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May 24th, 2013
Scottsdale FR thread: want to be a champion
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scottsdale

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Thursday - Major LMR fuck close

Go over to a girls house, hung out with her on tuesday but we didnt do anything. But on thursday I go physical big time on her. Turns into a 3 hour cock tease. We are making out, things are hot and heavy, she keeps removing my hands when I'm feeling her up... Its just a long process of slowly getting her more and more aroused.
At one point I pull my dick out, she plays with it for awhile but keeps stopping... After a long time of her slowly jerking me, she completely stops, she is resisting fucking me so soon... I want to cry becuase I got jerked off the day before and didnt finish and now it was happening again the very next day, WTF... But I decide in my mind to be ultra cool, so I put my lame pathetic unused cock back into my shorts and just chill and leave her alone (this is after 2 hours of messing around).
She starts pursuing me and getting more physical... So I go in heavy on her again, get her topless, start dry humping like crazy.. She is moaning loud, got her legs wrapped tight around me. Her tits are beautiful, I keep telling her "This is crazy we arent doing this for real. It will be just like this but x1,000" ...She still wont fuck though... After some time I stand her up and turn her around so her back is pressed into my chest, I guess this was the winning positon, cause after that she let me do everything. Slid her shorts and panties down so she was completely naked - didn't want to chance wasting time, so I stuck it in bare, she was super wet, felt amazing.. Throw her on her back on the couch and keep fucking her, came in like 2 minutes!!! Shot all over her stomach, tits, face, hair, couch.... It was intense... 3 hours of teasing fourplay with some serious blue balls from the day before resulted in a cum blast of olympic standards. 

So the moral of the story...  Be a horny desperate freak that never gives up, I guess.

...I hang out with her for awhile after. We actually have alot of fun together. I turn 10x more charming once I'm relaxed and calm... So really girls should do themselves a favor and just fuck me quick, cause I'm so much cooler afterwards haha.

I had already made plans to go out infield so I leave her pad at about 10:30 and make it to the clubs close to midnight. I wanted to make sure I build momentum. So the first venue I do about 4 approaches basically back to back. I plow a super hottie in a seated mix set, which was cool, should have stayed in longer though... Then I bounce around different venues and open up here and there. I get pretty tired early on so I feel lazy and unsocial. I was opening pretty direct, and was getting a few "I got a boyfriend" right off the bat as a result, so thats a good sign I guess, means I'm a sexual threat.
All in all though I don't go hard enough - So I really have no results, but I didn't fully chode so thats ok - Gonna have to go harder tonight.

 
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Friday - girls having serious wardrobe malfunction night

Kinda feeling lame even updating this thread right now - buuuut trying to stay consistent.

Hit up old town about midnight with some wings. Do maybe a dozen legit approaches. Definitely not hitting hard like I want to, but whats weird is I wasn't really having AA per say, just not taking the action like I want to be taking... I seriously want to get to the point that I'm just like Bamm Bam Bam, into the next, then the next. So thats what my focus is gonna be on, its just hard as fuck to make yourself really take that much action. My body and mind just arent on that gameplan...Yet. I gotta get them there.

I had one really sweet interaction. Point at a girl - pull her in. We go ultra sexual and physical from the very beginning. It goes really good. Turns me on alot to have this girl in my arms. But this was really early in the night, and her 2 friends were just standing there watching us the whole time... I dont go for the pull... I think I just wanted a good interaction. Not playing to win, totally lame. So I number close her and thats it. Of course get no responses from her when I text her later in the night.

I did open some of the girls I was most attracted to. Often the hottest girls I wont even open because I'm too busy picking my jaw up off the floor or some shit. But I tried to open probably the hottest blonde in the venue, and she literally did a dodge move to get around me. Cool.

Had a couple of other girls ignore me pretty hard, kept trying to plow but finally ejected with my tail between my legs.

Overall it was pretty chill. Being ignored and rejected didnt really phase me. Like I said I wasn't really having AA - just lacking momentum.


post notes:
- The more action I take the more amazing the night will be. Taking action is simply an investment.
- Play to win... Fuck good interactions, or looking good to your friends. Close the girl.
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"Fuck good interactions, or looking good to your friends. Close the girl."
Euhm, u need the good interactions to keep the good emotions.. Otherwise u become bitter like I have by displaying too much intent..
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scottsdale wrote:

Wildchild! wrote:
scottsdale, do you drink at all anymore? I want to cut it out from my life 100% (despite continuing to party at bars etc)

also, im assuming you live in scottsdale arizona lol, hows the pick up scene
Nope I quit drinking 100% about 3 months ago. Its been tough basically "re-learning" to game sober - but I can tell in the long run it will be worth it. I feel really good now.

