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Crass

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Join Date: 01/03/2010 | Posts: 30

I REALLY do not want to fucking write this but I need to re-commit myself to getting out, being social, and finding women. This is my first step. I'm going to - once again - try to find my glory. In January 2009 I embarked on a journey to improve my success with women. I never had problems with women per-se, I was just never very aggressive and always had a bit of a "chode-troll-doll" inside me dictating some of my behaviors toward women so that there was always hints of "wuss" + "incongruence" in my behavior. The abridged version of the story goes something like this: On a different forum I met a few awesome people who became incredible wings, great friends, and taught me everything I know. Of these aforementioned friends - one ditched me and moved to Denver to slap people in the face with his cock; a couple of those cunts ditched me and moved to San Diego to pursue other interests, hotter women, and the American dream (I am uber jealous); Before all that I became good very quickly as my wings were awesome and I worked hard at improving. That is not to say that I became a superstar, but I had gotten to the point where I had a nice rotation of FBs whose company I enjoyed and never had problems replacing one when things got stale. I am always looking to improve

on June 21, 2010 I wrote the following in a field report on another other forum:
"went out on a D2 of absolute epic proportion last thursday with a girl who made me want to melt... If that sounds completely and utterly homotastic, it's because I watched Twilight by myself on Saturday and my nuts jumped out of the sack and ran away to find an owner with a real dick...i'm still recovering....Anyway, I like this girl. She's fun, smart, attractive, awesome, good sense of humor...I tried to fix this area of my life in order to get women like this. After 3 different venues and lots of making out, i pulled her back to my apartment where, as we were walking in the door, I said, "no funny business tonight". We start hooking up, I keep it pg-13 for the night. Planted seeds for later love explosion. Some of you might feel the need to slap me like the little I seem to have been. That's fair. Anyway, we have been texting back and forth, D3 of glory on Thursday."

That was the last field report/forum post I wrote (until now)...that girl became my girlfriend, I fell in love and lived chodetastically-ever-after....until February 2011 - when I got shipped overseas for work and we had to breakup. I am not going to lie, I am still hung up on her. Unfortunately/fortunately it's time to move on. Going to do that by starting to write on this forum. Will be reading some of my old field reports and reflecting on them in this forum in order to reignite the spark. Hopefully that will encourage me to go out a lot. I already read some of my old field reports and felt some of this chode-rust start to shed off of me like snake skin. I hope to be going out a lot...I also hope to meet some really cool people via this forum like I did in NYC.  

I moved from New York to London and so far I hate this shit hole. My experience so far has been - It's like New York but bigger, more expensive, and with uglier women (I really hope I am wrong). And this city is more littered with Wall Street/finance douchebags than NYC (they call them "city boys" here)

My ultimately goal is to again find a smart, fun, attractive, down-to-earth girl to date. But until that happens again....I will proceed to attempt to fuck as many of the UK's attractive women as I can. 

-Crass
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The Legend of JT

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You're so money and you don't even know it.

I'll be following this ;)
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Crass

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I just spent a fucking hour writing up a field report for last night while I was hungover. I then accidentally changed the page on my browser. I am so fucking angry right now I am going to rip apart my whole fucking apartment. I really do not want to re-write this, but this is part of what I need to do to become better, so I’m going to do it..again. 

Got home last night really tired from work. It’s been a long week, I don’t want to go out, I don’t want to drink, I don’t want to be social, I don’t want to go to the gym…I want to sit in front of the TV and be a loser. In fact, I decide that if I am going to be a loser, I MUST WATCH chick flicks all night and listen to emo songs as punishment. I sign into the forum to read a few threads that I have been following. I then see that my thread has a new post…It’s JT. He tells me I’m money and tells me that he is going to be following my thread. I suddenly get flashbacks to a few moments when I’d been out with JT in the last couple of years…he is absolutely amazing and truly the embodiment of self-improvement and getting it done. Before I left NY, JT and I hadn’t been out together in ages… mostly because I have had a girlfriend for most of the last year. Anyway…I see JT’s post and I suddenly wake up. It sparked something in me. I call my friend, shout into the phone “I’M GOING TO THE GYM, WHEN I’M DONE, WE’RE GOING OUT (he tries to weasel out of it)…shut the fuck up, we’re going out!”

