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mr. technical breaking through barriers
JULY 21 - LR
so im in cardiff seeing some old friends, and i decide to come a day earlier so i can see this girl M that i met last month.
she a brunette, shoulder length hair, tight body (shes a dancer) 5"1' and has been badgering me to come see her ever since we met back in our home town. solid 6. maaaaybe a 7. i take her out to mocka lounge (real pretentious bar with waiter service that does sweeeeet cocktails) and we shoot the shit for a while. her voice kinda annoys me so i start mimicking it which makes her laugh and she starts to relax. tbh i couldnt care less but my main sticking point is closing/logistics so im determined to make this work tonight so ive got some reference points for the future
so ive been in vegas for the past two weeks, M wanted me to bring her back a casino chip. about an hour into our date, i say "oh, damn.... i just remembered, i left your casino chip in my hotel room...." hehehe plant the seed
we go on to another bar where this guy is playing acoustic guitar, real kind of chilled out atmosphere which i like, and we drink a little more
i love just chilling with girls with my arm around them, not saying a word and enjoying their feminine energy. after like a half hour more of drinking i tell her to hurry up and finish her drink and she complies as i take her hand and lead her out the club on some kind of premise (i dont even remember what)
we go back to my hotel room and i start ripping her clothes off and kissing her body and she says "oh wait, i thought we were gonna do X?" i reply "yeah sure we can do that" and just carry on taking her panties off as she laughs (thanks for those guys who posted that on the forums, shit works like a charm its so funny)
im sooo fucking jet lagged (just got back from Vegas) and not really in state. i think i might have projected that onto her, cos im getting a ton of resistance and after a certain amount of time we stop. M talks about going home and im like "no way you're staying here" but im just fkn exhausted and pass out hahahahahah
like a hour later (could have been longer, idk) i wake up and start the process again. shes semi-asleep as well at the start (WIERD) but she gets really into it. laid.
lessons:
PLOW THROUGH RESISTANCE
experimented with lots of way more dominant stuff (hair pulling, moving her around etc.) CAVEMAN that shit
LEAD LEAD LEAD LEAD
seed the pull
logistics is king
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gotta keep working on logistics its my main sticking point
so im in cardiff seeing some old friends, and i decide to come a day earlier so i can see this girl M that i met last month.
she a brunette, shoulder length hair, tight body (shes a dancer) 5"1' and has been badgering me to come see her ever since we met back in our home town. solid 6. maaaaybe a 7. i take her out to mocka lounge (real pretentious bar with waiter service that does sweeeeet cocktails) and we shoot the shit for a while. her voice kinda annoys me so i start mimicking it which makes her laugh and she starts to relax. tbh i couldnt care less but my main sticking point is closing/logistics so im determined to make this work tonight so ive got some reference points for the future
so ive been in vegas for the past two weeks, M wanted me to bring her back a casino chip. about an hour into our date, i say "oh, damn.... i just remembered, i left your casino chip in my hotel room...." hehehe plant the seed
we go on to another bar where this guy is playing acoustic guitar, real kind of chilled out atmosphere which i like, and we drink a little more
i love just chilling with girls with my arm around them, not saying a word and enjoying their feminine energy. after like a half hour more of drinking i tell her to hurry up and finish her drink and she complies as i take her hand and lead her out the club on some kind of premise (i dont even remember what)
we go back to my hotel room and i start ripping her clothes off and kissing her body and she says "oh wait, i thought we were gonna do X?" i reply "yeah sure we can do that" and just carry on taking her panties off as she laughs (thanks for those guys who posted that on the forums, shit works like a charm its so funny)
im sooo fucking jet lagged (just got back from Vegas) and not really in state. i think i might have projected that onto her, cos im getting a ton of resistance and after a certain amount of time we stop. M talks about going home and im like "no way you're staying here" but im just fkn exhausted and pass out hahahahahah
like a hour later (could have been longer, idk) i wake up and start the process again. shes semi-asleep as well at the start (WIERD) but she gets really into it. laid.