....And Scottsdale AZ is a badass nightclub scene. Very beautiful women in abundance and lots of clubs and bars and street game areas. Definitely a great city to be running game in. 



Well, if you dont mind me asking, how do you deal with things like girls trying to force drinks on you at clubs, or people buying you shots or w/e...are you just straight up honest about all of that? I want to stop drinking totally, the only thing is: i'm worried about meeting a girl, her liking me, her wanting to use alcohol as "social lubricant" to get us both drunk. or her worried about her being tipsy and me sober....you know, that stuff.

maybe it's a stupid thing to worry about
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#75

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Epi wrote:
"Fuck good interactions, or looking good to your friends. Close the girl."
Euhm, u need the good interactions to keep the good emotions.. Otherwise u become bitter like I have by displaying too much intent..

There's a problem if your overly reliant on having good interactions in order to have good emotions. If you can't see the joy in blowouts and rejections or take them too seriously then shit's gonna be a little harder for you. Learning to build momentum off blowouts and "bad" interactions is key. Although I definitely agree that good interactions are nice :)
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scottsdale wrote:

So really girls should do themselves a favor and just fuck me quick, cause I'm so much cooler afterwards haha.

Haha nice =)

That's legit you hit up the club after just banging a new girl. And how boss do you feel when you do!?!
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#77

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Solo & Sober? Thats cool man!

Your 3 hours foreplay report taught me something important about persistence since I use(d) to give up evertime it doesn´t work out the first time. Seems like investing some more time can make the difference. Thanks for that.
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Wildchild! wrote:

scottsdale wrote:

Wildchild! wrote:
scottsdale, do you drink at all anymore? I want to cut it out from my life 100% (despite continuing to party at bars etc)

also, im assuming you live in scottsdale arizona lol, hows the pick up scene
Nope I quit drinking 100% about 3 months ago. Its been tough basically "re-learning" to game sober - but I can tell in the long run it will be worth it. I feel really good now.

....And Scottsdale AZ is a badass nightclub scene. Very beautiful women in abundance and lots of clubs and bars and street game areas. Definitely a great city to be running game in. 



Well, if you dont mind me asking, how do you deal with things like girls trying to force drinks on you at clubs, or people buying you shots or w/e...are you just straight up honest about all of that? I want to stop drinking totally, the only thing is: i'm worried about meeting a girl, her liking me, her wanting to use alcohol as "social lubricant" to get us both drunk. or her worried about her being tipsy and me sober....you know, that stuff.

maybe it's a stupid thing to worry about
It's all pretty new territory for me.
I am pretty honest about it all and it really doesn't seem to be an issue at all. In fact sometimes if I hit the girl hard and the interaction is going really well I will somehow slip it in that I'm sober... It seems to really mind fuck them and displays alot of high value.

But often if the girl finds out I'm not drinking she will ask if I'm the DD, I just say yes and thats that.

I have had some interactions where I sensed the girl didn't respond well to me being sober. It never was a big deal, but I could tell it impacted it somehow. Still haven't figured that out fully yet. Like I said this is new territory.

Ask me this question in 6 months and I will likely have alot more first hand experience and beliefs on the topic. But for now just say fuck it, cause really I don't care if the girl likes it or not. I'm doing what I'm doing and the next girl is always a few feet away. I have nothing to lose.
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@epi and water
Good interactions are nice. But what the fuck do they mean? I still don't have her wet slippery pussy on me...  To step my game up I need to focus on playing to win, to be a closer. Not to settle for faggotry. 
I have to push myself - I'm really all I got for improvement.

@Lex
lol I have definitely had experiences where I felt like a boss afterwards. This however was not one of those nights. If anything it left me feeling drained and tired. Although I did have girls locking eye contact with me and focusing on me alot more. So it might have given me an added inner vibe... Due to non-neediness or some shit.
The more I'm in field, the more I believe in the "unseen" being important. Like girls can FEEL you on a deeper level. Like some sixth sense shit. I don't know, its odd but I cant help but feel that shit is for real.

@Bro
Yeah dude definitely not my first time to persist like that. Even in this FR thread I have posted a few other similar situations. I wrote up an article even called 'Trust in the Process' or something like that, all of it is basically about that very moment when it comes time to close. I have pushed through shit like that quiet a few times. But yeah this one was really ridiculous... Just remember, you will know when its a definite NO. But it was obvious really she wanted to fuck, she was horny, she liked me... She just didn't want to give it up so quick because of whatever social conditioning bullshit. Well thats pure shit and unacceptable to me. She got fucked.

