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December 10th, 2016
2 Years Deep: Thoughts from a Late Night Stream of Consciousness
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Powerhouse

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Where to begin...

July marks about 2nd year that I've been into this whole "pickup thing".

I sure picked a funny username. Can't explain how that one happened. It's a great adjective though. Noun too if you're into that.

First year was pretty much a bunch of bullshit. Figuring out the mechanics, getting a fat boost of ego straight to the vein, being an extremely cool faggot.

Getting too eager in all this can make one pretty intolerable. I fucking hate hearing people qualify themselves now. If there was any one thing that Jeff planted in my brain it was to stop qualification. I almost have difficulty talking about shit that "seems cool" just because I don't want to qualify myself and it's just "whatever" to me. He helped a lot, anyone who's taken a program should be able to grasp what I mean by a LOT.

You really can't focus on the mechanics. They'll only get in your way. In fact, saying "fuck it" to the mechnanics and letting yourself fuck up will yield you more valuable experience than trying to perfect the "Step by Step" of the game. You won't find the edge of the table until you push the envelope off of it.

Going out to "pickup girls" is such a double edged sword. It begins with an expectation. It tinges the whole night with an outcome.
People who go out to "pickup girls" are generally not going out and having fun. They want to have fun and they want to fuck girls and they're trying to do them all at the same time. 

Motherfucker I know when you're TRYING to have fun as opposed to HAVING FUN. 
You think she doesn't?
She knows you're trying to pick her up.
If you're not having fun then what the fuck are you doing

the only reason you're continuing to not have fun is because you're reaching for her
she should be reaching into you, into your mind and heart and soul because she's curious about the dumbass in front of her spouting off shit like he don't give a fuck

natural is the keyword we like to throw around here. effortless. 
what makes something natural? what makes it effortless?
when it captivates you, when it tugs on your soul....
when breathing it in makes your skin crawl and eyes roll...
when you want it so purely that you forget yourself and act through your true intentions

when you forget yourself...

does this mean... "FUCK IT LET'S DO THIS SHIT. DURRRR RAGEEEE ASDLKFNASDLKFJANBSDFL;KJN GET BITCHES WHERE THEY AT...WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE....HMMM OR THAT ONE...OR THAT ONE....."

...no...

"yeah dude, check out this, ahaha, DongMaster's Delight, durrr pyro love, dumbshit.....etc" ---- *oh shit...beauty* (and the approach has already begun in the middle of your sentence while your eyes caught the lithe little blonde floating ever so elegantly through the entryway)....

the eyes will start your approach. you'll open the girl before you ever open your mouth and she'll react in kind.
eyes tell oh so much. "reading the mind in the eyes test" will get you started. google it fuckers, i'm too lazy right now.

Your problems don't end when you get the girl you've been dreaming of. 

The girl you've been dreaming of will break your heart and disappoint you in ways you've never imagined.
You will feel ecstasty and disappointment in ways that aren't conveyable through words.
It's beautiful and terrifying. Love.
Freaks me out.

Met her in a liquor store. Talked a bunch of bullshit, gave her my number, we hung out later the next day and fell in love.
Mechanics and "how to pickup a girl" don't mean dick when there's no feeling.
That goes both ways.

She will never make you happy.

One day when I was working on some music I was struck with a thought.

"God I'm so happy being with this girl" and it made me smile...and immediately after it was follwed with another thought...

"God, I'm so happy being."

and THAT hit me so hard that I had to put all my shit aside and sit down for a minute and fully take in the experience that was happening to me.

I'm happy. I am the only one who can do that. Tears literally came to my eyes. This was the first point in my life where I just got it to the core of my being.

I love BEING. and I love BEING with her. 

She will never make you happy. You have to learn to do that on your own. She will be busy. She will have her own life. I'm lucky if I can see my girl once a week. I see other girls too, but she's the only one I want. I can't obsess on it though. Overthinking the issue never helps.

As a micro and macro thing. It doesn't matter. As a long or short term thing it doesn't matter. 
Happiness over the short term will create positive experience over the short term. Happiness over the long term will generate positive experience over the long term.

