THE FORUMS
Thanks bro. Glad to be spreading some value.
Yeah definitely man. You know RSD doesn't really preach this too much anymore (or at least they dont use this terminology) but it used to be all about PLOWING. And in a form this is all it really is, just plowing til you close. For me thats where trusting in the process really comes into play, when it comes closing time and she is giving me LMR.
Like one of my last LR's where she was giving me hardcore LMR, she said at one point "I'm sorry but you're not getting lucky tonight", and I literally verbally challenged that with something like "eh, maybe, but the nights not over yet".... haha, shit like that I would have avoided in the past (for good reason) but who cares anymore. Anything can work.
So yeah trusting in the process is a closing mindset. Early on when approaching and running sets etc trusting in the process doesnt really play a part in that for me as much I guess because I'm just going through the motions.
Thanks for reading!
Yeah definitely man. You know RSD doesn't really preach this too much anymore (or at least they dont use this terminology) but it used to be all about PLOWING. And in a form this is all it really is, just plowing til you close. For me thats where trusting in the process really comes into play, when it comes closing time and she is giving me LMR.
Like one of my last LR's where she was giving me hardcore LMR, she said at one point "I'm sorry but you're not getting lucky tonight", and I literally verbally challenged that with something like "eh, maybe, but the nights not over yet".... haha, shit like that I would have avoided in the past (for good reason) but who cares anymore. Anything can work.
So yeah trusting in the process is a closing mindset. Early on when approaching and running sets etc trusting in the process doesnt really play a part in that for me as much I guess because I'm just going through the motions.
Thanks for reading!
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another props for the trust the process article.
its like an instructor level report.
its like an instructor level report.
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The game is designed for you to be exactly what you think you are. ~ Rosebudd Bitterdose
The game is designed for you to be exactly what you think you are. ~ Rosebudd Bitterdose
another props for the trust the process article.
its like an instructor level report.
Thanks, appreciate it man. its like an instructor level report.
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Saturday Oct 29th - Halloween Weekend
Once again working all week, get back into town in time for one night out. This weekend was a bit different though that I was travelling around doing alot of stuff with buddies, meeting lots of new people and on the constant go for a couple days straight... Sleep? I dont even know what that word means anymore.
But meeting all the new people and hanging out this weekend got my social momentum going early. On friday night I was in California somewhere in the desert sleeping on the bare ground curled up next to the campfire. By Saturday night I was back in the valley ready to hit Mill Ave for the halloween specials. Crazy weekend.
Early saturday night I meet some new peeps, friends of my friends, They take me to a little Halloween house party that consisted of 7 dudes and 3 hot ass girls that are all strippers, and they had all the alcohol in the world.
Its been so long since I been in a "warm" social situation that I forgot how cool it can be.
almost instantly after meeting everyone I pretty much get isolated with all 3 girls playing beer pong with them. One of the dudes who was obviously in with one of the girls before I showed up gets all defensive and tries talking shit... I just stay chill and unreactive to him. I pair up to be partners with the girl he wanted. Essentially he blows himself out by trying to blow me out. Of course this makes me look good, she likes me. He loses.
After about 10 minutes I got a good rapport going on with 2 of the girls. They start grinding up on me, flirting with each other... They were freaking sexy, and all dressed up in their titty poppin costumes. Actually I didnt know they were all strippers until someone told me after we left.
I dont actually do much, I'm barely talking at all, kicking ass in beer pong however (pshh I got the skillz). Just remaining relaxed and normal is enough to display value... Not really sure why but the girls were just into me. I eventually get isolated with the one I like and we are just chatting right when my buddy comes and grabs me to leave... We had to leave to meet up with some other dudes. Sucked because it was on with her... and maybe with all of them. You know how you just know its on? It was on.
I say my goodbyes, I'm actually sad to be leaving. I can tell the main girl is sad too. I did not number close... Getting tired of number closing and not doing anything about it (cause im out of town all week), and also something about the setup made me lean more towards just walking away... Fucking hot strippers tho!!