Finish a quick workout at the gym and then shows and put on my contacts. I used to use my contacts as an anchor for good times as I would only wear them when I was going out to bars to meet women. I haven’t put them on in a long time…immediately I feel my state spike (could be placebo effect but who cares, it works). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_(NLP)

I show up to bar, walk in and my friend is waiting across the room with 4 drinks, I walk slowly with a big smile on my face. I am really excited to be out. The bar isn’t exactly the most upscale place in the world but it has a great vibe, cool people, and is in a hipster part of town. Wow, I feel great. We instantly inhale the 4 drinks, then another 4, and then another 4. I have had 3 double-shot mixed drinks and 3 straight shots in 15 minutes. My friend whom I will call “Z” is a total natural with women. He has had the same hot girlfriend who is 10 years younger than him for a long time now.

Before I left the house, I read an old FR about an interaction which I completely forgot I had ever had. It really inspired me and I am so happy that I used to write reports about going out….here’s the blurb that really ignited my animal spirits:

EXCERPT FROM FIELD REPORT, FEBRUARY 2009:


"…After a few minutes I moved my girl to another area of the bar where we sat side by side on a couch. We chatted, I teased her.

Here are a couple of snippits from what I remember:

Her: How old are you?
Me: 50.
Her: No seriously how old are you?
Me: Why dont you tell me first and then I'll tellyou
Her: 27
Me: 24
Her: Oh my god you are so young!!!
Me: I'll give you a minute of silence to get over it...(I turned my head away from her, then I turned back after a few seconds). Over it yet?
Her: Yes

Snippit 2, at this point we were very close to each other, it was totally on:

Me: What do you want to be when you grow up?
Her: That is such a line!!! Do you use that one
all the time?
Me: *calmly* No it's not a line, it's something you ask when you want to get to know someone. 
Her: It's totally a line!
Me: *I turned my head away, to IOD her, then turned back* Look, I dont use lines. I really want to fuck you *pause* hard... but I want to get to know you first. So what do you want to be?

Her: *she was shocked but so excited that you could hear the attraction spark* I appreciate your honesty. I want to be bla bla bla when I grow up

At this point, I felt even more drunk, we were talking into each others ears. She totally wanted me, then she kissed me (I knew she wanted it, but I wasnt going to give it so easily). We make out for a while, then her friend comes and interrupts and takes her away. I guess my buddy blew it up...d'oh! We are walking out, but before we leave I walk over to her in line for the bathroom and get her number. I told her we were going to grab a sandwich and go home to watch some stuff we DVRd and that she should
come hang out. I texted her, told her where we were getting a sandwich. She said she was getting food too. Then I texted her my buddy's address. I didnt hear back from her for a few minutes so I passed out. I woke up this morning and had 4 new texts and 3 missed calls...

text 1: So what are you doing?
text 2: Do you want to hang out?
text 3: Well I guess youre asleep so nevermind
text 4: hope you had a fun night. Too bad we didnt get to hang out.

Too bad indeed!"

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When I read this, I remembered how easy everything is. I go to the bar to get more drinks, when I come back Z has opened 2 really hot black girls. They are dressed-up way too much for the bar we are at but they look good. Z introduces me to the girl he’s not talking to
Z: This is my mate Crass…he is awesome…and he has a huge cock.

I lock eyes with the girl, crack a small smile, shake hands and it’s on. This girl comes off as really ritzy and posh and she keeps talking about how she goes to Miami all the time and how it’s not ritzy enough for her. I view this as a shit test and resolve not to be phased. I look away when she starts talking about some of this stuff and break the thread. Shit test passed. In most of my interactions that go well, I remember very little about what I said and did…I learned early to focus more on body language and non verbal communication as it accounts for 80% of making a good interaction. This case is no different. I remember vague snippits (especially the shit tests). For example

Her: What do you do for a living
Me: *Unflinching* I am unemployed. ***Cut to new topic of conversation***

I am not really unemployed...I suppose my job is technically considered “high value” but with girls like this they are used to men who have these high value jobs... it might be detrimental as she may start to play games etc. I think she sensed incongruency in my answer because I am dressed nice and carry myself well…but I refuse to acknowledge it and keep charging through the interaction.

Her: I have always wanted to go to XYZ Social Club in NY, have you ever been?
Me: Yes
Her: Really?! I read about it in the tabloids all the time! They have a sister club right up the road from here. Can you take me right now?
Me: No
Her: Oh, so you don’t have the global membership?
Me: I have the global membership…I’m not taking you though. *I look her dead in the eyes and say very seriously*** I don’t feel like hanging out with socialite cunts tonight.

