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December 10th, 2016
Kickbomber NYC (now TX). The Quest for Game.
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I want this HANDLED. And I’m not stopping until it is.

THIS is what's going to get you fast results.
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Had a feeling this was you... (You rolled with me and Jared about a week or two back)

The main reason why I had asked "how much stuff have you looked at" is because alot of it is irrelevant and it's obvious it already effected you based on...

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My views on women, it fluctuates. Most recently my thoughts have been ‘why can’t you just give a guy a CHANCE’? It’s so frustrating to have to go through all this bullshit, thinking about displaying this, appearing that, watching body language etc. I’d love to be able to just walk up and say ‘hey I thought you were really cute, why don’t we take 5 minutes to get to know each other?’ But instead I have to jump through all these goddamn hoops to appear ‘alpha’ or whatever and like ‘a man with options’ and all this other round-a-bout stuff. I just wish I could be more genuine and upfront without being punished for it. It’s so merciless. But it is what it is, so whatever. Sometimes I get bitter, or angry. When anger happens, I just shut down for days and stop talking to any and everybody until I come out of it.


What you do isn't as important as WHY you do what you do. The biggest thing is to STOP READING because this isn't an intellectual linear thing. Your dealing with "exploring" different states of beings and other sentient beings which makes measuring the probability tough. The only way you'll improve is by BEING a certain way for an extended period of time and see what experiences you have. From there you'll know whether things were profitable or not based on your goals, states of being you enjoy most, etc. This is why you heard me saying I always ask questions and my boy jared! stated he almost never asks questions.

I couldn't explain on the taxi ride since I never talk about this indepth stuff in real life BUT I ask questions because I'm sort of the supermodel that knows the person is trying to win me over and the whole time I'm just thinking "Yea there is a possibility that I'll allow you to take me home". I don't TRY or DO anything because I am the attraction, all I have to do is be how I enjoy being and let her stand in fascination hoping she gets selected. All the asking questions, challenging, accusing, etc is just manifestations of how I am. For instance last week while making out with this chick I simply stated "I know you stood right there hoping I'd meet you". You won't hear any of that from some pickup book nor would you hear "I'm so over 1 on 1 sex, I'm only capable of having 3somes and orgies". Simply hearing that without the WHY makes it seem extreme but in the case of the "orgy" line I simply wasn't willing to hookup with that chick and if she really wanted me that bad she would be willing to add her friends to the fun times. I've got a criteria an will wallk away from anything that doesn't make the cut.

Inner Game has been misinterpreted and understated because it's essentially what helps you find the state of beings you enjoy most. You will never need to know a single thing about bodylanguage or a technique because as you "BE" more and more, new expressions manifest which become YOUR personal techniques.

Sticking Point I Noticed
Logic, Logic, Logic, Logic...

Your best bet is to spend 30days learning to own the interaction and take it in whatever direction you want for the sake of your own entertainment...
1.  Go up with no thoughts whatsoever or pick a random word/theme to ramble on
-  Push the envelope seeing what you can get away with
-  Hear what you wanna hear and misinterpret things
-  Have an indescribable sense of assurance and be completely indifferent to both good and bad responses

2.  Approach and go for the makeout in less than 1min

The most important thing I ever learnt in all this is that people are reacting to your being as they see certain aspects and new possibilities of themselves. This is why I always think FUN FUN FUN because there is no one in life who doesn't want to have fun. When I roll up, the person is essentially turning down fun and I've seen too many experiences of people feeling like a dumbass for fucking up their opportunity to have fun. When I state fun, I mean all types of fun. (sex, group bonding, recreational competition, challenges, etc)

MYTHBUSTER
I can bet "all in" 100% of the time on this concept, sex isn't hard like the community makes it out to be, we just take sex too seriously instead of seeing it as this recreational thing. The community assumes attraction needs to be built, connection made, etc. Then some cheering frat boy walks by saying "Honey, I'm home!!" and makes out with the same chick some community guy spent 30mins building deep rapport with.  As I always say "It's all fun and games until someone gets fucked"...

I probably mentioned to you when we met, that I never used to drink and now I drink a shitload for the bonding/shared experience I have with those people who offered me the drink. Nowadays, although it was never intentional almost every chick who's gone out with me as a group couldn't remember the night due to having too much fun and not realizing they were past their drinking limit. From young college chicks to conservative principal of an elementary school.

One huge example, I was pulling these 2 chicks with a good friend once. I never spoke to them while inside the club because I was too busy laughing my ass off at the sight of me holding a champagne bottle, hearing good music and seeing these other 3 drunk dudes dancing up a storm. Outside the club one of the chicks was playing around with me stating I should go off and have fun with a champagne bottle. The context behind this interaction was like MANY previous situations where a chick happen to see me having a fucking blast and 100% of the time I've atleast fooled around with them.

When you are the creator of fun, you are the most powerful person socially because that's what socializing is all about the fun "back n forth". There is nothing logical about it.

P.S...You made a statement as to why you couldn't just roll up and be
genuine. Have you tried? As you seen my boy jared! he's pretty direct
about his intentions. The BIGGEST DIFFERENCE between success and failure is whether or not you have some form of depth/presence. I guess some will call it dominance but it's like you understand yourself so clearly that your expressions have some depth behind it. You know why you went up saying "Your fucking gorgeous, who are you?" instead of doing it just because you heard it on an audio. Few years back I remember approaching 30 women in less than 5mins in the daytime. All blew me out, I didn't notice at the time but I had no presence whatsoever that day and was just going through a soulless process.

Hope that helps, an text me anytime you have questions. Sometimes I'm waiting for the bus and willing to talk on the phone for a good 10-20mins...
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Less Logic more Inner Game


Logic Kills emotion

With no emotion there is no attraction or "feeling"


Its like a computer it was built to perform formula's, search and complete problems ...


Now think of a big nerd with a computer brain he is made or exists just to THINK LOGIC and avoid emotion


Trying to balance the two is a slippery slope in which case you probably won't profit from the outcome ...

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My fault I think me and DL did the same thing...


See what I DONT want to do is have you thinking negatively ESPECIALLY IN FIELD. Bcuz then you get into your head and this will pretty much end your night early.

What I am trying to say is just stop THINKING about the interaction. The conversation is just a conversation. You converse with people all the time ... @ Work, School, neighbors, family, friends ... So Don't make the conversation such a big deal. Talk to a girl like you would your boys, talk to her about anything that makes you comfortable even if it makes her UnCOmfortable.... Just try to stop thinking in the field. It fucks with you and will throw you off.

i will be out thursday ... we can see whats up then
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The way of the Superior Man - David Deida 




30 day Challenge of Debauchery   |     Las Vegas Bootcamp "I Have The FURY"


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