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Mill Ave
Meet up with a group of other dudes. All college students, most of them ex-military. pretty cool guys.
Head out to Mill ave, grab a hotel room and are on the streets headed towards the club late at around midnight.
Love halloween weekend. Fuckin Bunnies!!!!!
Roll into the club. Grab a drink. Feeling social and free already. hit up a couple of girls, just quick interactions mostly about their costumes. I do believe I approached a girl with "Are you tall enough to ride this ride?", haha.
See 3 girls on the dancefloor, two tiny latinas and a tall blonde in a sexy girly baseball uniform. Hour glass figure, nice.
I grab some dudes from the group and point to the blonde "That one is mine". I roll right up on her and open her with something about her team didnt even get to the playoffs or some shit.... We start talking and cannot hear each other AT ALL. This goes on for awhile with alot of awkward what's and huh's.. Can't even get her name right so I make her take out her I.D. so I can read her name.
Grab her by the hand and lead her outside to the patio so we can talk... I see all my buddies out of the corner of my eye cheering me on. I was thinking "oh yeah, those guys".. I'm so used to going out solo anymore I forgot I had friends there.
Get out to the patio to chat. After a bit I start pulling her in to hug her. I try to make her reciprocate but she wont hug me back. I grab her arms and start teaching her how to hug me... She is giggling and claiming "Omg this is awkward" ..whatever...
Up to this point everything has been awkward and totally fucked up - EXCEPT for my internal vibe, I just didnt give a fuck. And that is enough to make it work... It just made her giggle alot and hook like crazy.
After some time I pull her back to her friends and number close her (so I can text her later if need be), I wanted to find my friends.
Looking for my friends I just end up running into her again and she leaps over to me. So I chill with her some more. Start getting more and more physical with her. Take her to the bar with me so I can get myself two drinks (yeah double fist it!). She starts freaking on me at the bar. Start going for the makeout, she is resisting. So I start biting her ears and neck.. She pushes away from everything.
Pull her to another part of the bar and push her up against a wall. Start going alot more physical. She still resists the makeout etc... Find her friends start dancing with them. She is grinding all over my hard dick. I keep trying to rub her pussy, she is slapping my hand away, but still giggling.
I remember now that through out the interaction I would just blatantly say things like "We just met tonight and youre totally gonna be sucking my dick later, this is crazy!" She would laugh at it. But I dont know if its good to be saying shit like that or not, kinda weird ya know.
She keeps resisting any of my bold moves. I'm actually doing a bit of push/pull and getting more and more with every pull.
I eventually grab her and pull her out of the dancefloor and wall slam her again. I'm FINALLY starting to get the hint that she aint down for a SNL. My game isnt so tight, I think at this point I should have already ejected on her and move on to a more down girl. But she is hot and I remain for the challenge.
I'm basically molesting her now, My hands are all over her body. We are clinged onto each other. She is hugging all over me but wont makeout. And she pulls away quickly everytime I place her hand on my dick.
(god, could you imagine my mother reading my Field Reports?? just a random thought.... anyhow)
I then go for a big take away, and start walking away from her backwards. She is just staring at me with a sad face... An asian girl walks by right in front of me. I grab the asian girl and start talking to her. The asian actually beams at me and is really open. I notice my blonde watching us and can tell she is actually shocked that I'm talking to another girl.
Somehow Asian girl leaves and I start walking away and now Blondie is following me actually tugging on my shirt. So I wall slam her a fuckin third time and she still wont kiss me. Fuck that. I eject her "Go back to your friends I need to find mine (friends)" and I walk away.
I see my friend and realize its almost closing time. My first real open eneded up being over an hour long set. So I grab him and tell him we are getting girls... None of these dudes approach, they probably dont even realize its possible, especially to the extent that your average community player is doing it.
First set I see, Two sexy latinas and some big dude talking to them. I roll up on one of the girls, Like I come in on her strong but I'm also leaning back totally chilled against the wall. The other girl and the guy go into spectator mode. My friend vanishes haha... And after a minute the guy starts saying some shit like "You got these girls handled dude? You got this taken care of right?" he is patting me on the back all hard. I just tell him "Yeah I got them handled" and he walks away...