   
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Saturday

Hit it up a bit earlier than usual this night. Its almost 11pm and the clubs are pretty much dead still. Go in with a wing. I'm resolved to go hard this night, but the first venue is so empty still and all the girls are hudled in their little packs or sitting at tables... It actually gives me some  AA to be in an envoirnment like this. My wing opens a few sets - right off the bat. I think I do a lame one but it doesn't open. I'm having trouble picking a set to approach. So my wing asks if I want to be pushed, I say sure... He points to the first set he see's... So I go in, its 2 chicks with a HUGE black dude. I go straight to the cutest one and open her. She is nice, have a normal conversation for about 5 minutes.
Exit that set... Wing my friend in a 2 set. The target is cute that he is talking to, I try and talk to the UG and she dismisses me. Do another approach, nothing going on.

We bounce to a different venue. This venue has got more people, I feel a bit more comfortable. Wing a 3 set. They are ugs but it was a longer interaction so it loosened me up. Hit up a group of hotties after that. Blowout.
Do a few more approaches and get blown out by each.

See a petite cutie dancing by herself with a bunch of dudes standing around watching her. Open her up with some weird hands raised in the air physciality. The set goes good. She looks like a tiny version of Tina Fey, really sexy. Lose her after some time.

Then I open a girl I had been seeing for awhile that was standing in a lounge area. She was a really short tiny petite hottie. I open indirect with some weird lameness but then switch it quick to meeting each other, I think I said she was cute. She is giggly and in to me. Start leading her around, being physical. She is visiting from vegas. Some reason I keep feeling like its wrong to esculate on her. She is with a large group of friends. I don't even try and isolate, which I knew was a mistake even while I was in set with her. My friend comes in and wings her closest friend that was next to her. After some time we have to leave to meet up with another one of our friends, I number close her.

...Meet up with our friend, go back to the original venue. Start opening. Get into an interaction with a tall blondie. She shit tests me when I ask her age... Get a bit too logical and dont lead pass the shit test, blowout.
Choding a bit. Not opening hard like I want to be.

Do two more sets - both more lengthy than usual - decent hookage, but I fade away from the not so attractive one and lose the hotter one due to trying too hard to keep it there.
Hit up a dancing girl, get physically tooled by some guy she is with...
Then go straight into a super cute blonde. By far the hottest girl I even approached all night. From what I remember I approach with "This whole place is filled with fucking faggots, good luck trying to score some dick tonight, all these guys are just gonna fuck each other", she laughs. Then I continue on "but what do I know, for some reason girls love fucking faggots". She starts playing with my nipples lol. The interaction stays strong and hooked for awhile, we both goto the bar together to get water, she orders a beer while we are at it. Eventually I think I start going into my head cause she was so damn hot. The interaction starts to kind of stagnate, probably cause I aint esculating.. Fuck... I lead her around and isolate her from her friends. But the magic is dwindling. So I number close it. I just aint cool enough with her to keep building attraction. I can see it.

She goes back to her friends and I see my friend in a 2 set that I had opened earlier.. Go in and wing him. The interaction is really good. I can tell she is really into me, but she isnt hot enough (especially after the blonde just before that worked for a fucking modeling agency.. damn), but I shouldve pushed it further with her, or at least number close it. Especially after feeling that she wasnt wearing any panties, kinda turned me on. Whatever.
We leave to hit up a venue that stays open late. At this point I pretty much state crash (not sure if I ever had state anyhow). My body is tired and I'm done. I still do maybe 7 approaches there, but nothing even opens up for me. Major suckage.

post notes:
- I'm struggling with entitlement always. Not much more to be said about that, other than it sucks.
- I'm TRYING too hard most of the time. I need to CHILLLL and go ultra normal. Not too long ago (when I was still drinking) I was getting amazing results just by not trying anymore. Need to get back to that.
- need to care less about my image. I'm a horny fuck that wants to play around with alot of different girls - and really I restrict myself cause I dont want to be judged (mostly by myself). For example with the girl with no panties, yeah she wasnt a hottie but she was ok. Regardless we had chemistry and she was arousing me - shouldve been playing with her. But I dont do it because I CARE what people think too much. Serious lameness. Not only do I want to be experiencing her more, but it will likely help me pimp the hotter chicks anyhow.
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