The line served two purposes…I think it really deflated her “posh” persona and after that the conversation became a lot more normal. She started talking about how she grew up in poverty and had to work so hard. We started having a normal conversation. This girl is obviously used to getting everything she wants and men are obviously always showering her with gifts and are always eager to please.

At another point in the interaction, Z bring me more drinks (I refuse to allow him to buy these women drinks)…and the girl spills mine on the ground. Without missing a beat, I tell her “You need to buy me 2 now to make it up…” She immediately does so. Wow!!! I completely forgot how incredible this whole thing can be. Z is in shock. He can’t believe I am making this girl buy me drinks. As the night goes on, things star to pick up and I decide it’s time to escalate. I am in drunk, in state, and have lost all my inhibition. I want to fuck this girl. I want her to know this…but before I can let her know, she throws out another pseudo-shit test.

Her: Have you ever been with a black girl (the truth is that I have not, but I don’t want her to feel like that she is a special prize)
Me: Yes, once. When I was 16. She made me cum so many times so fast that my dick almost fell off. (this got a good laugh out of her)

She talks about how good she is in bed...(is she shit testing or qualifying herself?) I barely acknowledge it. We chat a bit more, I get her number and we keep talking. At this point she is sitting on a bar stool and I am standing between her legs facing her and we are chest-to-chest. At various points when she disengages, I disengaged too by walking away to the bar, or turning my head to pretend to see if Z was still ok, and then when I reengaged her with eye contact, things intensified. We start talking about love, sex, etc. We’re talking close in each others’ ears, and I am completely turned on. She has her hand on my thigh, and I have my hand inside her legs but at various points I run it all over her back and grab her ass….she has a smoking body. Then the following gem of interaction ensues…

Her (into my ear): You want to stick it in me don’t you?

Me (into her ear): Absolutely. But I think you're more than just a fuck. I've enjoyed talking to you and getting to know about your aspirations and background. *I then escalate* I also know your type…*I grab her hair from the back of her head and pull back firmly, she responds positively, I kiss her neck and then say* You like being bent over and being fucked from behind while having your hair pulled.

 I then back off a little bit, let go of her hair and look in her eyes. She is totally, totally turned on and wanting it. She leans in towardme, brings hear head really close to mine…I know what she wants, but I put in an extra second’s pause…*makeout* I grab her hand and put it on my dick, she starts rubbing. It’s been a long time since I’ve done something like this…I am just amazed at how easily this interaction is progressing…we are literally in the middle of the bar and she is rubbing my dong for all to see. We stop, I smile. And then I throw out a silly line… “You know what else is crazy? After you get fucked hard, I can tell, you love to cuddle!” She breaks eye contact, starts to smile, and if her skin wasn’t so dark, she’d be blushing.

Me: OH MY GOD YOU’RE BLUSHING!!!
Her: I’m black! How can you tell I’m blushing?

I start laughing. I bust on her a little bit longer about how she loves cuddling…and then I tell her I like cuddling to and then I try to pull. No matter what I do I can’t get her to come home with me. She wants to, but her friends are there and she is still waiting for a couple of her other friends to arrive at the bar (it’s 1am, wtf!) She starts insisting that I call her later. She says it 3 or 4 times at various points and makes sure her number is in my phone. I start telling her all the dirty things I want to do to her, and how glorious and fun it would be. Nothing works, I am getting tired, tell her I'm exhausted and bounce (Z had left a little while before this)…this chick is definitely a D2 lay.

The only problem with this evening is that I never approached. Z opened the interaction and I just ran with it. I need to do some cold approaches on my own without having others do the opening. Regardless, this is definitely a positive start to putting myself back out there. I am probably going to call this girl tomorrow…her face was ok but her body was completely rocking. I also owe a shout to JT for backhandedly/unknowingly pressuring me. It sounds crazy but I probably would have stayed home and played with myself last night if I had not seen his post. Sorry for how long this turned out to be, really cathartic and good to think about it all in hindsight though. 
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The Legend of JT

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Crass wrote:

The only problem with this evening is that I never approached. Z opened the interaction and I just ran with it. I need to do some cold approaches on my own without having others do the opening. Regardless, this is definitely a positive start to putting myself back out there.

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Dude, you're beyond having to do cold approaches for the sake of doing cold approaches.  You're better than this.  

Thing is, just because you know kung-fu doesn't mean you go around kicking everyone's ass.  Same with this 'gayme'.

