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May 21st, 2013
Lateralus Journal: Waiting for the Click
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Quick Background: No game 3 years ago. 3 years later of going out, still waiting for that click [Deep Identity Level Change] I label myself as an Intermediate. Can go out and book 3-5 girls a night no problem. Friends think what I do is incredibly but i'm sick and fucking tired of coming home w/ just numbers. I don't get the same good feeling from it anymore. I'm numb to it. Girls give their numbers out to everyone. [='Comic Sans MS']Time to fucking graduate.[/]

Problem: I'm a phone directory. Tons of numbers yet rarely any meet ups or SNL (Major Sticking Point). My sets don't last 5 minutes MAX. [='Times New Roman']Please critique. Could use all the help I could get. I need to take it to the next level. Been in middle school for to long. [/]

Solution: Keep going out and start writing Field Reports to catch what the issue is.

[='Comic Sans MS']I will work on:[/]

Do the comfort thing and be w/ her for 20 + minutes to get that emotional connection < Sets are less than 5 Min. 
Stop Dancing Monkey < I can be high energy
Demonstrate More Value
Lead More
Vibe More
Venue Change More < I'm always in the same spot
Get More Physical < Hardly Ever Touch 

Later Peeps 

P.S. Going out tonight to a couple of venues w/ friends. I'll write something
up. 
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oh man oh man. three years? good god sir. I sounds like you need to push your sets and get out of your comfort zone. 
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AustinCC wrote:
oh man oh man. three years? good god sir. I sounds like you need to push your sets and get out of your comfort zone. 
+ 1 Agree 100%.

My journey took longer because I was coming from a very bad mindspace. Some guys learn it overnight. Others take longer. Where am at now is 1000 times better then where I was b4. I have had a very bad past.  Stints w/ drugs, jail, failing out of school, suicidal idea's, hanging w/ the wrong crowd, robbed (guns @ my head) , motorcycle accidents. They aren't excuses, actually I embrace them, they made me who I am today. Most people have had boring lives. They haven't experienced much. I wouldn't enjoy life as much if it wasn't for that.   

Since finding this community it has really been a life saver. I spent nearly my whole life reacting. Since being enlightened I have a graduated college, have a steady job, and looks like i'm going places. Not qualifying myself here. Just writing so others might have the same story and can relate, Feel ME?

 The progression isn't bothering me. I know the stars w/ align. I think my game is okay now, not many people can go out and book 3-5 girls a night but I do understand its time to MAN UP and CLOSE. 
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Good luck dude...not that you need it
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I never take numbers.  It's either I pull that night or I go home.

This game is pretty much just being physical and leading.  Throw in BR tonality and the bare minimum of verbal and you should be pulling no problem.

Lead and be persistant.
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Lateralus wrote:

AustinCC wrote:
oh man oh man. three years? good god sir. I sounds like you need to push your sets and get out of your comfort zone. 
+ 1 Agree 100%.

My journey took longer because I was coming from a very bad mindspace. Some guys learn it overnight. Others take longer. Where am at now is 1000 times better then where I was b4. I have had a very bad past.  Stints w/ drugs, jail, failing out of school, suicidal idea's, hanging w/ the wrong crowd, robbed (guns @ my head) , motorcycle accidents. They aren't excuses, actually I embrace them, they made me who I am today. Most people have had boring lives. They haven't experienced much. I wouldn't enjoy life as much if it wasn't for that.   

Since finding this community it has really been a life saver. I spent nearly my whole life reacting. Since being enlightened I have a graduated college, have a steady job, and looks like i'm going places. Not qualifying myself here. Just writing so others might have the same story and can relate, Feel ME?

 The progression isn't bothering me. I know the stars w/ align. I think my game is okay now, not many people can go out and book 3-5 girls a night but I do understand its time to MAN UP and CLOSE. 

AHHH ok, that makes more sense now. I know a few guys I'm working with who come from a place similar to yours, and yeah, it will take them that long. On the other hand, I come from a much different place and I found parts of this much easier and faster. 

