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I don't understand how you guys can down play how much help women need...
It doesn't occur to you that the chick you passed up at the store today, at the bar last week, in the park yesterday might need some help?
Oh poor me, I'm a pretty girl and guys everywhere want to buy me drinks and have sex with me.It doesn't occur to you that the chick you passed up at the store today, at the bar last week, in the park yesterday might need some help?
Ofcourse girls need help, they are for the most part entirely RETARDED. Rude unattractive behavior, flakey, superficial, the list goes on.
Girls have it easier when it comes to 'dating / relationships / getting laid'. Point blank PERIOD. If a girl were so inclined, she could pull home GOOD LOOKING guys any night she wants, even if she was average - to good looking, EASILY. It's called boobs, or more abrasive, vagina.
Girls put forth little to no initiative. Girls don't deal with constant rejection like men do. Girls have no idea how to flirt / contribute to a conversation. Maybe it's just where I live / age demographic. But girls have nothing to say. The rule for cold approach pickup is usually 90% conversational burden is on the guy.
Girls don't initiate physically.
You want to land a guy, do the OPPOSITE of everything you've been taught.
Call him first, text him first, KISS him first (that will win him...), approach him.
Guys are so used to being the agressor that it's a refreshing change of pace to have a girl pursue him.
Girls, socially, have it easier. A very good looking guy could walk into a bar alone and probably nobody would talk to him the entire night. An average looking girl could walk into a bar alone and would certainly be approached.
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Read my review of Get Laid or Die Trying
My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.
"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.
"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
My feeling is that the "market" is quite distorted.
Social conditioning and experience makes most guys shy, intimidated and needy. Now there are some dudes who go to RSD & competitors to learn techniques (some of which are called "natural") how to approach girls. They often overcome their approach anxiety, and I guess that at least! 80% of cold approaches out there are done by guys who learned or a still learning this skill set. Now, are they the better men? As a volunteer at the 2009 RSD World Summit, bootcamp participant and observer I of other bootcamps in Vegas I am inclines to say: no. They make the effort to improve this area of their life, that counts to their favour. But I also feel that guys who make this effort are often the most chody or most needy. The whole group is little bit above average, at best. Still, they do by far most of the cold approaches out there.
Thus, girls are permanently confronted with poor clones of Mystery, Tyler, Jeffy or David DeAngelo.
What I thought is: the female side should react. Develop sensitivity whether a guys play his pickup tricks on her to get sex, or if he has genuine interest in her. And unleran their female conditioning that the guy who are least fearful (west approaching) are the best. This is one quality amonst many, and not of such high value in modern times. Pickup artistery only works because women have their triggers that have been passed on subconsciously since thousands of Years. Attraction is not a choice? Well, it is! Just an unconscious one. So what would teach in such material for girls is, how to make this choise conscious and get immune to needy guys that use techniques or stlyes that make them appear cool. And turn out to be disappointing jerks.
Social conditioning and experience makes most guys shy, intimidated and needy. Now there are some dudes who go to RSD & competitors to learn techniques (some of which are called "natural") how to approach girls. They often overcome their approach anxiety, and I guess that at least! 80% of cold approaches out there are done by guys who learned or a still learning this skill set. Now, are they the better men? As a volunteer at the 2009 RSD World Summit, bootcamp participant and observer I of other bootcamps in Vegas I am inclines to say: no. They make the effort to improve this area of their life, that counts to their favour. But I also feel that guys who make this effort are often the most chody or most needy. The whole group is little bit above average, at best. Still, they do by far most of the cold approaches out there.
Thus, girls are permanently confronted with poor clones of Mystery, Tyler, Jeffy or David DeAngelo.
What I thought is: the female side should react. Develop sensitivity whether a guys play his pickup tricks on her to get sex, or if he has genuine interest in her. And unleran their female conditioning that the guy who are least fearful (west approaching) are the best. This is one quality amonst many, and not of such high value in modern times. Pickup artistery only works because women have their triggers that have been passed on subconsciously since thousands of Years. Attraction is not a choice? Well, it is! Just an unconscious one. So what would teach in such material for girls is, how to make this choise conscious and get immune to needy guys that use techniques or stlyes that make them appear cool. And turn out to be disappointing jerks.
I disagree entirely with your whole argument.
I had success with women before RSD and all its done is improve my female relations and get rid of all the weak areas such as neediness, AA and overall i now have fun with women as opposed to seeing it as me taking something from them. Obviously you've encountered some issues and bad experiances. I'm pretty sure the majority of the self help books we read on this forum could be of use to woman seeing as half of them are about improving your sex... Nobody on this forum uses routines or Pick up wizardry we're just a bunch of guys who want to improve our dating life. Sure there are exceptions, but it its not the majority. This community is awesome. Oviously you're just jealous cause you dont have a willy and join in on the fun (no homo) ;)
I had success with women before RSD and all its done is improve my female relations and get rid of all the weak areas such as neediness, AA and overall i now have fun with women as opposed to seeing it as me taking something from them. Obviously you've encountered some issues and bad experiances. I'm pretty sure the majority of the self help books we read on this forum could be of use to woman seeing as half of them are about improving your sex... Nobody on this forum uses routines or Pick up wizardry we're just a bunch of guys who want to improve our dating life. Sure there are exceptions, but it its not the majority. This community is awesome. Oviously you're just jealous cause you dont have a willy and join in on the fun (no homo) ;)
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"There's nobody out there who is willing to give up, what I'm willing to give up... The only thing that follows work, is results." - Ray Lewis
Yes true, I feel a certian jealousy when I go home from a club alone and see other guys taking girls home. Who doesn't? I wanted to be like those guys, and that's why I started reading Pickup advise.
