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Slay the bitches... but I am petrified of sales!
Yeah I've done similar things. Scary as shit initially. Initially.
Sit down and look at what the fear is. Not superficially. Not what society tells you it is. But what the fear, any fear, really IS. Only when you see it clearly, can you be free from it. And that takes time. I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching, or some guru bs. But it's very simple: If you see the purpose and the source of fear, it disappears.
Notice: the things you were afraid about in the past, you are currently not afraid of them. Why? Because you have the big picture without even thinking about it. You see clearly.
Sit down and look at what the fear is. Not superficially. Not what society tells you it is. But what the fear, any fear, really IS. Only when you see it clearly, can you be free from it. And that takes time. I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching, or some guru bs. But it's very simple: If you see the purpose and the source of fear, it disappears.
Notice: the things you were afraid about in the past, you are currently not afraid of them. Why? Because you have the big picture without even thinking about it. You see clearly.
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LOLLLL bro, I completely feel ya.
Whenever I got my license to sell Life and Health insurance in my state, I was like, "This ain't shit...just beast", then I started doing my calling, setting up appointments, and going to client's houses....
I was fucking pretrified. It was like a completely different ballgame because "cold approach" didn't really apply. Yes, basic social skills are needed, but the actual "selling" part was what I had the most difficulty with.
"that my product/service is something that benefits others, not tricks them. But I can't help but feel like I am "trying to get over" on people that I hand the cards to." - this is the main thing that I had/have trouble with. Even though I KNOW that the products that my agency sells are the top in the nation, I still have some holdback about whether or not I'm "tricking" the people into buying them.
And the funny thing is, I have zero fear of talking to chicks, heights, public speaking, snakes, spiders, etc, but whenever it comes to "selling" something, that's when my palms start getting sweaty and I don't do my best.
I'm sure that I could pinpoint this all down to an early childhood belief that my father said like, "don't take money from other people" or something, but the thing I've realized is that I actually have to BELIEVE somewhat that the product I have could truly benefit them in some way.
But my Insurance career is kinda on a stand-still right now as something much bigger and better came up in life :)
Before I stopped selling hardcore, there was something that I stumbled upon which might help:
Ari Galper's Unlock the Game.
www.unlockthegame.com
It's mainly centered around cold calling, so it may or may not help you out...all depending. However, even though I don't do very much cold calling (actually none), I found it INVALUABLE for overcoming client's objections and an authentic way and not a scripted/salesy way.
I'm hoping that BonoboTimes could lend some advice on what he does to beast in the car market.
But I wish you the best man. Take care.
-AR
Whenever I got my license to sell Life and Health insurance in my state, I was like, "This ain't shit...just beast", then I started doing my calling, setting up appointments, and going to client's houses....
I was fucking pretrified. It was like a completely different ballgame because "cold approach" didn't really apply. Yes, basic social skills are needed, but the actual "selling" part was what I had the most difficulty with.
"that my product/service is something that benefits others, not tricks them. But I can't help but feel like I am "trying to get over" on people that I hand the cards to." - this is the main thing that I had/have trouble with. Even though I KNOW that the products that my agency sells are the top in the nation, I still have some holdback about whether or not I'm "tricking" the people into buying them.
And the funny thing is, I have zero fear of talking to chicks, heights, public speaking, snakes, spiders, etc, but whenever it comes to "selling" something, that's when my palms start getting sweaty and I don't do my best.
I'm sure that I could pinpoint this all down to an early childhood belief that my father said like, "don't take money from other people" or something, but the thing I've realized is that I actually have to BELIEVE somewhat that the product I have could truly benefit them in some way.
But my Insurance career is kinda on a stand-still right now as something much bigger and better came up in life :)
Before I stopped selling hardcore, there was something that I stumbled upon which might help:
Ari Galper's Unlock the Game.
www.unlockthegame.com
It's mainly centered around cold calling, so it may or may not help you out...all depending. However, even though I don't do very much cold calling (actually none), I found it INVALUABLE for overcoming client's objections and an authentic way and not a scripted/salesy way.
I'm hoping that BonoboTimes could lend some advice on what he does to beast in the car market.
But I wish you the best man. Take care.
-AR
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My game = social skills + having a dick. Morely the latter.
Really? I used to sell on the street and it wasn't a big deal to me. I feel like all the same rules apply. No outcome-dependence (never be pushy), have fun (be human and talk to other people as humans), be honest, and always come from a position that you're adding value into other people's lives. When you genuinely want to help out the customer you're pushing to, usually the business will go well.
Sales is a bomb way to make money. I don't see how you would have anxiety about it if you go out and do cold-approach pickup a lot, but that's just me.
