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December 3rd, 2016
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AsianRSD

AsianRSD

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 I know i might come off whiny/bitchy when i post here. Keep in mind, i've only been gaming for 6 months. I don't know if anyone got this problem but hear me out

day game is frustrating... why the hell do I get so many BF objections during day game. When I come up to a woman, i eventually get the BF objection. When she happens to be single, i get her number only for her to flake out on me.

I know i'm new to all this, but this has been the biggest sticking point I have. I don't get why women tell me they have a boyfriend, or why women flake out on me. ANd yes, i've tried solid numbers before(where I would talk to a women for x amount of minutes, qualify her an x amount of times, and build rapport. STILL, women flake out on me.

It seems as if I only get 2 results during day game

1. BF objections
2. flaky number

of the times I wouldn't get the BF objection and the women didn't flake out on me, it's a VERY VERY small %

PS. i only talk to hotties. I live in LA area and only talk to thin hot white chicks. It seems as if majority of the hotties here are taken. 

anyone else have this problem? anyone have any tips for this situation?

here's my solution. LOWER my standards and approach average/below average looking girls, instead of the thin hot girls.  Maybe my luck will change

 PS. i'm only 20, i don't turn 21 until september, so i really can't say much about night game. But when it comes to Day game, i'm becoming frustrated.

/end of rant
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AsianRSD

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aesthetics wrote:
plough regardless of the bf excuse. Usually, its a lie.
i don't think it is

i've facebook closed some chicks who claimed they had a BF, and it said they are in a relationship
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Kal0051

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 Lots of girls have boyfriends. Almost every girl I know has a boyfriend (only know 2 single girls). So yeah, high possibility that it's not a lie. Also in my experience most girls don't break up with a guy til they have a new guy, their self worth is determined by whether or not they have a bf. So ignore the bf comment and plough. But this is just my limited personal experience.
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i haven't started day game...yet. But can you give an example of how an interaction goes? How do you approach? What do you say? What she responds? Do you touch her? Explain in detail. Maybe it will give you an ideea of what the problem might be and also other guys(me) can learn from your mistakes.
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BAWLS

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On BF, review my post: http://www.rsdnation.com/comment_redirect/743365. In short, you are coming off as a boyfriend 'applicant' which then triggers (a) the i-got-a-boyfriend automatic response regardless of whether she's attracted or not or (b) a boyfriend-shit test which is perhaps the number 1 congruence test women throw out. You can keep doing that and there are ways around it. OR review my post above as it will help you avoid / prevent this situation altogether, saving you time and frustration and help you move on to more exciting part of the game.

On Flakes, why are you asking for the number? Who told you this is the only way to close? (Review Hoobie in Transformation) Number close is so generic that even guys who've never heard of pickup do number close. Its too common and flakes are at an all time high because not only guys outside the pickup world use it, but the guys in the pickup world are full of men like you who are fixated with the number close. I'm guessing here you're even approaching for the sake of the number as if that's the goal, to get the number itself, and not the girl. "Hi, you're cute, I had to meet you.......(minutes later) anyway can I have your number?"

The best way to avoid flakes is to let go of this idea of a "number close". Get it after sex if you want. These are your alternatives to the number close from list of low-risk-low-reward to 'high-risk' (or so you think) high-reward.

1) Email, Facebook
2. Number close - call/text on the spot.
3) Instant date / change venues
4) Invite to a party / social event (number sharing becomes expected "of course, its 555-555-5555")
5) Set up a day 2 (getting a number becomes an afterthought)
6) Casual, undefined (Her: "We should hangout sometime" You: "Yeah blah blah blah" hand in the phone as you're talking)
7) Same day / same night lay (After #3 above, you take her home to check out something, or after night game, just take her home)

There is one on this list that guarantees no flake at all. Can you guess it? Tick tock tick tock.
7) Same day / same night lay 
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day game is the shit
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TYPE UP UR ENTIRE INTERACTION instead of just complaining about your inabilities to do something. No one knows what the fuck you're doing to tell you what you're doing wrong.
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AsianRSD

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BAWLS wrote:
On BF, review my post: http://www.rsdnation.com/comment_redirect/743365. In short, you are coming off as a boyfriend 'applicant' which then triggers (a) the i-got-a-boyfriend automatic response regardless of whether she's attracted or not or (b) a boyfriend-shit test which is perhaps the number 1 congruence test women throw out. You can keep doing that and there are ways around it. OR review my post above as it will help you avoid / prevent this situation altogether, saving you time and frustration and help you move on to more exciting part of the game.

