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October 18th, 2017
Shedding Weight For Male Grenades?
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#21
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Join Date: 09/06/2010 | Posts: 68

 1. kill soda. replace soda with water. use 100% juice (only 100% juice, they will try to trick you) to ween off, can continue drinking that minimally once you have killed soda. drink water before and after sleeping until it is a habit, then populate the rest of your day with water (before and after activity, during is bad mojo)

2. use yogurt or other live culture to get your digestive system to happy land 

3. eat shit that used to walk on legs or came out of the ground. if it was made in a factory and has a long scientific name, its probably balls. do you want to be a balleater 

4. shrink your stomach's max capacity. easy shit. the way that worked for me was using a single week and drinking a bigger energy drink during the middle of the day (+ lots of water) to drain my appetite. gotta be careful with this one if you're older and aren't drinking a lot of water, it isn't the healthiest way but it works. willpower works too but caffeine kinda cracks you out which made it more fun for me. 

5. incorporate your old eating habits with your new eating habits w/ your new hunger system. add fruits + veggies (apples, oranges, bananas, broccoli, potato, tomato, onion are easy ones to start with), meats good for you but if thats your thing do w/e baby. you can still eat like shit as long as it's dropping in levels, deprivation can restart all of your old shitty habits. easy shit. 

6. walk, then run. seriously, walk a little more. go outside, calm down and walk around for like 10+ minutes. go to a park if you have one near you or go somewhere natural. if you go from nothing -> gym you are missing critical steps in the early stages and you WILL get that ass whooped by exercise machines. you can get ripped without weights and the right terrain so definitely try that before you gung the fuck outta some dumbbells 

7. create negative associations with shitty foods. when you have low energy or feel weighed down after eating a fat ass bacon double fuck you burger, remember to put all of the negative association on the act, scorn the act, but keep the blame away from you and on the act. this will create a subconscious barrier that keeps you from wanted to repeat the behavior. 

i love you like a child, please get a 6 pack for all of mankinds sake 
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Ish

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AdamChase wrote:
I'm a male grenade (super obese) and I've been on a raw vegan diet before but never really stuck to it because it's fucking impossible and my sex drive was diminished, I couldn't even get a boner. My skin looked fucking amazing though, so I'm assuming that is from not eating shit like processed grains? 

Anyways, I hear alot about the Primal Blueprint book and I'm thinking about getting it. My worry is that meat on the whole gets quite a bad rep and apparently is cancer-causing, acidic to the body. Is this true? Is this the ultimate way of losing weight? I know exercise is key but I want to get the healthy lifestyle handled.

Ha i was on the raw food diet for a while (i take it you know Dan the Man Macdonald) like yourself my skin was great and my shit didn't stink but i felt
run down as i was lacking protein since then i reverted back to my old diet Tom Venutos Burn the fat feed the muscle program though the only meat
i eat now is eggs and fish and protein shakes i still eat alot of raw veges and green smoothies for the live enzymes and that seems to work out for me
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If you have not read Primal Blueprint then stop replying to this thread like you know what your talking about.  Read it then make an informed decision.

If you need any more reason to the power of going Primal then look no further than Owen, he's living proof of how spot on it is.
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I have not read it but last i checked it was still a free world
Theres more than one way to skin a cat
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#25
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Rich~ wrote:
 yeah what convinces me of the grains thing is just having not eaten them for a while.  See how you feel when you go back to them...
I'm thinking about doing this, I've already cut down my grain intake the past weeks. What does it feel like when you're off and what's the difference?
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Goran~ wrote:

Don corleon wrote:
[sp Eat plenty of vegies, drink water and eat your meat and grains. There is nothing wrong with any of that stuff. You body was designed to digest protien, fats and carbs. If it wasn't designed to do that, you wouldn't have biochemical pathways for it.



A car thay was designed to run on petrol can also run on diesel, but it will break down twice as fast and will cease to work eventually.

A dog, lion, cat and other meat eating animals can eat and process grass, they do this for medicinal purpouses, but they cannot solely survive on grass, they will die wiyhout meat.