lessons:
PLOW THROUGH RESISTANCE
experimented with lots of way more dominant stuff (hair pulling, moving her around etc.) CAVEMAN that shit
LEAD LEAD LEAD LEAD
seed the pull
logistics is king
-------
gotta keep working on logistics its my main sticking point
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
read a post about reluctance to apporach after being successful. ego protection or some shit. resonated with me HARDCORE. i had this the other day where i went on a date and fooled around in the chicks car at the end of it (didnt pull)
i get a text about 12.30 the same night from my buddy who says "Lebron is at lavo, lets go", i go and just dont feel like approaching even though there are a like a bazillion hot girls at this joint
its like my body was saying "you've done your work for tonight, well done, now just chill." NO. NO, DAMMIT. i was paralysed all night (basking in my glory of the successful date? idk) dont listen to the chode ego. just approach. was so freakin ashamed of myself
edit: this happened again this afternoon after last nights lay. siiiiighhhhhhh gotta break past this
also bootcamp report will finally come soon, about time i wrote this stuff up. ozzie is a king with light sabre eye contact, what a baaaaaad muddafucha
i get a text about 12.30 the same night from my buddy who says "Lebron is at lavo, lets go", i go and just dont feel like approaching even though there are a like a bazillion hot girls at this joint
its like my body was saying "you've done your work for tonight, well done, now just chill." NO. NO, DAMMIT. i was paralysed all night (basking in my glory of the successful date? idk) dont listen to the chode ego. just approach. was so freakin ashamed of myself
edit: this happened again this afternoon after last nights lay. siiiiighhhhhhh gotta break past this
also bootcamp report will finally come soon, about time i wrote this stuff up. ozzie is a king with light sabre eye contact, what a baaaaaad muddafucha
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
fri july 22nd
stag night with a bunch of my old uni buddies in cardiff. not too much to report, got absurdly drunk and just hung out with the guys
dont think i made many approaches, but one sticks out from the end of the night; probably the hottest chick i ever cold approached, long brown hair, 5'10", slim, gorgeous as hell. i think i opened purely with eye contct and a smile, went in HARD. then i dragged her onto the dancefloor and we danced. (me basically leading her and pulling her around like a ragdoll) FULL BELIEF AND COMMITTMENT and she was really into it, i cant believe how well it went (reminds me of ozzie "its not gonna work!" hahaha) she was with a reasonable size group including a few guys and i was just blowing them out so easily every time i pulled her in. great reference experience.
unfortunately, i lost her because i kept calling her Cassie and her name was Chelsea, we got out of the club and i apologised... and after that i dont think i went in as hard? she wouldnt give me her number saying "i dont know what it is/i dont have a phone" and other bullshit excuses, i couldnt seperate her from her friends and i lost her. probably should have tried to isolate and then escalate but i was f drunk and wasnt thinking clearly
lessons:
- smoke shows are into me. i just need to believe.
- unapologetic
- LISTEN to what she has to say
- plow hard/logistics/close HARDER.
goal:
get waaaay more numbers. not number closing enough. will post detailed goals later
stag night with a bunch of my old uni buddies in cardiff. not too much to report, got absurdly drunk and just hung out with the guys
dont think i made many approaches, but one sticks out from the end of the night; probably the hottest chick i ever cold approached, long brown hair, 5'10", slim, gorgeous as hell. i think i opened purely with eye contct and a smile, went in HARD. then i dragged her onto the dancefloor and we danced. (me basically leading her and pulling her around like a ragdoll) FULL BELIEF AND COMMITTMENT and she was really into it, i cant believe how well it went (reminds me of ozzie "its not gonna work!" hahaha) she was with a reasonable size group including a few guys and i was just blowing them out so easily every time i pulled her in. great reference experience.
unfortunately, i lost her because i kept calling her Cassie and her name was Chelsea, we got out of the club and i apologised... and after that i dont think i went in as hard? she wouldnt give me her number saying "i dont know what it is/i dont have a phone" and other bullshit excuses, i couldnt seperate her from her friends and i lost her. probably should have tried to isolate and then escalate but i was f drunk and wasnt thinking clearly
lessons:
- smoke shows are into me. i just need to believe.