On Flakes, why are you asking for the number? Who told you this is the only way to close? (Review Hoobie in Transformation) Number close is so generic that even guys who've never heard of pickup do number close. Its too common and flakes are at an all time high because not only guys outside the pickup world use it, but the guys in the pickup world are full of men like you who are fixated with the number close. I'm guessing here you're even approaching for the sake of the number as if that's the goal, to get the number itself, and not the girl. "Hi, you're cute, I had to meet you.......(minutes later) anyway can I have your number?"

The best way to avoid flakes is to let go of this idea of a "number close". Get it after sex if you want. These are your alternatives to the number close from list of low-risk-low-reward to 'high-risk' (or so you think) high-reward.

1) Email, Facebook
2. Number close - call/text on the spot.
3) Instant date / change venues
4) Invite to a party / social event (number sharing becomes expected "of course, its 555-555-5555")
5) Set up a day 2 (getting a number becomes an afterthought)
6) Casual, undefined (Her: "We should hangout sometime" You: "Yeah blah blah blah" hand in the phone as you're talking)
7) Same day / same night lay (After #3 above, you take her home to check out something, or after night game, just take her home)

There is one on this list that guarantees no flake at all. Can you guess it? Tick tock tick tock.
7) Same day / same night lay 




bawls, you do have a good point here. BUt most of what you say are easier said than done.

Most people have stuff to do during the day time. Whether they are on break from work or have school. It must take a lot of screening and compliance to get a same day lay or an instant date.  

I do get what you are saying, there are alternatives to just getting her number. But why the fuck do I get so many BF objections, any signs of showing intent, I get the BF objection. In my experience, most of the hot girls I approach probably have a boyfriend, 9x out of 10 most hot girls in-fact have a boyfriend. (i've confirmed this because of the 20+ chicks i've facebook closed, most of them in-fact did have a BF).

With facebook, i've done many facebook closes but most of the time it never goes anywhere. If i meet a hot chick and i get her facebook, she probably has 500+ friends and have 15+ dudes who try to get at her. I know this friend of mine who goes to USC(hot chick), whenever i hang out with her, she has like 10 dudes sending her messages on facebook. 

again, i like the same day lay idea and instant dates idea. Still, i think imust approach hundreds and thousands of girls to get 1 same day lay. But yeah, thx for the advice on this, i guess i have to accept the fact that most chicks i meet during day game have boyfriends and plow anyway. it goes against my morals though(not sarging girls with boyfriends). Fact of the matter is, MOST HOT CHICKS do have a man in her life.

*sigh* i'm learning every day. I thought picking up chicks was gonna be easy. after approaching them and seeing patterns, all i get is Flakey numbers or BF objections. I'm starting to think pickup is a numbers game and luck.
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AsianRSD

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Staliv wrote:
i haven't started day game...yet. But can you give an example of how an interaction goes? How do you approach? What do you say? What she responds? Do you touch her? Explain in detail. Maybe it will give you an ideea of what the problem might be and also other guys(me) can learn from your mistakes.
well i'm sorta a nice genuine guy. most fo the girls I approach is direct "hello, saw you from other here, and had to come meet you". Most of the time, girls will be polite and start a conversation with me. Sometimes I get blown out. MOST OF THE TIME I GET THE BF OBJECTION. sometimes when she doesn't have a BF or if the girl likes me, I get her number to only never see her again...

i don't think it's a problem staliv, it's just the way it is. When a girl is taken, it's out of my control and I don't think it was me who fucked it up, but the outside variables. After seeing patterns of meeting chicks during the day time, i just get BF objections and flaky numbers.

PS. i meet chicks at college campuses/beach/coffee shops

maybe i should try night game more, my friend told me that most chicks at night time are single
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Dude, I think your problem is you are talking too much ( I might be worng).
What I tell you is . bring sex to the table.
Say you like her coz you want to get kinky with her.

even some girls might like to idea of sex even if they have a boyfriend.

and don't think night game is so easy.

alcholhol, AMOGS, shields, Fat friends, groups, BF objections ,boucers, lot of "FUCK OFF" s. 
that shit is crazy.
I think BF objections in DAY game is a small price to pay compared to shit that goes down in night time.


my advices,
Hey I think you are so cute I had to say hi,
you know what I think you got nice pair of boobs, that turns me on so much.
...
...
Give me your number so we could hookup later...


take your convo somewere along those lines, tell what you are actually feeling at the time.
and bring sex to the table.

also/

go on Instant date, coffee..or someshit like that.

try this tomorrow and report back.

and since you are bringing everything to the table you won;t have to spend a 20 mins on a flake, 5mins max will do , and you will be able to open more sets,.
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 are you having fun during the day?
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