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May 19th, 2013
Scottsdale FR thread: want to be a champion
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#61
LethalLex

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Oh snap those are some good points from the hotseat.

Cool journal too :)
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Wildchild!

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scottsdale, do you drink at all anymore? I want to cut it out from my life 100% (despite continuing to party at bars etc)

also, im assuming you live in scottsdale arizona lol, hows the pick up scene
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scottsdale

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Wildchild! wrote:
scottsdale, do you drink at all anymore? I want to cut it out from my life 100% (despite continuing to party at bars etc)

also, im assuming you live in scottsdale arizona lol, hows the pick up scene
Nope I quit drinking 100% about 3 months ago. Its been tough basically "re-learning" to game sober - but I can tell in the long run it will be worth it. I feel really good now.

....And Scottsdale AZ is a badass nightclub scene. Very beautiful women in abundance and lots of clubs and bars and street game areas. Definitely a great city to be running game in. 
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Sunday after Hot Seat day 2

Hit up the only venue that is good on Sunday nights around 12:00 a.m.. I can already tell I feel chode. Its like a tight feeling in my chest, and the thought of approaching girls all night sounded terrible.

Started approaching here and there - not hardcore enough. Nothing good happens,, chodey interactions. I kept thinking about what to say during the opening... What the fuck

I feel like the night is shit and I kinda want to just leave. Get a couple of interactions under my belt where I just talk very normal and friendly. Of course they dont go anywhere, but the girls are atleast friendly and allow the conversation to last for a bit since I'm being chill and normal.

I still keep choding and walking around too long between sets... Go to the dance floor and stand off to the side and really just clear my head. Try and rid all thoughts from my mind. It actually relaxes me alot. And I go on a short burst of opening 4 sets in a row. nothing special, just quick bang bang from one to the next. I step back after those 4 sets and notice a differance in my state, I'm feeling good.

This carries me through a few more opens until at one point state just floods in and I feel good and I'm having fun.

It took over an hour of approaching before I could hit any kind of state, but it did happen, I seriously doubted at one point that it was even possible to hit state at this night... But the process came through. Just like was discussed in hot seat, focus only on the momentum building process - get destroyed and hit a low before the state will come rushing in.  And before I knew it I had a really cute girl in my arms... Almost an instant makeout with her. She was pretty drunk though and I let her go.... A few more strong approaches and openings.

Open a girl on the dancefloor, go very physical on her. Cant remember at all what I opened with, fuck it who cares. We talk for a bit on the dancefloor she is visiting from San Fran, kinda go for the makeout but she is not having it. After some time I pull her outside to the balcony and pin her against the wall. We are still physical, I'm talking alot, talking some shit too. She glances at my lips alot but I stop trying to go for the makeout. At one point I look over and right next to me Tyler is in set. I didn't think he would be going out this night so it was cool to see him again....
San Frans friend comes up all frantic and says their other friend is puking, and she steals her away from me... Do some more approaches. Re-open this one chick that was hooked pretty well earlier, and she says she saw me with another girl running the same game on her - Thought that was kinda cool actually. A guy comes and steals her away, pretty sneakily at that too...

Re-open San Fran - things are going well between us, but she wants me to buy her a drink, I dont buy her a drink but tell her to make some faggot buy one for her. She leaves to try and talk to a nearby guy into buying her a drink. Tyler walks by a bit later and I tell him breifly what is going on between me and the San Fran girl, he offers some advice and right then she happens to walk by with her friend and 2 guys and pinches my butt. She keeps walking but I hold out my hand to her and pull her into me... Tyler leans in and says "Get that"... Never saw him again.
Me and San Fran are very physical with each other, she is attracted, but she just isnt down for a pull I guess - or meeting up later. She is leaving in the morning back to Cali. I let her go, after having to pull her back away from her group of friends over and over again.

Do some more approaches, including one yelling at this crazy bitch dancing on the poles. A much different state from what I started with earlier in the night. The momentum process is real. Tight!
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Do you think you could have bought her a drink and still been good in that set?
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#66

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re: hot seat notes


my Takeaway from your Takeaway lol

build momentum/state , fullon expressoion, be polarizing.
strongest frame and self belief reality wins.

betachodedom has no place in pua. be cutthroat.
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Courage wrote:
Do you think you could have bought her a drink and still been good in that set?
Dude, Hell no. I might have been able to be a bit cooler about it, like "Well since I dont believe in drinking I dont really like contributing to others drinking, but you are more than welcome to help yourself", you know maybe something like that (that sounds judgemental actually)... Although I think what I did, which was "Make that fucking faggot right there buy you a drink" and then pushed her towards him, literally thats what I did, I think that was kinda fucking sweet hahaha! If anything it was funny to me.

