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October 21st, 2014
If You Feel Guilty About Being A Pickup Artist...
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Massive

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Join Date: 02/21/2010 | Posts: 253

...Don't even sweat it homie.

The average woman is 10X, no 100X more conniving than the most underhanded, slimiest pickup sleazeball on the planet.

I've had a pregnant woman ask me on fri/sat dates, I've had girls try to make out with me in the middle of a date with another man (with said dude standing right behind her), married girls give me their contact info without my asking right in front of their husbands, I've had girls abandon their boyfriends at 2 AM at a club to go home with me, among numerous other examples.

Women have no loyalty whatsoever, and openly cheat RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR BOYFRIENDS AND HUSBANDS. THEY LIE OPENLY AND ENCOURAGE THEIR GIRLFRIENDS TO DO SO.

I'm a fairly experienced player, but the hypocrisy, lies and cheating of women seems to continually escalate to another level when I thought it was impossible. They will profess their love, makeout with their lover, then drop him a second later when they see someone better.

Anyway, the point is, there is NO AMOUNT OF CHEATING, DUPLICITY OR CONNIVING YOU CAN DO AS A TRAINED PICKUP ARTIST WHICH CAN MATCH THE SHEER AMORALITY OF A WOMAN.
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BAWLS

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Join Date: 02/27/2008 | Posts: 2591

Have you seen BlueprintDecoded where Tyler said the worst persona is that of a Pickup Artist.
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Massive

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Join Date: 02/21/2010 | Posts: 253

The experiences I have tell me that any reasonably attractive girl is not faithful, the instant she sees a better option.
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jlaix

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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 8294

 so many things that could be said on this subject but I think this old axiom sums it up best:

"We don't attract what we want, we attract what we are"

I'm very conflicted on this myself but ultimately, women's behavior should be irrelevant when it comes to having any sort of bearing on how I decide to comport myself. 
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sh0t

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Join Date: 11/09/2006 | Posts: 91

 I totally disagree with that line. As a pickup artist, you will attract ALL kinds of women, from nice to evil. Eventually you have to be very careful you don't leave a trail of broken hearts everywhere you go.

I don't think most women are really evil, they don't have to be. Women don't really have to lie, most times they don't. Most times they just flake on you, blow you out, talk about "not being ready", etc. All of it can be true and gets the job done. Attractive women have usually had plenty of practice telling guys "not interested", so they won't usually have a problem with it.

Women are very good at keeping their options open in ways that don't involve lying, because men will tolerate so much more. A girl might say "I can't" for 3 weeks in a row, but the guy will still ask her out. She's being pretty blunt. Next time she's bored, she might say yes, but won't make any promises of what that date means. 

Pickup can make you a bit of a cynic, where you see women doing all sorts of dirty things, but that's usually at the beginning of your career(as those women are less of a hassle to pickup). As the years roll by, you will encounter many more types. Ten years ago, I was dating mostly college girls and cougars. Inbetween, I've dated many women looking for marriage, professionals, etc. That middle area begins to expand.

You'll notice that most guys that start having success in the game, they are usually dating women we can deem "losers". Girls with weak jobs, if they have one, college girls, party girls, etc. The lawyers and such don't come till later on, if ever
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Magi

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Join Date: 01/07/2011 | Posts: 93

 I agree with the OP.  Even the girls you think are "angels" can be completely amoral when it comes to men.  The hotter they are the more they have learned to get away with things when dealing with men.  A smile, wink, flash of some cleavage can go along way in getting what you want.

I got destroyed by a girl like that, so hot my reasoning went out the door.  I'm not hating, its the territory and I wouldn't change it if I could.  
Just venting because this post struck a personal chord with me.

I learned a good lesson from that "angel", never let your guard down completely and do NOT ignore the red flags.  

Nothing new to most of you guys..
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jlaix

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 jesus christ all i get these days is lawyers, doctors and fuckin scientists. Where have all my googly-eyed party sluts gone?
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Cupcakes

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I don't like this "women are ALL CHEATERS!!!!" stuff. Maybe if they're in a shit relationship with a chode or a boring relationship, but it's possible to have a loyal woman. You can't paint 100% of them with the Cheater Brush.
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Magi

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 Come to the University of Florida.  I'll gladly host you.  That is if you like young, party sluts.  

I'll throw in tacos to make the deal more enticing (all you can eat my friends, all you can fucking EAT!)
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Magi

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jlaix wrote:
 jesus christ all i get these days is lawyers, doctors and fuckin scientists. Where have all my googly-eyed party sluts gone?
Come to the university of florida..  I'd be glad to host you.  This is if you like young party sluts.

I'll throw in tacos to sweeten the deal.  (all you can eat, all you can fucking EAT!!)
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Coy02

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Join Date: 06/09/2011 | Posts: 121

Massive wrote:
...Don't even sweat it homie.

The average woman is 10X, no 100X more conniving than the most underhanded, slimiest pickup sleazeball on the planet.

I've had a pregnant woman ask me on fri/sat dates, I've had girls try to make out with me in the middle of a date with another man (with said dude standing right behind her), married girls give me their contact info without my asking right in front of their husbands, I've had girls abandon their boyfriends at 2 AM at a club to go home with me, among numerous other examples.

Women have no loyalty whatsoever, and openly cheat RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR BOYFRIENDS AND HUSBANDS. THEY LIE OPENLY AND ENCOURAGE THEIR GIRLFRIENDS TO DO SO.

I'm a fairly experienced player, but the hypocrisy, lies and cheating of women seems to continually escalate to another level when I thought it was impossible. They will profess their love, makeout with their lover, then drop him a second later when they see someone better.

Anyway, the point is, there is NO AMOUNT OF CHEATING, DUPLICITY OR CONNIVING YOU CAN DO AS A TRAINED PICKUP ARTIST WHICH CAN MATCH THE SHEER AMORALITY OF A WOMAN.
Interesting :)

I myself get off on the so called "amorality" of all of this, because it proves to me that I'm right and always have been :)

The reason why I myself became a player (and will be till the day I die) is because even as a little kid I sensed that marriage, relationships
and stuff like that is bullshit. I always knew that women weren't meant to be "kept" and that nobody is really "yours". 

The title of "boyfriend" or "husband" carries to me ZERO weight. It's like the gold star you get in kindergarten, you think it's special but it's
actually meaningless.

Hypocrisy from women, their lies and their cheating can only hurts because it proves how unspecial you truly are. You aren't the one
and only, one and only never existed and never will.

As for the "average woman" being more conniving than the most underhanded PUA...who knows man. I don't think about these things
because personally it doesn't do much to help me in anyway. I just know people in general are selfish and only do what they think they
can get away with. Thats it.
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