What you are is a normal, cool dude that goes out to have fun....you already got the skillzzz.  Use wisely ;)
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The Legend of JT wrote:


Dude, you're beyond having to do cold approaches for the sake of doing cold approaches.  You're better than this.  

Thing is, just because you know kung-fu doesn't mean you go around kicking everyone's ass.  Same with this 'gayme'.

What you are is a normal, cool dude that goes out to have fun....you already got the skillzzz.  Use wisely ;)
Pure Gold. I need to stop being so hard on myself all the time. Dial it down and focus on having a good time, being Crass, and enjoying the moment. 
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I read a post in another thread where someone was whining about who they went out 2 nights a week for ~2 years and how they didnt see any especially great results. Jeffy's response was, "wow bro, two nights a week, a whole YEAR and A HALF? I'm surprised you're not fucking pornstars yet. There is a distinct difference between "just showing up" and "putting in WORK." I could not agree more with Jeffy.

It took me back to a snippit I highlighted 2 years ago...THIS IS A FUCKING GEM:

"Training is more effective if the skill closely related to everyday life; training should be done in increments; and work should be concentrated into a short time, a training technique called 'massed practice' which has been found to be far more effective than long-term but less frequent training...

"Many of these same principles are used in 'immersion' learning of a foreign language. How many of us have taken language courses over years and not learned as much as when we went to the country and 'immersed' ourselves in the language for a far shorter period? Daily immersion allows us to get 'massed practice'. Our accent suggests to others that they may have to use simpler language with us; hence we are incrementally challenged, or shaped. Learned nonuse is thwarted, because our survival depends on communication"
-The Brain that Changes itself (pp. 155, 156)

2 years later I look at some of the people with whom I started this journey and it's obvious who immersed themselves and who was a dabbler.


Separately, went out with chick from Friday night for a quick drink before she went out to a bar. I like setting up a rotation of FBs because it's easy and once I have the rotation it's minimal work to get laid and I can keep working my ass off professionally whilst not worrying about women. When one falls out of the rotation, I go back to the pond and get a replacement. Today was a good interaction with this girl, chrystalized myself and I think this one is going to become a solid FB. She looked a lot better than I remember. Props to me for grabbing a cutie while being drunk.

Scheduled to cook dinner together on Thursday. My plan for Thursday is to cook dinner, drink lots of wine and stuff her like it's Thanksgiving.

Despite all this, I still cannot remember her damn name. Coincidentally, she calls me by the wrong name...but that is because I told her the wrong name when I was really drunk...it went down like this on Friday

Her: What's your name?
Me: Crass
Her: What did you say?
Me: Crass
Her: One more time...what's your name?
Me: Frank.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Sometimes, I amuse myself. Cheers to D3 and sealing the deal...
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Crass wrote:
The only problem with this evening is that I never approached. Z opened the interaction and I just ran with it. I need to do some cold approaches on my own without having others do the opening. Regardless, this is definitely a positive start to putting myself back out there. I am probably going to call this girl tomorrow…her face was ok but her body was completely rocking. I also owe a shout to JT for backhandedly/unknowingly pressuring me. It sounds crazy but I probably would have stayed home and played with myself last night if I had not seen his post. Sorry for how long this turned out to be, really cathartic and good to think about it all in hindsight though. 

It's not so important who starts the game but who finishes it.
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Crass wrote:

"Many of these same principles are used in 'immersion' learning of a foreign language. How many of us have taken language courses over years and not learned as much as when we went to the country and 'immersed' ourselves in the language for a far shorter period? Daily immersion allows us to get 'massed practice'. Our accent suggests to others that they may have to use simpler language with us; hence we are incrementally challenged, or shaped. Learned nonuse is thwarted, because our survival depends on communication"
-The Brain that Changes itself (pp. 155, 156)

Massed practice.  RSD World Summit 2011.  Come?  
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U5 -- I wish I could come to the world summit - I have work  + after July I will have no more vacation days until the 4th Quarter of the year....Northern & Northstar are going too, fuuuck. I hope you rip shit up for me (from your thread it sounds like you are RIPPING it apart out in Denver).

I was reflecting on what I wanted to get out of this whole thing now that I am single again. First off, I want to have more fun than I used to. JT is right...I've got a respectable set of skillz and this time around I want to enjoy myself more. I dont need to approach for the sake of approaching anymore. Now I just wanna go out, have a fucking good time and focus on the highest quality women. On that note, I revisted another old post from April 2009, a blast from the past "Crass Goals"...