But the thing with her is I was already screening and probing for the pull a lot earlier. Even though she was attracted I still wasnt hitting her fully or something. So I already felt like my chances with her were pretty slim. I was definitely more the Seller in this interaction rather then the Buyer.... I felt like her frame was 'This guy is exciting and kinda arousing, but I aint fucking him', and that was that.

Also on top of that I just never buy girls drinks. I aint cheap. But I just never do it with girls cause it puts you too much into that role. A few month ago I was in a good set with these two girls. One was super into me, they were both really cool. We were right by the bar, and one girl was about to order a drink so I decided just as a friendly sign of respect to buy them both a drink, I was thinking nah its cool... But seriously just as the bartender was handing over the drinks I could see out of my peripheral one girl whisper into the others ear... fuuuuuck. Right when they take the shots, they turn and leave and the girl looks back "We are just going to the bathroom"... Not even a fucking Thank you!.... I learned my lesson again right then and there after years of following my own rules. If I hadnt of bought them a drink who knows where the set would have went to - but just because I played that supplicating fucking bitch role to them (I wasnt, but thats how they see it) they run away. They are conditioned to do this.... Honestly I'm sure there are times when buying the girl a drink would be ok, some girls are not terrible little fucking whores lol. But why play that role? And it costs you money.

Annnd if that wasnt enough, Earlier last night when I was still choding around I watched these two super hot asian bitches that were owning the dancefloor decide they wanted a drink, so as they were walking up to the bar the one girl seriously just grabs some random dudes arm... Just a totally random dude that even had his back turned. Dude she didnt even fucking LOOK AT HIM! She just grabbed and dragged him up to the bar without saying a word. And I could see his face like, wtf. Then when they get up to the bar I see her start smiling at him asking for a drink. And he does it, boom they are back on the dancefloor without even saying bye or thanks to him and that dude is probably $15 broker... The poor fucking chode, yet he deserves it cause he is a little bitch... So even though I was laughing at that whole situation it also rekindled my general bitterness of buying girls a drink. So later on with San Fran I absolutely was not gonna buy her a drink. Dude, hell no.
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hamiltonontariopua

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Yea dude i fucking love that line 'nah go make that faggot buy you a drink' and shoving her away from you and towards him.

I dont get asked to buy drinks too often but when i have in the past i havent had a great response to it... althought I've said before a few times "oh your one of these fucking drink hustlers, cut the shit, I thought you were real!"

I'm going to start using ur 'nah make that faggot buy you a drink' with the shove away.... probbaly pull her right back in if she actually goes to leave and be like "nope im not done with you" and maybe "we can get drinks at my place but not now its too early so you gotta chill out drink hustler ;)"

haha i dont know..

Ps. loving the Field reports I stumbled upon your thread after reading ur hotseat review. Thanks.
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#69

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Join Date: 02/13/2011 | Posts: 257

how many nights are busy in scottsdale?

and where the best place to live around there?

im looking into places to go after grad, this place sounds pretty good.. plus to get away from canada cold for a little would be stellar.

thanks.. love the solo work
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scottsdale

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just wrote up a lenghty report here.. then somehow lost it all just as I was about to post it. Fuck.

@hamilton
yeah It really doesn't happen that much to me either, but I still don't know what I will use when the situation comes up again. Let me know how that goes for you haha. Thanks for reading.

@water
Its cheap out here considering what a badass area it is. Most nights there is something going on. And the weekends are insane. You're gonna melt during the summer though cause its hot as fuck. On the bright side, girls wear next to nothing during the summer.


lil update. Monday was with a girl I have in my small rotation right now. Tuesday met a girl for a day2 - not much happened but looks promosing for later... Wednesday met one of the old POF bitches. Got a handjob without finishing, lameness LMR occured, next... Went out on Wednesday night with a friend. The venue is kinda dead and I'm feeling out of my element (considering the venue) but I do maybe 5 small openings. Chode the rest.
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