Sales is a bomb way to make money. I don't see how you would have anxiety about it if you go out and do cold-approach pickup a lot, but that's just me.
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"If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment."
"A man must stand erect, not be kept erect by others."
-Marcus Aurelius
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest."
-Confucius
"A man must stand erect, not be kept erect by others."
-Marcus Aurelius
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest."
-Confucius
Sales is very good field if you are have no morals. Well I guess that depends of what your selling too. I got out of that biz though, made me way too callous. Pick up strat is very much the same as sales. The "fuck-off"s save you time, but the ones who make you go over your entire pitch and delcline for no real reason are annoying as fuck though.
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The Right Path Is My Path
I was born and raised in sales.
Few tips.
First you said it, you just gotta go out there and do it.
Know your product inside and out, this will bring out the confidence when you talk. You don't want to be like durrrr when someone asks you a question. You ARE the professional.
Believe in what you are selling (sucks when someone was interested in some of our crap merchendise) when you have a passion for what you are talking about the passion spreads. Almost like she feels what you feel. You getting excited about the product will help other people get excited about the product. Plust your excitement will really emphasize the TRUE good aspects of your product or service. Not some thought out manipulative points that "should get people interested."
Understand the customer. Listen to the customer when they talk, so you can address them and handle them accordingly.
These are just a few points to get you running. Once you get running and more experience you will figure out a way to autocorrect on your own.
Good Luck!!!!!!
Few tips.
First you said it, you just gotta go out there and do it.
Know your product inside and out, this will bring out the confidence when you talk. You don't want to be like durrrr when someone asks you a question. You ARE the professional.
Believe in what you are selling (sucks when someone was interested in some of our crap merchendise) when you have a passion for what you are talking about the passion spreads. Almost like she feels what you feel. You getting excited about the product will help other people get excited about the product. Plust your excitement will really emphasize the TRUE good aspects of your product or service. Not some thought out manipulative points that "should get people interested."
Understand the customer. Listen to the customer when they talk, so you can address them and handle them accordingly.
These are just a few points to get you running. Once you get running and more experience you will figure out a way to autocorrect on your own.
Good Luck!!!!!!
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"
“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”
Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman
My FR's. Give me feedback gawd damnit
Apupimpin: Round 2
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"
“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”
Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman
My FR's. Give me feedback gawd damnit
Apupimpin: Round 2
Just be brave and maybe you could try to drill for once or twice on the street. But if you really couldn't get over the fear, I think you should choose to transfer to another field.
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Always with great passion on Tom Ford sunglasses. I'm a sunglasses fanatic I always think sunglasses can add charm to a person, it'll be much more gorgeous if someone wears sunglasses.
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All the blueprints, flawless naturals, etc means NOTHING without actually going out daily and approaching. And that's exactly what I have to do in order to conquer this. I forgot how bad the fear is.
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Dudes that are just starting out in picking up chicks, I feel for you. I didn't remember how scary this is. The fear is OVERWHELMING. No wonder it took me so long to get good with chicks... the fear is hard to get over.
Time to get approaching all over again.
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All the blueprints, flawless naturals, etc means NOTHING without actually going out daily and approaching. And that's exactly what I have to do in order to conquer this. I forgot how bad the fear is.
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Dudes that are just starting out in picking up chicks, I feel for you. I didn't remember how scary this is. The fear is OVERWHELMING. No wonder it took me so long to get good with chicks... the fear is hard to get over.
Time to get approaching all over again.
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ROBOTB0NER
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I had no idea that my confidence can diminish to nothing when it comes to SELLING something. I know it's all mindset, and I am trying to flip the switch. But I think it goes back to how I was raised. My father taught me to be selfless and never gave me hard business skills. I could never have a job as a car salesman cuz I just don't have that personality. I know this is all a frame thing... that my product/service is something that benefits others, not tricks them. But I can't help but feel like I am "trying to get over" on people that I hand the cards to.
Just realized I have an entire new channel for me to improve in for my life. Had no idea it'd be this bad.
Now that I feel the same nervousness I felt when I was just starting out in the game, but this time I know the way to get there because I've already done it in a different field (pickup)... it's funny I find myself thinking of all these "other" things I want to do to get me more comfortable with my sales skills.... read sales books, read tolle bro, watch videos on sales... but because I've taught myself how to be good with girls, I know that the best thing for me to improve is to just go out there and FACE MY FEARS.
All the blueprints, flawless naturals, etc means NOTHING without actually going out daily and approaching. And that's exactly what I have to do in order to conquer this. I forgot how bad the fear is.
Dudes that are just starting out in picking up chicks, I feel for you. I didn't remember how scary this is. The fear is OVERWHELMING. No wonder it took me so long to get good with chicks... the fear is hard to get over.
Time to get approaching all over again.