THE FORUMS

 It's been a while buddy.....

Anyways good to see you hacking away at this. 


Its funny how I read your thread and your problem is almost exactly the same as mine. I was actually getting more success before, but this was also when I didn't know or wasn't expecting shit. I was coming from a place of nothing, so I had nothing to lose. I might have not f-closed girls but I was getting more consistant at pulling them. Getting groups of girls to spend most of the night with me and my friend. We had more of an adventure.

Fast forward (also including hte LONG break I took). People use to start calling me a pimp because they use to see me with girls all the time (too bad I wasn't banging them). I use to be able to walk up and hook girls right away and move them around. But now I remember that I was pretty good with girls. I remember how I use to be amazing at social situations, and now even in social circle groups I'm almost in my head and analyzing how my interactions are going in my head instead of just being there and talking like I use to. So right now the sticking point for us is to get back to the have nothing to lose minset. We built this ego where we do have something to lose. We use to be good and now we mentally can't accept going backward. 

This is even to the point when I have a decent interaction I end up not pushing as hard and playing slow so I do not mess it up, instead of going in and going hard like I use to. Before my mindset was there are not many sets so I'll just go till broke and if I don't get anything fuck it. It's alright if I blow myself out early in the night. Now I notice myself playing it safe.

I think Haze said it perfectly, it is the attachment to the idea that we are good. The idea that we know how to charm women. Think of this we did step backward in a way but we also stepped forward. We have no fear approaching and esclating. 
BTW I read when you were hesitating about approaching. This is what helps me the most, as soon as I walk in I approach the FIRST set I see.  It's crazy on how once you approach the first set you see it makes the entire night easier. It only gets harder the longer you wait. I'm sure you know this but its always good to get a reminder. It's like enter venue and talk to the first person you see preferably female. If you have lines to enter venues talk to the people in line. Even if the conversation lasts 10 seconds while your in line with them you just broke the ice in talking to random people. 

I'm going to review old PUA materials and look at the basics again. Maybe it's important to remind yourself of the basics. Try and mentally start from fresh while using some of the ingrained skills from the field. Now we are going in knowing we can approach, knowing we don't get scared talking to random girls. We are also knowing that hard blowouts don't mean shit. We have to also go in with nothing to lose because we need to go in with the mindset we don't know shit. Almost like I'm going to approach, I most likely won't get shit anyway so lets go till broke. This was my mindset when I was new and I wasn't outcome dependent. 

So like I said the hardest part is to start again mentally admitting we don't know shit. Maybe you should take a month break to rest your head and forget about pick-up then start back again. It'll almost feel like you hit the restart button. I've had my "extended break" so I do feel like i'm starting from fresh. 

And nice random pictures to make us all happy: