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April 25th, 2014
Keeping girls in state on the pull.
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#11

Shooshi

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Join Date: 06/26/2011 | Posts: 7

Pumba wrote:
 I find that being very dominant physically in silly ways, for any reason doesn't matter, just take her by the back, push her in the air, give her a 'daddy hug', anything you can think of in the role of you manhandling her, it's great to pump her state... All this while talking bs nonsense
I pulled everytime (i mean 100%) everytime i did this. It is totally awesome!
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#12
maximal

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Join Date: 08/15/2010 | Posts: 289

Just keep it fun.

If you suddenly turn cold and serious as soon as you try to "pull," it's only natural that she's going to think "what the fuck just happened?  I'm out..."  From open to escalation to kiss to pull to close, there's only one tool you need to get where you want to go with the girl (well, two if you count your penis): your ability to have fun and radiate that positive energy onto the girl.  This is why, for most guys, a single turn of the cheek before the kiss marks the end of their game.  They feel good, are having fun and conveying themselves in a playful and enjoyable way, but as soon as the girl throws up any resistance at all (which, in this case, isn't even real resistance, because she hasn't left or slapped you), they instantly lose their state and are no longer able to have fun with the girl.  As per the "law of state transfer," if you feel awkward, she feels awkward.  If you feel bad, she feels bad.

This is why it's so important to dissociate yourself from the emotional dependence upon any outcome.  If you're basing all of your fun on whether or not the girl kisses you, gives you her number, has sex with you, etc., then as soon as you go for any of those things and initially are resisted, you'll basically fold your hand early and quit.  Having fun no matter what the girl is doing is going to keep you from losing your "state," "mojo," "good vibes," etc. at all times when you're with her.  You'll be emotionally impervious to her bullshit, and as a result, you'll receive less bullshit.  Sometimes bullshit comes in the form of shit-tests, and sometimes it comes in the form of the girl not doing things your way.  No matter which of these it is, your mantra should be the same:

Have fun.

Base your enjoyment on something consistent that can't really be tampered with.  When I go out to do approaches, go to a bar, etc., my criteria is this:  "This is awesome - I'm out at a sweet venue and I'm going to meet some new people and probably see some old faces as well.  Here I am in this awesome bar/club/whatever, and tonight, it's my social playground.  If I do well with a girl or two, that will be great!  If I strike out with a few, I'll have some hilarious stories to tell!  Whatever the case, I'm enjoying this environment and experience for me, and anything else that happens is merely the icing on that already delicious cake."

Oh - and the cake is an ice cream cake.  With fucking oreo bits in it.  And it's got those trick candles that keep relighting themselves no matter how many times you blow them out.  Be the candles, motherfuckers.

- max out
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#13
ambiguity

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Join Date: 10/28/2009 | Posts: 5327

Glad you like the responses. Hopefully, some of them ressonate with you.

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gengiscon wrote:
 These are solid, thanks. 
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#14
OutofBacon!

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Join Date: 12/02/2010 | Posts: 796

Julien wrote:
You have to be in state yourself for her to be in state as well. I'd actually recommend not even think about state, just view it as something that just naturally happens all the time and that's normal to you. Whatever you feel, she feels.

If it's something you feel like you're doing or "pulling off" she will feel that as well and not feel comfortable around you.

I usually focus on taking the responsibility off her and making her feel comfortable I.E: positively leading, false time constraining it, etc etc.
gengiscon wrote:
How do you keep a girl you just met on the street in state on the pull?

At the end of the night on street game I can sometimes grab a girl and get her to follow me but since there is no trust there they always lose state and run off. I imagine this is a common occurance but how do I mitigate the risk? 

You still do false time constraints? How so any detail on this?
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#15
Paris Boum Boum

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Join Date: 04/02/2009 | Posts: 2703

Concretely:

-Principle for me is: stay in state, own her mind. But this is not concrete. Here is what I do concretely

-I manhandle her all the time. When I feel the state is dropping, just before it drops, I'll put her up on my shoulder, I'll do something fun like this to keep the state up. 

-I talk about the lames shit in a funny way. I'll point out to whatever thing is in front of us and I'll start spitting about it. "This tree over here is Randy, he's a crackhead".

-I lead a lot when she is hesitating. 

-When I feel her state is dropping and she is wondering what the fuck she is doing with a guy she met less than an hour ago, I keep it cool, normal, chill, free from outcome, and I don't force the outcome, ie I don't care if she leaves. See the video with Julien, when he tells the girl "yeah, you can leave, it's ok" - kind of like this. She realizes that if she leaves she will be the one losing.

-I mix genuine chill lame conversation with BT pumping bs. ANYTHING GENUINE YOU SAY WILL BE INTERESTING TO HER BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE A DIRTY SLUT, ie knowing you more doesn't hurt. So oftentimes, if you just say "Tonight I ate vegetables, because health is important" and talk about what you ate and how you prefere broccolis over eggplants, she'll feel good about it. 

-I am very physical with her, but my priority isn't on escalating on her, it's on having fun. 

-I'll figure out whether she's the "little girl" kind of woman (then I'll be clawing her all the time and tell her stories), the "dominate me" (in which case I'll be pretending I rape her in the street for fun - you pull her hair, turn her around, wall slam her, say "HELLO I AM BORIS THE PLUMBER I CAME TO FIX YOUR TV" -  and laugh with her ha ha ha lol) etc

Keeping girls in state on the pull is one of the strongest part of my game I realized lately, because I am so free from outcome that we are both having much fun and the girl sticks to me no matter what I do. 
So the key is being ok with losing the girl.
Are you still happy if you lose her ? Maybe this will solve all your problems on that matter. 
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#16

bratra88

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Join Date: 10/03/2009 | Posts: 384

 when i took a bootcamp with tyler, he pulled these two hotties within 2 minutues by telling them he has a black leather mask in his basement that he wants to show them.  Then when he pulled them to our apartment he tossed them over to two other students and they lost the girls within minutes.  His advice on keeping the girls on the pull, BE SO FUCKING CHILL LIKE ICE.  Do not let anything phase you, and do not fuck anything up because you already won.
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#17
Julien

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Join Date: 04/05/2008 | Posts: 559

Yo. I usually do this when pulling if it's a situation where I have to persist for the logistics.

When I false time constraint the pull it's more focused on taking the responsibility off of her. If she doesn't have to worry about feeling bad about herself or having to look like a slut in front of her friends for leaving with you, your chances have making it happen will be much higher.

I'm actually in Hawaii right now writing a 4 part article about this on my blog, I'll throw in some specific examples: www.julienlife.com
JeffT wrote:

Julien wrote:
You have to be in state yourself for her to be in state as well. I'd actually recommend not even think about state, just view it as something that just naturally happens all the time and that's normal to you. Whatever you feel, she feels.

If it's something you feel like you're doing or "pulling off" she will feel that as well and not feel comfortable around you.

I usually focus on taking the responsibility off her and making her feel comfortable I.E: positively leading, false time constraining it, etc etc.

You still do false time constraints? How so any detail on this?
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