How does one acheive happiness though? That a really rough question. Something people have written volumes on with no definitive answer. I like to think that I'm extremely cool and have all the answer so to me it's only one word: integrity...

He who is true to himself in his thoughts words and actions and can act on those in an unstifled manner. The man who can live his life and deal with everyone's dumb shit and come back and see himself in the mirror and know to the very core of his being that shit's okay. That's happiness.

I have some difficulty discussing the actual mechanics of a pickup. Mainly because there are no mechanics, it's all just bullshit.
Alex Treasure ALL UP IN THIS BITCH: Do Shit. Deal with Shit. Time is your ally.

Questions are the voice of inexperience looking for a way to ease to discomfort of the unknown or the imagined. Whenever you have a question about what to do, the best way to find out how you should do it, is by doing it....

thats all for now... I've spent the last hour or so rambling with Avicii on in the background...may throw in a couple stories about picking up girls while on acid or X later, other than that most FR's are pretty benign.
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Paris Boum Boum

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Nice post man. Thanks. 

Could you expand on the "not reaching for her" part ? How do you manage to not reach for anything and at the same time push the envelope, persist, force the pull, etc ? I realized that focusing on pulling and persisting made me more outcome dependent, it made me believe that her desire for me has to do with something I should do. Now I am toning that down, but I am becoming more of a zen pussy. 

Anyway, cool post. 
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Starsailor

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Beautiful post mate

Thanks..
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Bitme

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feel ya
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progress-now

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This was a great post. Question: how do you go about having fun on your own, specifically when you're out alone?
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progress-now wrote:
This was a great post. Question: how do you go about having fun on your own, specifically when you're out alone?

do you have fun hitting on girls/ meeting new people? Then that is what you should do when out alone
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Powerhorse great post mate, i also had this same ridiculous sense of euphoria not too long ago and INTEGRITY was definately the key.
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Macavity

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 Whoa dude, its almost coming up to my two years into game as well and im not gonna lie
I've recently been having the EXACT same thoughts. Literally the same realisations and learning
experiences as what you wrote up in your post above. You just wrote it a lot nicer ha! 

Nice one. 
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Powerhouse

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"the only reason you're continuing to not have fun is because you're reaching for her
she should be reaching into you, into your mind and heart and soul because she's curious about the dumbass in front of her spouting off shit like he don't give a fuck"


Paris Boum Boum: The envelope is pushed and the interaction moves forward through your presence. You are in front of the girl living for yourself, BEING HAPPY...with her...the pull is given, but it's a feeling. You're not continually pushing the outcome trying to force it to happen. You're simply having fun with the girl while the clock winds down to fuck.

Think about it like skydiving...once you've jumped out of the plane, there's very little you have control of....you're just letting things happen naturally until it feels right to pull the line.

Let me note... I am a huge proponent of the let the girl fall in love with me and leave together style. I'm a huge fan of the one shot one kill one minute pull. I like everything in between.
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Great post. Lots of wisdom. I've been in this hardcore 1yr (almost exactly). This game isn't what I first thought it was. I'm raising my standards and yearning for new and different things. I'm not seeking women out of need anymore, but because they strengthen my spirit. Every girl that blows you out is a blessing. Every girl you meet and every girl you hookup with teaches you more about your self and the process of life in general. My role as a man is becoming clearer and clearer and the path (though still very foggy) is slowly revealing itself. I have a much stronger appreciation for life, I've suffered a lot of bullshit and I have become stronger.

Though I disagree with you about the mechanics. There are many variables you can manipulate to get more effective results. The only question is do you have the discipline and strong will for it.
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Powerhouse

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Yes mechanics can be manipulated but you have to trust yourself to let that happen instead of forcing it. This
means relaxing more, having more fun, and ultimately enjoying more success.
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Truly an amazing post, but I don't think you're the type of person who needs someone to tell them it's a good post. You know it's good because you know it's good.

The best part of the whole post is this: "I'm happy. I am the only one who can do that. Tears literally came to my eyes. This was the first point in my life where I just got it to the core of my being. I love BEING."

It's the ineffable fucking truth to life.
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