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May 19th, 2013
How the fuck do you 'watch the thinker'
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PatrickBateman17

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I want to get into Tolle because I think it can benefit me. however I listened to the start of his audio and it has put me way inside my head.

He talks about 'watching the thinker' in which you essentially listen to your thoughts without judging them or identifying with them.

I went out tonight and I was so inside my head with thoughts, I kept thinking about not identifying with thoughts and it just made me identify with them even more...I couldn't stop thinking about them.

As a person who is judgemental and identifies with their thoughts on a daily basis, how do you get past judging your thoughts if you judge them all the time?

Maybe I'm over complicating this but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do.

Thanks
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 I haven't read any Tolle but I am thinking the concept is to let thoughts pass through your mind without hanging on them. It is hard or impossible to stop having thoughts, so you just have to use that exercise to help distance yourself from letting thoughts about this and that affect your emotions. And as applied to pickup it means when you go out you just flow because you are not holding onto any thoughts and instead you are just in the moment and ACTING, and not getting thrown off by shit you might otherwise overanalyze or dwell on. 

Meditation and Tolling is cool (though I haven't tolled out yet). Meditation and ruminating on inner game and a clear mind has helped me out, but I think it is meant to be used as a tool to clear you mind/root you/destress your overall average state instead of something you try to summon to unleash beastmode at the club or some shit. When you're out, do whatever it takes to get your approaches started and maybe the meditative tolling of the day/weeks/months will carry over into your interactions and make you a chiller more centered dude as a supplement to game.
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Both bother with any of that crap, its just gonna jam you up even more
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When Im out, I think about getting laid
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Mate, like I said in your previous thread, go pull SMOKE SHOWs & make your millions.

Ecky is for faggots.
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ambiguity wrote:
Mate, like I said in your previous thread, go pull SMOKE SHOWs & make your millions.

Ecky is for faggots.
dont listen to homy.  

anyways, ur in ur head. approx 30 mins of meditation gets me to the point of total silence and it seems like someone jsut turned down the noise. The noise was the incessant stream of thoughts that u experienced. While meditating is not done to get u laid it is certainly done to quiet ur mind. When u are finally breathing normally and can feel ur energy u will notice how much mroe relaxed u are. Meditating just gets u more relaxed. Watching the thinker is easier when u practice becoming more present. At first I was able to recognize the part of me thinking away but couldnt do nothign about it. But through various practises I am at a point where I will be going about my day adn will sometimes noticed myself just thinking or talkin to myself in my head. That is what eckhart  means by wathcin the thinker. When i observe my self thinkking or talkin to myt self I am watchin the "thinker". As soon as i catch myself talkin to myself I am more aware and present. 

Again. Disregard ambiguity because although he means well and has a point. He doesnt understand ur dilemma and hence does nto have the ability to see things from ur persepective.
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OMAR wrote:

ambiguity wrote:
Mate, like I said in your previous thread, go pull SMOKE SHOWs & make your millions.

Ecky is for faggots.
dont listen to homy.  

anyways, ur in ur head. approx 30 mins of meditation gets me to the point of total silence and it seems like someone jsut turned down the noise. The noise was the incessant stream of thoughts that u experienced. While meditating is not done to get u laid it is certainly done to quiet ur mind. When u are finally breathing normally and can feel ur energy u will notice how much mroe relaxed u are. Meditating just gets u more relaxed. Watching the thinker is easier when u practice becoming more present. At first I was able to recognize the part of me thinking away but couldnt do nothign about it. But through various practises I am at a point where I will be going about my day adn will sometimes noticed myself just thinking or talkin to myself in my head. That is what eckhart  means by wathcin the thinker. When i observe my self thinkking or talkin to myt self I am watchin the "thinker". As soon as i catch myself talkin to myself I am more aware and present. 

Again. Disregard ambiguity because although he means well and has a point. He doesnt understand ur dilemma and hence does nto have the ability to see things from ur persepective.
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ambiguity wrote:
Mate, like I said in your previous thread, go pull SMOKE SHOWs & make your millions.

Ecky is for faggots.
yeah i feel that
to all you dreamers out there.. keep dreaming man.  but you know sometimes you gotta wake up from the dream and go get it. go get your shit together and make a better future for yourself.  fuck 'the now' man.  think about your future.  that's what's important
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XXL wrote:
ambiguity wrote:
Mate, like I said in your previous thread, go pull SMOKE SHOWs & make your millions.

Ecky is for faggots.
yeah i feel that
to all you dreamers out there.. keep dreaming man.  but you know sometimes you gotta wake up from the dream and go get it. go get your shit together and make a better future for yourself.  fuck 'the now' man.  think about your future.  that's what's important
Exactly. If you want to be Ecky, go live in a fucking cave and meditate till the cows come home.

The absurdity blows my mind at how many fools regurgitate the same repetititive shit on the forums with not a single clue at what is going on.

Can Ecky help? Sure but, from the looks of it, he is doing more harm to you fellas then good.

Guys constantly seek help for "unreactiveness" and haven't got a fucking clue about it.

Like Ecky says, these are all sign posts. You still got to do your own thing. Its one thing to acquire a model and another to be a follower.

At a certain point, fake it till you make it isn't going to cut it any more, and you have to be the Man.

What Ecky means to say when he talks about watching the thinker is to not be raging and out of sort when you feel strong emotional feelings, thoughts, and reactions.

Guess what? This goes against our natural programming but so does pulling randoms every where we go.

A lot of guys still got on their fucking goggles and fake fucking mustaches spewing the same shit and tactics every other cunt uses. A bit of originality will not kill you.

The same misunderstanding of unreactiveness, instructors relate to being proactive, and drawing a line.

Mate, if she fucks with me, flakes, and or crosses the line, she is moving to Alaska, and I am sending her a drift.

Any way, good luck guys on being part monk & part hit man. what chu talking about
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I never could find that motherfucker.. let alone watch him lol

I just dont bother with the eckhart tolle stuff anymore

Although one good thing that really helped me with things, is his non resistance principle.

Don't resist the present... helped me out a lot
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