convo: whatever comes up, vibing. That reminds me of this or that, I like this or that, things in the environment to point out
I think the event that made the click for me is I felt really off one night and was approaching but having BORING convos because I was super low neutral energy. Then I talked to some girl and she was playing with her straw A LOT and I started playing super intrigued about the straw just to entertain myself and play a game of how interesting can I make talking about her straw? The size of it, how there is someone out in the world ruling the straw game talking about their black model 557 straw shipments and shit... And that was like the highlight of our convo. I lit up, she lit up and was getting into it too. That fizzled after because I went back into boring mode... But I realized there that content of convo is NOT IMPORTANT if you just have fun talking about whatever and have fun thinking about such absurd stuff. You both know talking about a straw is ridiculous, that's why it's fun to get pumped up talking about something so dumb.
And I don't mean get gay style hyper excited... I think it's about totally eliminating the opposite vibe of... "I don't think this is good enough to talk about with you, and I'm gonna seem kind of down and bored with it because I know I'm going to get blown out if I talk about what kind of salad I like"
TLDR: Make sure your tonality is fun and dominant at all times, don't feel that ANY topic conversation is 'not cool enough', but make sure to physically escalate and calibrate from there
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i started off the night in total chode mode. I decided to text myself. Quit being such a fucking chode. a few minutes later it arrived on my phone, and I used that to get me to start finally approaching.
Overall of the 18 or so approaches. 15 of them were willing to talk to me.
1 gave me a half assed shrug thing
1 just walked away as I tried to grab her
1 left a second later because she was about to leave with her friends
With the remaining 15 approaches that worked out pretty well, about 10 of them led to some default chodeversation. 3 of them got touchy and whatnot, but still involved with stupid conversation. This stuff isn't that easy. But I was happy with just approaching. But, now I want more.
New sticking point: Getting myself to escalate beyond just touching or hugging. Also, dance floor game