Just like humans can eat and process grains, but they get bloated, get diabetes, and other diseases and die early. Grains are bot natural, and they can not be found in the wild without human cultivation. Grains in their raw form cannot be eaten without being processed in some
way first, while meat, fat vegetables fruits can. Humsns can process carbs, but small amounts derived from veggies and fruits not grains.

What are grains?

Well they are a energy source that was cultivated peoplr to feed the masses in large cities, because when people started settling in cities there was not enough meat to go round, but grains can ne grown in no time...

Also the word diet does not only refer to the common meaning of a fad you use till upu get yo what u want sbd go back to your previous routine.

It also means, the normal suplementation of good for a particular snimal ie: the bears diet cinsists of fish, berries, small mamals. It does not mean the bear is trying to loose weight.

The primal blieprint diet is a reference to a lifestyle of eatingvabd not a faf u pick up, its something you keep doing for good, as its a very natural diet.
@Jared

You do not need carbs for energy, the humdn body runs just fine on fat for energy, its more sustainable burns slower which mesns your energu levels stay at a constant. You do not getthe sugar High and then the low after eating fats like you do with carbs as carbs are converyed to sugar and fats are not.

Funny thing is, carbs turn to sugar in your body, if the sugar is not butned off quick enough it turbs to fat, the problem jere is you cannot burn the fat on your body uf you keep eating carbs that get turned into sugar, your body can only burn one energy source at a time. To burn the fat on your bodu you must stop eating carbs, thus making your body switch energy sources to fat.

Your body's metabolic process converts most of that protien into carbohydrates. That is the dumbest bullshit I have ever heard. Read a biochemistery book on human metabolism and relate it to what you eat. You will slap anyone that tells you that humans can't eat grains. "Processed" grains are different from "good" grains. There is nothing wrong with things like oatmeal, whole grain bread or brown rice. These are all very good energy sources that your body can live ON!

Give a lion or a cat grass for a month and it will die. The human body will survive without protien for years. You won't be healthy but you will be alive. Your reasoning is wrong. 
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#27

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Whorelord~ wrote:

Rich~ wrote:
 yeah what convinces me of the grains thing is just having not eaten them for a while.  See how you feel when you go back to them...
I'm thinking about doing this, I've already cut down my grain intake the past weeks. What does it feel like when you're off and what's the difference?
 Much, much better - stable energy, no wired-highs then sugar-crash lows or sleepy afternoons after pasta/bread - ALSO amazing how much better your gut feels (ime).  Massively recommend primal blueprint... the science is all referenced in there and it makes sooo much sense, at least to me.
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THIS WILL HEAL YOU!!!

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Don corleon wrote:

Goran~ wrote:

Don corleon wrote:
[sp Eat plenty of vegies, drink water and eat your meat and grains. There is nothing wrong with any of that stuff. You body was designed to digest protien, fats and carbs. If it wasn't designed to do that, you wouldn't have biochemical pathways for it.



A car thay was designed to run on petrol can also run on diesel, but it will break down twice as fast and will cease to work eventually.

A dog, lion, cat and other meat eating animals can eat and process grass, they do this for medicinal purpouses, but they cannot solely survive on grass, they will die wiyhout meat.

Just like humans can eat and process grains, but they get bloated, get diabetes, and other diseases and die early. Grains are bot natural, and they can not be found in the wild without human cultivation. Grains in their raw form cannot be eaten without being processed in some
way first, while meat, fat vegetables fruits can. Humsns can process carbs, but small amounts derived from veggies and fruits not grains.

What are grains?

Well they are a energy source that was cultivated peoplr to feed the masses in large cities, because when people started settling in cities there was not enough meat to go round, but grains can ne grown in no time...

Also the word diet does not only refer to the common meaning of a fad you use till upu get yo what u want sbd go back to your previous routine.

It also means, the normal suplementation of good for a particular snimal ie: the bears diet cinsists of fish, berries, small mamals. It does not mean the bear is trying to loose weight.

The primal blieprint diet is a reference to a lifestyle of eatingvabd not a faf u pick up, its something you keep doing for good, as its a very natural diet.
@Jared

You do not need carbs for energy, the humdn body runs just fine on fat for energy, its more sustainable burns slower which mesns your energu levels stay at a constant. You do not getthe sugar High and then the low after eating fats like you do with carbs as carbs are converyed to sugar and fats are not.