Well sir, it's time to start pushing sets. Do it often and go hard. Go for the win. :)
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10pin Thanks 
Haze~ wrote:
I never take numbers.  It's either I pull that night or I go home.

This game is pretty much just being physical and leading.  Throw in BR tonality and the bare minimum of verbal and you should be pulling no problem.

Lead and be persistant.
Haze~ Thanks for giving me a game plan 4 2nite to work on. 
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 Background Music (Good Look 10Pin for putting me on w/ this shit) 

Cinco de mayo night,

Going in I have 3 objectives in mind (no worries man I'm not outcome dependent, just shit I got to be aware off). Sir konstastine told me to be in sets longer and Haze~ told me to fuck numbers, be physical and lead.

So I enter first venue, it's weak, as DC is on weekdays usually. I meet up wit my bro and his crew. No value scanning or pinging but still in my head. See broads with a X on their hands freaking each other. Time for me to make a move. I go in and my bro wings the other one.  I ask her, where did she learn those dance move? and told her that I didn't know what I was going to do with Her (teasing) we talk for about 3 minutes and her fugly friend pulled her away, I guess my Wing didn't entertain her. She was into me though bcos when she left she was giving me the eyes. When I'm leaving I ask her how old she is and she says 17(she has a fake). I'm 23, not trying to get a charge. I just got off probation a year ago over stupid shit.

Venue change

Lima dc, this place is tight but can be tricky, it's and older crowd 30+ years. I cut lose her like a mother fucker. One problem, there is a DJ here blasting beats loud as a mother fucker. [='Comic Sans MS']How do you cats game when you can't even hear yourself?[/] What the fuck. No victim mentality. Communication is 70% non verbals so I use facial expressions and yell as loud as he'll. It's a two girl set, I go in, I say some stupid shit like, Ladies, Ladies, Ladies, How is girls night out going? Which one of you guys is the Trouble Maker, I answer the question myself to keep them not thinking and point at the Hot one and tell her some stupid emotional shit like What am I going to do with you guys. She starts laughing real hard. She is hooked. Looks like I may have Value. We start vibing for a bit and she is into me. She is Laughing. Her friend is being a PUSS though. No social skills at all. I'm trying to keep her engaged because if I can't her friend is out of there (Girls put their friends first). Doesn't Work, Her friend pulls her away. FUCK ME. I should have LEAD and gotten PHYSICAL (dance floor type shit). Through out the whole interaction I was competing with her friend and the GAY DJ pumping loud beats. 

Best Interaction of the night: I'm gaming a set of 4 (2 3's and 2 7's) and they are all into me, all have Black X's on their hand means their babies. Fuck it they are legal. I have won the group. This interaction lasted 20 minutes so I can say I sort of slayed a sticking point. This one BLonde bitch kept eyeing me and touching her hair. She sensed my REALITY, she sense my COnfidence. I'm LEading the whole way through. Decide to move them around. I tell them to go get a drink and realized they can't. COntinue to game them and told one of the 7's that I was going to take her friend who was visiting from RIchmond (hot Blonde babe) a tour of the club. Guess her friend wasn't into it, maybe she wanted me to ask her instead, JEALOUSY Plotlines AnyonE?. She was from out of town. Wanted to look out for her. I told her to tag along. She said she was going to stay w/ her friends on the sofa. 

Decide to call it a night and grab a TAXI. As i'm walking there are to MILF BLONDES trying to take pics of each other. I can tell they are struggling so I grab the camera from them, start to game them and eventually take a pic w/ them. Could have booked them but i'm not taking numbers. FUCK numbers. By the way: Its true what TYLER says when you can be having a shitty night and your very last approach ends up making your night worthwhile. 

