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December 9th, 2016
The truth: Girls will game you after you approach!
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Goran~

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Join Date: 03/11/2009 | Posts: 1238

Ive been reading a bunch of posts on here which spurred the desire to write this quick post, hope it helps some of you guys:


Biggest problem guys have with not pulling at the end of the night is not allowing the girl to game you!

Note: She will rarely pull you (she will game you but wont pull cos she doesn't wanna look like a slut, the sex has to be your fault in her mind, lol), so all you have to do is initiate the pull.


Your job is pretty much done (with some exceptions I will mention below) after you approach and get her attracted. (if shes already attracted its pretty much done straight after you approach.)

Most guys dont relise or see this, because they are too busy thinking of what to do next, not to make a mistake, instead of enjoying the interaction.

Literally all you have to do from approach to initiating the pull(the exceptions I mentioned above) is smile, have sexy eye contact, be relaxed, enjoy the girls company, be a little sexual when you feel horny (neck biting, puting her hand on your boner) telling her shes making you horny, be touching her, escalate at the right moments e.g when you say something, when she says something, when she says something cool or fun, when you feel like it, kissing, neck biting, most of these are a form of escalating.

You don't even have to say much, talking will literally increase your chance of not pulling... (Most of my pulls are the girl talking 90% of the time and the 10% is me saying something funny, answering her questions, asking her questions about her (Qualifying her), saying sexy stuff, "You're making me really horny right now."). Leading, leading can be as simple, as taking her hand and putting it on your boner, or on your ass, (you're leading her to do stuff to you, letting her know its ok), to physically moving with her to another location inside the venue.

Finally when you can see its time to go, all you need to do is pretty much say "Lets go." Grab her hand and lead her out, she knows whats going on and will act accordingly, If she doesn't grab her jacket from coat check, ask her if she has one in there instead of amusing she does and then waiting round the coat check for 5 minutes for her to get her jacket like I did a couple weeks ago, and then realize that she doesn't have a jacket at all after finally asking her to get it. (Goran's Fail: Goran grabs Jacket, and waits round for her to grab hers, kissing, touching ect outside coat check, 5 minutes later Goran: "So do you have a coat in there or not?" Girl: "Um No?" Goran: "lol, lets go.")

Some girls might ask, where are we going, you can say, "I want to show you my car" (They know I'm sober), "lets go somewhere quieter", "My place, I want to show you the view from my balcony" (Goran's Balcony View: Dirty ass barber shop, a nasty ass pub with drunks falling over each other and shouting profanities, an industrial area, an old power station, railway tracks across the industrial area, a massive supermarket parking-lot, lol. Girls always seem to think its a "lovely view?"), "Lets go back to my place and have some drinks, I drove here so cant drink unfortunately." ect...

The biggest lesson is you hardly have to do anything, the girl will do most of the pulling and gaming aslong as you throw in a few of the things above to show her you're still interested and you like her.



Cheers

Goran~
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#1

Sonnie

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 This is top advice! I like this, this is basically what I do when I pull.
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Nice post.
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Matt. wrote:
This is very true. But you need to be comfortable not doing anything and realising that by doing nothing you're also doing enough because depending on the girl you'll often not get any signals at all that things are moving forwards.

Actually I made this mistake a few weeks ago. Approached some polish girl who was definitely my type. Got physical, chatted about very little in general, but I felt like it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't trust things - maybe I was a bit rusty. But she was still there. She wasn't really investing, but she was still there right next to me. Her friends were totally cool with me, she wasn't signalling to them or anything. But I didn't feel completely comfortable and decided to 'eject' telling her I'd find her later. Needless to say, I didn't. Call it a 'shit test' or whatever, but it reinforces this point - you don't really need to do anything but you should expect a girl to test you and check you're congruent with it on a sub-communication level. She wants to make sure you're the rock solid guy you're portraying and if you are things will flow pretty smoothly. A lot of this is built in self trust and experience. You get there by doing this a lot.
100 percent. You don't have to actively pass "congruence tests". If you happen to be congruent at that moment in time, you will flow smoothly.
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Matt. wrote:
This is very true. But you need to be comfortable not doing anything and realising that by doing nothing you're also doing enough because depending on the girl you'll often not get any signals at all that things are moving forwards.

Actually I made this mistake a few weeks ago. Approached some polish girl who was definitely my type. Got physical, chatted about very little in general, but I felt like it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't trust things - maybe I was a bit rusty. But she was still there. She wasn't really investing, but she was still there right next to me. Her friends were totally cool with me, she wasn't signalling to them or anything. But I didn't feel completely comfortable and decided to 'eject' telling her I'd find her later. Needless to say, I didn't. Call it a 'shit test' or whatever, but it reinforces this point - you don't really need to do anything but you should expect a girl to test you and check you're congruent with it on a sub-communication level. She wants to make sure you're the rock solid guy you're portraying and if you are things will flow pretty smoothly. A lot of this is built in self trust and experience. You get there by doing this a lot.

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Word.  :)
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 The community has changed.

Going from trying to impress (DHV, negs,...) to a very minimalistic game.

Awesome post man!

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 The funny thing is, I can't recall a single pull from the Hot Seat that had a 90% girl 10% guy talking ratio. Usually it was like 50/50 from the middle and with quite a bit of guy talking at the start
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Old Game: Demonstrate Value
New Game: Don't Display Value.

I think its the same. Just a different way of looking at it.

Its like with penis, if you have to keep telling others you've got a big one, chances are, its not true.


ChinaBoy wrote:
 The community has changed.

Going from trying to impress (DHV, negs,...) to a very minimalistic game.

Awesome post man!

ChinaBoy
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 Good post. This is a missing part of my game. Will try. 
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Goran~

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Bulrathi wrote:
 The funny thing is, I can't recall a single pull from the Hot Seat that had a 90% girl 10% guy talking ratio. Usually it was like 50/50 from the middle and with quite a bit of guy talking at the start


Considering I wasnt in any of the hotseat pulls maybe thats why none of them were 90% girl 10% guy talking ratio.

If you read slowly and carefully you will se I wrote thats what most of "my" pulls are like.

The funny thing is the hotseat pulls arent "gospel", Mystery method routine guys used to pull too and they werent in the hotseat, it doesnt mean it doesnt work, "if it aint in hotseat it aint true!", just because most of my pulls are 90% girl 10% me talking doesnt mean yours have to be, but in general the less you say the less chance you have of saying something stupid, look at the bigger picture of what I wrote dont pick out points you disagree with.

Take what works for you disregard the rest...

Peace...
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