- unapologetic
- LISTEN to what she has to say
- plow hard/logistics/close HARDER.
goal:
get waaaay more numbers. not number closing enough. will post detailed goals later
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
my target is to become a CLOSING MACHINE
- NUMBERS
- LAYS
- DAY 2s
i will make out less in clubs. for too long i was "that makeout guy". no more. gotta apply this in all areas of life, i wanna be a terrier during the day and a beast during the night
just bought Insanity Fitness. after 3 weeks in Vegas i feel sluggish and unfit. fit=high energy levels=taking action. i will commit to 3 nights out a week. SKO.
- NUMBERS
- LAYS
- DAY 2s
i will make out less in clubs. for too long i was "that makeout guy". no more. gotta apply this in all areas of life, i wanna be a terrier during the day and a beast during the night
just bought Insanity Fitness. after 3 weeks in Vegas i feel sluggish and unfit. fit=high energy levels=taking action. i will commit to 3 nights out a week. SKO.
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
my only criteria for success is that i approach. saw two solid 7s today out and about, and choded out on both approaches. fuuuuuuuuuck
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/day-game-and-solid-interactions
read. digest. take action. repeat.
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/day-game-and-solid-interactions
read. digest. take action. repeat.
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
out tonight at the usual spot. hardly had anything to drink, which is fairly redic for me
played the 30 second game with a few buddies, did a bunch of approaches but as many as i would like. (7 maybe? not including social circle) 1 k close, and we were dancing later in in the night but she ejected as i was dancing w/ another chick at the same time (who was nowhere near as hot). at the time i thought "damn,,,,,,, she wasnt feeling it" but come to think of it, i think she was quite young and couldnt cope with competition she prob liked me and i needed to qualify her more
most interactions did not go well tonight. try hard sober game. i need to chill.
played the 30 second game with a few buddies, did a bunch of approaches but as many as i would like. (7 maybe? not including social circle) 1 k close, and we were dancing later in in the night but she ejected as i was dancing w/ another chick at the same time (who was nowhere near as hot). at the time i thought "damn,,,,,,, she wasnt feeling it" but come to think of it, i think she was quite young and couldnt cope with competition she prob liked me and i needed to qualify her more
most interactions did not go well tonight. try hard sober game. i need to chill.
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
eh, i just realised how damn negative my post was last night. or as ozzie would put it, "disqualifying the positive"
i was sober. i was tired, i wasnt in "state". yet i still approached. thats progress.
and i'm going out again tomorrow, on my own if i have to. time to break through more barriers.
i was sober. i was tired, i wasnt in "state". yet i still approached. thats progress.
and i'm going out again tomorrow, on my own if i have to. time to break through more barriers.
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
friday
fri night, went out with a few mates. wasnt planning on drinking... ended up having a massive night out
bit of social circle game with a hot 30 year old bird from australia, danced with her for a while and she was pretty banging. did a couple of "dancefloor challenges" - really hard sets designed to push myself, none of them hooked. did a couple easier cold approaches. the two that i remember (i was f drunk):
1. as soon as i enter the club i claw the girl walking past me. we vibe, i tease her a little, it goes ok for a couplemins then she goes out for a smoke and we part ways. i treated as a "warm up"
2. hot welsh girl. shes sitting at the side of the dancefloor with her mate. im literally heading off the dancefloor ready to leave the club when i see her. ONE MORE SET. open with claw and BR "who are you?" (my staple for the night), i tell her i lived in wales for 4 years and she falls in love. instant number close. dance. i go for make out but get the cheek. like 4 times. then i leave cos im f knackered (WEAK SAUCE)
saturday
completely sober night out, probably for the first time in my life (apart from bootcamp). certainly for as long as i can remember. do a couple approaches. play the "claw game" and "30 second game"
claw game is this: claw your buddy. all buddies have to claw someone who is not already clawed in the group. last person to perform the claw has to go claw a stranger. i lose a round and go claw an absolute hottie. i should have stayed in cos it hooked, but i suck gaming infront of my buddies so i eject. for like the next 15 mins i see her giving me sly looks. lol im so weak.
make a few new social circle female friends. drunk chick from social circle is all over me. shes a 5 at best. not happening. i reject in a friendly non verbal manner. a couple other approaches, nothing really hooks. get amogged hard by a buddie of mine when i approach a vague acquantance. he comes up and says, "no, im pulling this chick tonight" and takes her away. im really impressed, i never knew he had game like that.