Funny thing is, carbs turn to sugar in your body, if the sugar is not butned off quick enough it turbs to fat, the problem jere is you cannot burn the fat on your body uf you keep eating carbs that get turned into sugar, your body can only burn one energy source at a time. To burn the fat on your bodu you must stop eating carbs, thus making your body switch energy sources to fat.

Your body's metabolic process converts most of that protien into carbohydrates. That is the dumbest bullshit I have ever heard. Read a biochemistery book on human metabolism and relate it to what you eat. You will slap anyone that tells you that humans can't eat grains. "Processed" grains are different from "good" grains. There is nothing wrong with things like oatmeal, whole grain bread or brown rice. These are all very good energy sources that your body can live ON!

Give a lion or a cat grass for a month and it will die. The human body will survive without protien for years. You won't be healthy but you will be alive. Your reasoning is wrong. 



Grab some raw maize off the maize field, grab a raw corn from the corn field, grab some raw oats, put them all in your mouth, or even one by one and give tgem a good chew... Tastes like shit right, your mouth is dry now, hard to swallow? Guess they need to be processed in some way or eaten with something to make them go down...

Layman: "No you dont have to process grains, you can make bread out of whole grains and eat it!"

Yeah the baking that occurs to make eadible bread is a form of processing.

Kill a wild deer, and tuck into the raw meat, youll find it goes down nicely, if you disagree, have you ever heard of eating your steak rare, or even blue, blue means all that has been done is the steak has been taken out the fridge and heated up to body temperiture, just like if it was just killed. People eat this, especially in europee, its very tender and disolves in your mouth. Raw minced veal is popular in italy, tastes amazing you should try it!

Grab some raw peppers, apples asparagus, letuce cabage, hmm eddible raw, oh so are nuts and seeds...


Anyway whatever, enjoy your grains, I hope you have a full and healthy life.

Im out of this thread for good I hope!
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#30
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Join Date: 12/20/2010 | Posts: 268

 Find a sport you like doing and follow your own path. Try what others say, but dont just believe them. While not 'just believing' them, do give it a chance to prove itself.

Remember that a good physique is: Sleep, training and eating. And do these 3 the right way. 

Everybody is right, and everybody is wrong at some point. You can lose a lot of weight with only weight lifting and eating right. Then again, look at boxers.. they don't massively train weights and still are very low on bodyfat, with a strong physique. Eating is very important and I do think 'primal blueprint' comes pretty close to what really works for me. 

I box 3-4 times a week, i lift weights 3 times a week.. I am very active. I used to be 'very active' but had a very lousy diet. (don't just think of diet in the form of 'losing weight'. Most people just have a very shit diet which contains a lot of junk food) I didn't got great results. I also used to train very hard but sleep poorly and short.. never great result. You need to focus on all 3 the things.

Always remember: You can't out-train a shitty diet. And altough this might be not completely true... the fact is, if you eat the right things, your training also becomes better.. which means your condition becomes better..your physique becomes better.. you will sleep better because your body needs the rest.. you get into a more normal sleeping schedule..etc etc 

Don't go insane about it..... Or maybe do. I have gone thru a very insane period where i was constantly obsessed about what I was eating. how i was training, how i was sleeping..drinking..etc etc... Now I have a very balanced lifestyle without all the 'bad things' like alcohol and shit.  Maybe going thru a period of obsessing is needed..idk, truthfully... i never did it another way so I wouldn't know.

Good luck!  (and dont expect to have a awesome moviestar physique within weeks, also don't shift from training program and diet every week... stick to it.. for training programs i suggest you to stick with if for 6 weeks (talking weight lifting here, which is very benificial for weight loss (well, actually FAT loss, not weight loss.. you dont want to become a skinny-fat person.. look at a mens health cover model.. Do you care how much he weights? If he told you he weights 220 pounds... would you call him fat?) since your body is still burning fat after training while sports like boxing will only burn fat during training... then again.. you burn A LOT of fat with boxing/kickboxing)
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