I've been doing quite good oustide the club/ nightlife scene before; but I wanted to be a pimp in that area! And it even worked to a degree, I made some pulls.
But the price (for me) was, that I lost my old self - in which there was a chody part, of course. But there were other traits as well, that were quite attractive. Not to nightlife 10s, but to the girls I used to be with before. So I've traded nice reationships with "7s" against fun yet weird adeventures with 8s, 9s, whatever. I highy appreciate Jeffy's comment two pages before. This stuff helps you get laid - but it can be counterproductive if you want to have relationships. I did not realize that when I was entering this path. And if I had knewn that this side effect existed, I wouldn't have entered it.
Probably, I have a quite different idea of fun compared to most members of the "awesome community".
I've been doing quite good oustide the club/ nightlife scene before; but I wanted to be a pimp in that area! And it even worked to a degree, I made some pulls.
But the price (for me) was, that I lost my old self - in which there was a chody part, of course. But there were other traits as well, that were quite attractive. Not to nightlife 10s, but to the girls I used to be with before. So I've traded nice reationships with "7s" against fun yet weird adeventures with 8s, 9s, whatever. I highy appreciate Jeffy's comment two pages before. This stuff helps you get laid - but it can be counterproductive if you want to have relationships. I did not realize that when I was entering this path. And if I had knewn that this side effect existed, I wouldn't have entered it.
Probably, I have a quite different idea of fun compared to most members of the "awesome community".
RSD crew is comming up with a bootcamp/programs for bitches as well, its going to be called
Real
Slutty
Divas (or double d's theyre still deciding)
everyone will come up with new programs to match their own version for males,
Slutty Show 1 and 2,
Flawless Natural- how to get a man without surgically enhancing your boobs or to put simply...for those that dont live in L.A.
The Physical Game- No means no. make him wait, give him blue balls.
BDSM Decoded- no tag line yet, if you have one feel free to tell us.
so for all of you that have deleloped a pussy, dont lost heart. rsd will see to it that you get laid or at least fill out an application for you to become a nun.
Real
Slutty
Divas (or double d's theyre still deciding)
everyone will come up with new programs to match their own version for males,
Slutty Show 1 and 2,
Flawless Natural- how to get a man without surgically enhancing your boobs or to put simply...for those that dont live in L.A.
The Physical Game- No means no. make him wait, give him blue balls.
BDSM Decoded- no tag line yet, if you have one feel free to tell us.
so for all of you that have deleloped a pussy, dont lost heart. rsd will see to it that you get laid or at least fill out an application for you to become a nun.
I don't teach "love." I teach "how to get laid." In fact, I would probably the WORST guy you could come to for relationship advice.
So yes, to me the equivalent of "Rsd for girls" is "having a vagina."
This dude does.So yes, to me the equivalent of "Rsd for girls" is "having a vagina."
Real-Time Relationships by Stefan Molyneux
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Nice!
I don't teach "love." I teach "how to get laid." In fact, I would probably the WORST guy you could come to for relationship advice.
So yes, to me the equivalent of "Rsd for girls" is "having a vagina."
Well, when you put it that way... ... ... ... ... you're right. :)So yes, to me the equivalent of "Rsd for girls" is "having a vagina."
Its different for girls. We can't be satisified with just anyone's D. If we have to do it ourselves, then there was no point in getting laid in the first place. But you're right, we CAN get laid.
But if you guys want to pull 10s, there has to be a method of us girls to pull our kind of 10s.
Add to that the fact that most girls want a relationship; and it means that he not only has to be on top of being an alpha he has to be that rare species of alpha who actually wants to settle down and take care of a girl and love her for more than just her body. He has to be a guy who is a pro at being a player and a provider. That kind of 10 is the rarest type of human in existence if you ask me.
Us guys, we have it easy because all you need to be considered a 10 is to be a girl who is insanely sexy. For that, she just needs some luck and a gym membership.
Bottom line: Women who constitute a 10 for most men make up probably 10% of the female population.
Men who constitute a 10 for most women account for about 0.001% of all men.
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Seria mais fácil fazer como todo mundo faz.
O caminho mais curto, produto que rende mais
Mas nós vibramos em outra frequência,
sabemos que não é bem assim.
Se fosse fácil achar o caminho das pedras,
tantas pedras no caminho não seria ruim.
O caminho mais curto, produto que rende mais
Mas nós vibramos em outra frequência,
sabemos que não é bem assim.
Se fosse fácil achar o caminho das pedras,
tantas pedras no caminho não seria ruim.
bighawke5
Junior Member
Join Date: 09/15/2008 | Posts: 11
I think girls need to realize they won't get their "10" unless he thinks you're his "10", which is a greatly twisted way of seeing it, but what i'm saying is, unless he finds you as attractive as you find him, then you'll just be another girl he passes by to go to whomever he feels attracted to. This of course assuming the guy is not a pussy about approaching and getting what he wants.
Now there's nothing "game-like" a girl can do to attract that guy she likes, if he doesnt find her attractive. Now "game" is an expression of one's self, thus the girl can show her great personality but that may only lead her to the friend zone if the guy doesn't feel attracted to her. The saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder holds true here because you may think you're sexy as a girl, but you may not be attractive to that guy you find attractive.
The same way not every pick up artist can sleep with every girl he finds to be his "10".
The fact that many girls try to control, compete with men today doesn't help that matter either. For this to work in the dating scene at least, it requires the female to be a female and the male to be a male. Thats what creates attraction. When the girl tries to exert some type of control, or be domineering in some type of way or any other characteristic that fucks with the natural vibe b/w men and women, this hurts both sexes in the pursuit of connecting and watever else.