being sober was weird tonight. its gonna take me a while to get used to not relying on the dreaded beer-crutch but i think im gonna stick with it. had a stinking hangover and been in a shit mood all today, and i suffered with poor performance tonight. a little bit of avoidance tonight aswell. i gotta get past this. also my mates do not help AT ALL when im mackin on chicks. they are either complete chodes or haters. i do waaaaaaay better when i go off on my own in the club and do my thing. only my absolute best buddy "gets it", he an absolute champion but he is being held back by his LTR sighhhhh
got told "youre realy intense" tonight. maybe i have to chill out a bit more with my EC? is there such a thing as too much intent?
my text to welsh today: "safe trip back to manchester today K. and dont have too many naughty thoughts about me. behave yourself" no response.....
fri night, went out with a few mates. wasnt planning on drinking... ended up having a massive night out
bit of social circle game with a hot 30 year old bird from australia, danced with her for a while and she was pretty banging. did a couple of "dancefloor challenges" - really hard sets designed to push myself, none of them hooked. did a couple easier cold approaches. the two that i remember (i was f drunk):
1. as soon as i enter the club i claw the girl walking past me. we vibe, i tease her a little, it goes ok for a couplemins then she goes out for a smoke and we part ways. i treated as a "warm up"
2. hot welsh girl. shes sitting at the side of the dancefloor with her mate. im literally heading off the dancefloor ready to leave the club when i see her. ONE MORE SET. open with claw and BR "who are you?" (my staple for the night), i tell her i lived in wales for 4 years and she falls in love. instant number close. dance. i go for make out but get the cheek. like 4 times. then i leave cos im f knackered (WEAK SAUCE)
saturday
completely sober night out, probably for the first time in my life (apart from bootcamp). certainly for as long as i can remember. do a couple approaches. play the "claw game" and "30 second game"
claw game is this: claw your buddy. all buddies have to claw someone who is not already clawed in the group. last person to perform the claw has to go claw a stranger. i lose a round and go claw an absolute hottie. i should have stayed in cos it hooked, but i suck gaming infront of my buddies so i eject. for like the next 15 mins i see her giving me sly looks. lol im so weak.
make a few new social circle female friends. drunk chick from social circle is all over me. shes a 5 at best. not happening. i reject in a friendly non verbal manner. a couple other approaches, nothing really hooks. get amogged hard by a buddie of mine when i approach a vague acquantance. he comes up and says, "no, im pulling this chick tonight" and takes her away. im really impressed, i never knew he had game like that.
being sober was weird tonight. its gonna take me a while to get used to not relying on the dreaded beer-crutch but i think im gonna stick with it. had a stinking hangover and been in a shit mood all today, and i suffered with poor performance tonight. a little bit of avoidance tonight aswell. i gotta get past this. also my mates do not help AT ALL when im mackin on chicks. they are either complete chodes or haters. i do waaaaaaay better when i go off on my own in the club and do my thing. only my absolute best buddy "gets it", he an absolute champion but he is being held back by his LTR sighhhhh
got told "youre realy intense" tonight. maybe i have to chill out a bit more with my EC? is there such a thing as too much intent?
my text to welsh today: "safe trip back to manchester today K. and dont have too many naughty thoughts about me. behave yourself" no response.....
__________________
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and I missed. I'VE FAILED OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN MY LIFE. AND THAT IS WHY I SUCCEED" - m. jordan
mr.technical
Junior Member
Join Date: 07/13/2010 | Posts: 16
post bootcamp i have wavered, not making the strides forward that i should have (Ozzie, you were right hahah)
i need to get things down in writing so can re-assess where im at, and make new goals.
goals from post BC for the month of may (hahahah what a late bear):
- out 3 nights a week
- 10 make outs
- 3 lays
- GF
results:
fail.
im averaging roughly 1 lay a month for the year of 2011, and generally getting between 5s and 7s (which is waaaaaay better than the old me). this is not good enough, and i need to be pushing myself more
TIME TO STEP UP.