The other girl vanishes too so I move in really close to the latina. She is already hooking and giggling.
After a few minutes of chatting, blondie shows up out of nowhere and tells me she is leaving, once again she is all shocked I'm in with another chick. She is also cock blocking me... I'm just saying "Oh ok, bye, be safe" haha what a dick... I know she wanted me to pursue her more (and maybe that would have resulted in a close? leaving with her,, i dont know) but I was done with her. She left.
Then in with the latina some friends come in and pull her away. Not so easily though, she didnt want to leave and I was fighting for her....
This is right when the venue closed. I want to wrap this up quickly so to make a long story short, I find my friends, dont really do any street game. Try texting blondie - here is some of the texts
Me: Stop teasing me dammit. Where are you?
Blondie: I left headed to car
Me: come back now
Blondie: haha ur funny u think I listen to u
Me: Obviously not
Blondie: lol no I'm gtn ready to drive
hour later she texts me
Blondie: Still hate me?
Me: Kinda. You left me
Blondie: U were hitting on someone, I wasn't gonna mess up ur game
Me: Nah just being social. You were not being social
Me: So where are you? we should be together
Blondie: U mean I was not a cumdumpster (she joked about me using her as a cumdumpster earlier and I said "no, I use condoms")
Blondie: I'm at my apartment
Me: Can I come over?
Blondie: I would have to decline its 330, u hv been drinking and just met me. I can only assume what your intentions are, and thats not how I am
Me: How are you? And don't be silly. I just want to see you.
Then she goes on with the blah blah blah I'm not that kind of girl, I actually respect myself. And then she tells me that she really liked me and thought I was funny, normal and really easy to talk to. So that affirmed what I was thinking early on and why I was ejecting her, cause she was framing me as boyfriend material. So I just play it cool and tell her I would like to see her again and goodnight.
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So in summary;
I guess that was an "on" night since almost every one of the girls I opened hooked. But still didnt get a lay.
Its been like 3 weeks maybe since my last lay. Damnnn... Typically most my lays come from day2's but since I'm working so much out of town I can't day2 during the week. And I dont want to day2 on the weekend cause I need atleast ONE night a week to go out.
So I'm deciding to keep mushing on like it is and just start pulling ONS or die trying. Getting more consistent with ONS's was one of my goals anyhow and I'm starting to see that alot of it has to do with selection process now. I need to screen early on and eject like ice whenever I feel the heat. Pretty much fuck phone numbers except to use them as a "safety line" if we somehow get split up that night.
Also I need to keep pushing on day game and getting results for when I'm out of town. There are girls here its just challenging as fuck. But getting better at day game was also a goal of mine, so time to face the music.
Whats funny is all the goals I set are becoming crucial cause my life situation is making me rely on those areas for any type of success... Law attraction at work here maybe? I'm game for it. I want to reach the next level.
Once again working all week, get back into town in time for one night out. This weekend was a bit different though that I was travelling around doing alot of stuff with buddies, meeting lots of new people and on the constant go for a couple days straight... Sleep? I dont even know what that word means anymore.
But meeting all the new people and hanging out this weekend got my social momentum going early. On friday night I was in California somewhere in the desert sleeping on the bare ground curled up next to the campfire. By Saturday night I was back in the valley ready to hit Mill Ave for the halloween specials. Crazy weekend.
Early saturday night I meet some new peeps, friends of my friends, They take me to a little Halloween house party that consisted of 7 dudes and 3 hot ass girls that are all strippers, and they had all the alcohol in the world.
Its been so long since I been in a "warm" social situation that I forgot how cool it can be.
almost instantly after meeting everyone I pretty much get isolated with all 3 girls playing beer pong with them. One of the dudes who was obviously in with one of the girls before I showed up gets all defensive and tries talking shit... I just stay chill and unreactive to him. I pair up to be partners with the girl he wanted. Essentially he blows himself out by trying to blow me out. Of course this makes me look good, she likes me. He loses.
