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October 17th, 2017
what makes girls choose YOU?/perceive you as high value? whats the missing piece in my game?
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Be.Cool

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Join Date: 07/04/2010 | Posts: 711

please try to be as concrete as possible.

I dont understand: girls dig me, they are attracted, but it never leads to a close.

I mean I got the basics down, I get good responses.

But they dont want to fuck. why?


I have fun, am sexual, non needy, intent, abundance, (look good too), make them laugh, assertive...

I dont really know what to write here, bcause I´m confused..

I think I dont come off as high value enough.

any help?
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throttlecock69

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Join Date: 07/07/2011 | Posts: 10

Are you initiating kino, and physically touching them? Dive right into the makeout on a highpoint.
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throttlecock69

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Actually if you get transformations, or ozzys book on kino that should help you out alot. If you having a feeling you will lose her after touching her/making out then you are attached to the outcome, which is a scarcity mentality. It's kind of like an invisible road block but ozzy nails it on the head.
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Sonnie

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Lol. It's nothing to do with coming off high value enough.

Not caring = High value.

So if you just stop caring about this shit, you'll become high value. Also, you can't care anymore.

Did I mention you can't care? Well you can't. Stop caring.

LEAD LEAD LEAD LEAD LEAD.
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buyer/seller frame...lalal Im practicing on this too. Dont worry though will come in time..
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Be.Cool

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dude, I dont care at all (really do, no ego) I am constantly leading, adn I am being physical all the time and comfortable with it.

its not that they dont like me, they dont want to fuck me.

Sonnie wrote:

Not caring = High value.

disagree. there is more to it. high value people have that certain vibe, I dont really have.
I am completely outcoem independant, and on a good day I feel like the fuckin shit, like brad in his videos.

still, no closes.... whats the deal?
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scottsdale

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you're probably lacking the "they choose you" part. Pretty much everytime i get laid its because the girl chooses me and GAMES ME.

Its like instead of a one man show where I'm doing all the moves and making it all happen... Its a two man show where we are both moving in unison.

Sex can't happen unless you BOTH want it to happen.

So stop trying to pull these girls, just go and hang out with them and let it unfold naturally, where you both choose each other.

....And as a bonus tip, be more aroused. You cant just be THINKING you want to get laid, or you want this girl. You got to really be FEELING it that you want her. Your intent should not be mental more so as it should be a physical intent..... with your boner.
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Sonnie

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mr.cool wrote:
dude, I dont care at all (really do, no ego) I am constantly leading, adn I am being physical all the time and comfortable with it.

its not that they dont like me, they dont want to fuck me.

Sonnie wrote:

Not caring = High value.

disagree. there is more to it. high value people have that certain vibe, I dont really have.
I am completely outcoem independant, and on a good day I feel like the fuckin shit, like brad in his videos.

still, no closes.... whats the deal?

Why do you think you need to have that high a value to fuck these girls though? It's not a value issue. If they're talking to you, then you have some kind
of value to them. 

Thats not the point, how many times are you trying to kiss close? How persistent are you? Are you discussing fucking with them, like "hey girl I want to
have sex with you" or are you leading them physically or w/e else?

Do you try to kiss them and ease back if they don't let you and continue talking as if nothing happened, and then try again later on in a few minutes...how are you
trying to close? You won't always get it the first try you know.

IDK how you're doing it man, be more specific.
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VisionsDivine wrote:
 


hahahaha wtf was that? awesome.
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Sonnie

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scottsdale wrote:
you're probably lacking the "they choose you" part. Pretty much everytime i get laid its because the girl chooses me and GAMES ME.

Its like instead of a one man show where I'm doing all the moves and making it all happen... Its a two man show where we are both moving in unison.

Sex can't happen unless you BOTH want it to happen.

I disagree, many times, yes it's important for her to be moving in unison with you...but a lot of times you'll have to make ALL the moves because thats
just what the situation requires. If she doesn't usually fuck guys who look like you or w/e and she still wants it...she's not just going to make it all easy for
you. She's still in front of your face, then it's on. No matter what she says, it's on. If she doesn't leave...it's on. If I'm escalating on a girl and she's still
saying no, and she's backing up and being all pushing away and not cooperating with me...but she's still infront of my face conversating with me...is
that reason to walk away? Nah bro. I mean, your experience is different from mine, who knows what you ran into...but for me...cooperation is a beautful
thing, but unless you're Brad Pitt it's not always going to be there. "If I'm going to fuck this ugly ass dude, he better be worth it". As much looks as you
lack, is what you have to make up in being a man.

I've had girls who give NO absoultey NO indicators of interest. No clue that would betray interest in me whatsoever...and had I been wating for cooperation
and investment then I would have never gotten laid with them. Some of the best sex has been with such girls.
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Yeah thats true, I mean I'm pretty sure I usually make all the moves.... but even then, the girl at some point has to choose you.

But I give you alot of credit on your post Sonnie, cause it is true, if she is there in front of you and hanging around, its on.
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