From APRIL 2009

U5 has inspired me to take a harder look at what I’m looking to get out of being a part of this forum and from having the privilege to meet many of you guys. I will keep it relatively short. These are listed in no particular order:

One of my goals is completely homosexual…I want to meet guys like me who are intelligent, ambitious, and interested in improving this area of their lives; guys from whom I can learn while they also learn from me. There are to be no judgments when we talk about personal desires, life goals, and things we want to accomplish. If you can consistently go out with someone, share a beer, have a pleasant convo and approach girls while having a good time, you are no longer simply wingmen, YOU ARE FRIENDS. I want to make cool new friends. If that makes me a fruitcake…Merry-Fuckin’-Christmas.

My goal isn’t to have sex with as many beautiful girls as possible. I have no problems with anyone who wants to do that. In fact, if that’s what you want to do, and you need someone to help you in a set, I’ll make sure that I jump on whatever grenade that rolls by you. That’s what good wings and good friends do for each other. Like I said, no judgments. We all want different things out of life, jobs, women, ice cream, cars, etc. My goal is to meet smart, witty, attractive women with whom I can have more than just a physical interaction. You can categorize these women however you want, but I realize that because I have these high standards, in order to accomplish this, I have to meet lots and lots of women and screen out many “hot” ones who don’t fit the non-physical requirements. If this makes me a Chode, then I guess you can find me doing cannonballs into the Kiddie-Chode-Pool…bombs away!

I want my new found social attitude and abilities to spill over into my work/personal life. I want the things that I develop as Crass to manifest themselves into my daily life via an infusion of the fun/interesting aspects that attract women to me so that I become a more enjoyable person to be around at work and in casual interactions with strangers (That was a Run-On Sentence). I guess the simple way of saying this is that I want to be more socially savvy. When I go out with people, whether from this forum or not, I want them to remember being out with me as having been fun. I don’t necessarily always want to be the life of the party, but I definitely want to be fun/exciting to be around.

I hope that the people I go out with from this forum learn something (anything) from me along the way. Whether it’s via my mistakes, observations, triumphs, whatever…I want to ultimately add some value to the people around me because even after just a couple of months, many of you have added a tremendous amount of value to me toward accomplishing these goals. I still have a long fucking way to go before I can feel like I can hold a candle to some of you. I guess this makes me a fanboy… that means you can catch me in my purple cheerleader uniform on Friday nights in the West Village.
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I think these ARE STILL
my goals in creating and maintaining this thread and continuing to strive toward improvement. The only difference between now and then is that I've already accomplished some of this stuff and I'm trying to do it again in a diferent city....therefore, If you are in London....let's get in touch and get out.

-Crass
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Quick Update...

Trifecta of dates lined up. 1 met at a bar and 2 from Al Gore's Internet...Thursday, Friday, Saturday. The one on Friday is probably the least attractive of the bunch, but I'll make the most of it + use it to experiment with different venues/date ideas in London & to practice the pull as this is a much bigger city and my residence is in a tricky logistic spot.

Historically I've had a lot of success on D2/D3 situations, it's all about creating a good vibe, positive energy, good body language, having a good time, and being myself.

Since getting to this new city my emotions have been really volatile. I have been super moody and it's all a reflection of situations and issues in my professional life. I need to become more balanced overall. Improving my phsyical help was a start...the next part will be improving my goal setting and determining where I want to take the next 4-5 years of my life. It is quite scary, exciting, daunting, etc.
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Quick Update + some notes for self for this evening.

Thursday...I flaked, got caught up at work and just completely never showed to venue. Tried calling later in the evening but no response.
Friday...I get flaked on, karma is a bitch. However Thursday's chick calls, I get her out...nothing good happened, long FR coming later about this one. I never set the frame from the get to.

Thoughts for tonight's date:
A. I create the frame, set the tone etc.
B. She wants me.
C. It takes 5 hours to get a girl to sleep with you - I need to relax, enjoy, and escalate + turn up the dial progressively throughout the night
D. Just finished listening to Manwhore podcosts, "Girls love dick"....remember podcast title because it is logical and absolute truth.
E (addendum to B). I am the prize -- no really, I am, therefore act as such.

Logistics will be tough. She lives far west, I live far east. Night is starting in the middle and gradually each venue will be closer east.

If I am able to remember + internalize the 5 thoughts above, we will both get what we want.

-Crass
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