After about 10 minutes I got a good rapport going on with 2 of the girls. They start grinding up on me, flirting with each other... They were freaking sexy, and all dressed up in their titty poppin costumes. Actually I didnt know they were all strippers until someone told me after we left.
I dont actually do much, I'm barely talking at all, kicking ass in beer pong however (pshh I got the skillz). Just remaining relaxed and normal is enough to display value... Not really sure why but the girls were just into me. I eventually get isolated with the one I like and we are just chatting right when my buddy comes and grabs me to leave... We had to leave to meet up with some other dudes. Sucked because it was on with her... and maybe with all of them. You know how you just know its on? It was on.
I say my goodbyes, I'm actually sad to be leaving. I can tell the main girl is sad too. I did not number close... Getting tired of number closing and not doing anything about it (cause im out of town all week), and also something about the setup made me lean more towards just walking away... Fucking hot strippers tho!!
.....
Mill Ave
Meet up with a group of other dudes. All college students, most of them ex-military. pretty cool guys.
Head out to Mill ave, grab a hotel room and are on the streets headed towards the club late at around midnight.
Love halloween weekend. Fuckin Bunnies!!!!!
Roll into the club. Grab a drink. Feeling social and free already. hit up a couple of girls, just quick interactions mostly about their costumes. I do believe I approached a girl with "Are you tall enough to ride this ride?", haha.
See 3 girls on the dancefloor, two tiny latinas and a tall blonde in a sexy girly baseball uniform. Hour glass figure, nice.
I grab some dudes from the group and point to the blonde "That one is mine". I roll right up on her and open her with something about her team didnt even get to the playoffs or some shit.... We start talking and cannot hear each other AT ALL. This goes on for awhile with alot of awkward what's and huh's.. Can't even get her name right so I make her take out her I.D. so I can read her name.
Grab her by the hand and lead her outside to the patio so we can talk... I see all my buddies out of the corner of my eye cheering me on. I was thinking "oh yeah, those guys".. I'm so used to going out solo anymore I forgot I had friends there.
Get out to the patio to chat. After a bit I start pulling her in to hug her. I try to make her reciprocate but she wont hug me back. I grab her arms and start teaching her how to hug me... She is giggling and claiming "Omg this is awkward" ..whatever...
Up to this point everything has been awkward and totally fucked up - EXCEPT for my internal vibe, I just didnt give a fuck. And that is enough to make it work... It just made her giggle alot and hook like crazy.
After some time I pull her back to her friends and number close her (so I can text her later if need be), I wanted to find my friends.
Looking for my friends I just end up running into her again and she leaps over to me. So I chill with her some more. Start getting more and more physical with her. Take her to the bar with me so I can get myself two drinks (yeah double fist it!). She starts freaking on me at the bar. Start going for the makeout, she is resisting. So I start biting her ears and neck.. She pushes away from everything.
Pull her to another part of the bar and push her up against a wall. Start going alot more physical. She still resists the makeout etc... Find her friends start dancing with them. She is grinding all over my hard dick. I keep trying to rub her pussy, she is slapping my hand away, but still giggling.
I remember now that through out the interaction I would just blatantly say things like "We just met tonight and youre totally gonna be sucking my dick later, this is crazy!" She would laugh at it. But I dont know if its good to be saying shit like that or not, kinda weird ya know.
She keeps resisting any of my bold moves. I'm actually doing a bit of push/pull and getting more and more with every pull.
I eventually grab her and pull her out of the dancefloor and wall slam her again. I'm FINALLY starting to get the hint that she aint down for a SNL. My game isnt so tight, I think at this point I should have already ejected on her and move on to a more down girl. But she is hot and I remain for the challenge.
I'm basically molesting her now, My hands are all over her body. We are clinged onto each other. She is hugging all over me but wont makeout. And she pulls away quickly everytime I place her hand on my dick.
(god, could you imagine my mother reading my Field Reports?? just a random thought.... anyhow)
I then go for a big take away, and start walking away from her backwards. She is just staring at me with a sad face... An asian girl walks by right in front of me. I grab the asian girl and start talking to her. The asian actually beams at me and is really open. I notice my blonde watching us and can tell she is actually shocked that I'm talking to another girl.
Somehow Asian girl leaves and I start walking away and now Blondie is following me actually tugging on my shirt. So I wall slam her a fuckin third time and she still wont kiss me. Fuck that. I eject her "Go back to your friends I need to find mine (friends)" and I walk away.
I see my friend and realize its almost closing time. My first real open eneded up being over an hour long set. So I grab him and tell him we are getting girls... None of these dudes approach, they probably dont even realize its possible, especially to the extent that your average community player is doing it.
First set I see, Two sexy latinas and some big dude talking to them. I roll up on one of the girls, Like I come in on her strong but I'm also leaning back totally chilled against the wall. The other girl and the guy go into spectator mode. My friend vanishes haha... And after a minute the guy starts saying some shit like "You got these girls handled dude? You got this taken care of right?" he is patting me on the back all hard. I just tell him "Yeah I got them handled" and he walks away...
The other girl vanishes too so I move in really close to the latina. She is already hooking and giggling.
After a few minutes of chatting, blondie shows up out of nowhere and tells me she is leaving, once again she is all shocked I'm in with another chick. She is also cock blocking me... I'm just saying "Oh ok, bye, be safe" haha what a dick... I know she wanted me to pursue her more (and maybe that would have resulted in a close? leaving with her,, i dont know) but I was done with her. She left.
Then in with the latina some friends come in and pull her away. Not so easily though, she didnt want to leave and I was fighting for her....
This is right when the venue closed. I want to wrap this up quickly so to make a long story short, I find my friends, dont really do any street game. Try texting blondie - here is some of the texts
Me: Stop teasing me dammit. Where are you?
Blondie: I left headed to car
Me: come back now
Blondie: haha ur funny u think I listen to u
Me: Obviously not
Blondie: lol no I'm gtn ready to drive
hour later she texts me
Blondie: Still hate me?
Me: Kinda. You left me
Blondie: U were hitting on someone, I wasn't gonna mess up ur game
Me: Nah just being social. You were not being social
Me: So where are you? we should be together
Blondie: U mean I was not a cumdumpster (she joked about me using her as a cumdumpster earlier and I said "no, I use condoms")
Blondie: I'm at my apartment
Me: Can I come over?
Blondie: I would have to decline its 330, u hv been drinking and just met me. I can only assume what your intentions are, and thats not how I am
Me: How are you? And don't be silly. I just want to see you.
Then she goes on with the blah blah blah I'm not that kind of girl, I actually respect myself. And then she tells me that she really liked me and thought I was funny, normal and really easy to talk to. So that affirmed what I was thinking early on and why I was ejecting her, cause she was framing me as boyfriend material. So I just play it cool and tell her I would like to see her again and goodnight.
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So in summary;
I guess that was an "on" night since almost every one of the girls I opened hooked. But still didnt get a lay.
Its been like 3 weeks maybe since my last lay. Damnnn... Typically most my lays come from day2's but since I'm working so much out of town I can't day2 during the week. And I dont want to day2 on the weekend cause I need atleast ONE night a week to go out.
So I'm deciding to keep mushing on like it is and just start pulling ONS or die trying. Getting more consistent with ONS's was one of my goals anyhow and I'm starting to see that alot of it has to do with selection process now. I need to screen early on and eject like ice whenever I feel the heat. Pretty much fuck phone numbers except to use them as a "safety line" if we somehow get split up that night.
Also I need to keep pushing on day game and getting results for when I'm out of town. There are girls here its just challenging as fuck. But getting better at day game was also a goal of mine, so time to face the music.
Whats funny is all the goals I set are becoming crucial cause my life situation is making me rely on those areas for any type of success... Law attraction at work here maybe? I'm game for it. I want to reach the next level.
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Reading that last FR again, I completely went about the interaction wrong... Either I should've nexted her a lot quicker or I shouldve chilled out big time and let her game me more, just let things flow naturally. I was too forceful and sexual which is fine if you are playing by the rules, but with her it was wrong.
Its not that I fucked things up with her, its just that I didnt get what I wanted... I dont think I could do anything wrong in her eyes. I could say and do whatever I want essentially and get away with it, she will still be there.. yet I cant get her to even makeout? I guess some girls will not makeout in the club.
If I had nexted her earlier I couldve moved on to more girls... However I think now if I had down shifted to chill mode and just hang with her and make her invest more I think I could have been going home with her that night... Or maybe not down shift but just stay with her. Its like I realized I should've nexted her a long time ago do then I did it too late which was an error...
My game is progressing at least.
...Me and blondie been texting. Could easily Day2 it and get shit done if I was around... I wish.
Also here where I work during the weeks I'm starting to get something going with my neighbor. She is cute, younger, we text but she wont hangout. She also freezes out when I flirt or go sexual too much... I dont know if I even want to hook up with a girl that lives next door... Maybe I do I guess, why not. From here on out I'm planning to go full blown normal/friendly on her to get some real hangout time and then see how things go.... Gotta get some things rolling here in this town.
Its not that I fucked things up with her, its just that I didnt get what I wanted... I dont think I could do anything wrong in her eyes. I could say and do whatever I want essentially and get away with it, she will still be there.. yet I cant get her to even makeout? I guess some girls will not makeout in the club.
If I had nexted her earlier I couldve moved on to more girls... However I think now if I had down shifted to chill mode and just hang with her and make her invest more I think I could have been going home with her that night... Or maybe not down shift but just stay with her. Its like I realized I should've nexted her a long time ago do then I did it too late which was an error...
My game is progressing at least.
...Me and blondie been texting. Could easily Day2 it and get shit done if I was around... I wish.
Also here where I work during the weeks I'm starting to get something going with my neighbor. She is cute, younger, we text but she wont hangout. She also freezes out when I flirt or go sexual too much... I dont know if I even want to hook up with a girl that lives next door... Maybe I do I guess, why not. From here on out I'm planning to go full blown normal/friendly on her to get some real hangout time and then see how things go.... Gotta get some things rolling here in this town.
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I had sex
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Serious update here - -
I'm FINALLY... Moving. Back. To. The. FUCKING CITY!!!!!
Moving into a house tomorrow that is within 5 minutes of ALL the clubs and bars I frequent. Hells yeah! I've never lived this close to any of the action areas. I'm usually atleast an hour away. Its been like this for a long time. I dont know what this is gonna do for my game.... But, I think if I keep my pace shit is gonna get intense.
Another cool update to report is that I havent had a drink in almost 2 months, which is a very big deal to me. As I have posted several times in this thread that gaming 100% sober is one of my goals, well I been living that goal for awhile now. Also I been going out pretty much Solo... Solo + Sober = Holy shit.
Already though its feeling pretty normal. I don't really crave drinking anymore (except for when I was in Vegas last week).
So yeah I'm gonna start updating this thread again. Considering a 30 day challenge since I'm actually IN TOWN now. I'm excited for this shit!
Sober solo times ahead
I'm FINALLY... Moving. Back. To. The. FUCKING CITY!!!!!
Moving into a house tomorrow that is within 5 minutes of ALL the clubs and bars I frequent. Hells yeah! I've never lived this close to any of the action areas. I'm usually atleast an hour away. Its been like this for a long time. I dont know what this is gonna do for my game.... But, I think if I keep my pace shit is gonna get intense.
Another cool update to report is that I havent had a drink in almost 2 months, which is a very big deal to me. As I have posted several times in this thread that gaming 100% sober is one of my goals, well I been living that goal for awhile now. Also I been going out pretty much Solo... Solo + Sober = Holy shit.
Already though its feeling pretty normal. I don't really crave drinking anymore (except for when I was in Vegas last week).
So yeah I'm gonna start updating this thread again. Considering a 30 day challenge since I'm actually IN TOWN now. I'm excited for this shit!
Sober solo times ahead
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Within 5 minutes of EVERYTHING.
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