[='Comic Sans MS']Summary [/]
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Overall shitty as night. Around 10 Approaches. All decent but no pulls. I got attraction in all of them. 
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[='Comic Sans MS']I'm still im not pushing that shit. I'm tippy toeing around this girls not gettting physical. I give up to easy on the first sign of a No. Got to Plow More. God Dammit. Fuck. Got to push my boundaries. On to Round Two tonight. [/][='Comic Sans MS'][/]
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 and push for more sets dude. When you're hitting hard practicing, 90% of your time should be in set, or around 15-20 sets. 
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 If you listen to the Weeknd, you're probably the coolest dude in the room anyways...

GIRL PUT IN WORK!
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Background Music 

Last night  was different. Went to a bar in VA I never went to to watch the Lakers game. It turns out being a $1000 bikini contest as well, just my fucking luck. Massive busty bodies everywhere. 4/1 ratio of guys though. Most of them needy. Just giving their power away to these superficial objects.

Big fake tit brunette, she is a solid hottie, keeps getting up to get attention from all the dudes at the spot. You can see it like its a Matrix how every dude in there eyes follows her every move. There is no way in hell she wont win this contest. I always remember what Tyler said in FOundations. [='Comic Sans MS']A girl likes to be put on a Pedastol, but she won't be attracted to you if you do.[/][='Comic Sans MS'][/] I'll come back to here later.

Since it's dudes night out we are drinking hard. Vibing and just having fun w/ jokes. 100% carefree, We can care less about the environment, ironically this helps our value.


I know my whole goal is to not get numbers but I ended up macking to the tall busty blonde who won the $1000. We vibed a bit (20 min). She was w/ a group, so I went up w/ the usual opener. Me: "Ladies, Ladies, how is girls night going? Her: Good Me: So who is the trouble maker in the group, wait hold up, let me guess, its all you guys? What am I going to to do w/ you guys. Just some Random BS to hook myself in the set. They all laughing. Tried to get physical, had a conversation about her tattoos and how I had some and we had shit in common. I start touching her tattoos. Is this getting physical? I was leading. I tell her lets go get a drink and she says she doesn't drink bcuz she is driving. She seemed into me but also into her friends so I try to get her more emotional and tease her friends a bit. Still not congruent w/ the physical part. Looks like I have a success barrier I need to explode. My Ego thinks its not okay to do, and the chicks sense this. The set crashed 5 minutes later. I see the hot brunette.

So that hot brunette w/ the fake tits is still in the bar at 2 in the mourning. She is w/ her bitch posey. Its about 4. All have the bitch attitude up. I say fuck it man. Strongest Reality wins and I'm not living up to their standards, they got to live up to mine. I go up, I know my friends are thinking what the fuck is he doing, is he crazy, they are just to fucking Hot. Fuck them, I know what I want and I'm going to get it. I go in while the brunette is having a conversation. I used the same opener as the last set, but this time I used BR tonality through out (thanks Haze~). She is sucked into my reality she can't help it. We talk for like 3 minutes and I can tell that she is liking it. I start to doubt myself for a split second. My socially conditioned mind says how is this possible. Once again the EGO IS A FAGGOT. Tell him to go suck on BAlls. angry. The set ends up crashing due to the fact the bitch friends, who were also fucking HOT, start trying to snatch her from me, I try to engage them put it seems like they are on their period. Know wingman support, it was 1 vs. 4. Oh well, it was a good reference experience, that was the hottest girl I had ever talking to in my LIFE w/o a doubt and she was vibing back. New limits were created last night. 

Montreal Madison said something in a forum post a few days back that a chick must know that you are not intimidated by her looks. I knew this already but really never internalized. It did last night. You go up w/ 100% belief and they sense it. STRONGEST REALITY WINS MOFO's.


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Overall
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The night was mostly shooting the shit w/ the fellas. I was kind of in my comfort zone bcuz my friends aren't into gaming. So i basically chilled out and watched most of the game. I did open around 5 sets through out the night. 2 Crashed and burned, while 3 had potential if I would have gotten physical. Ozzie is right man, if your not getting physical you aren't getting laid.  

I attempted to get alot more physical and worked a bit but I'm not calibrated yet and they can sense it. Good learning experience w/o a doubt.

Got to keep pushing it. Got to Kill the EGO. Push it, get slapped who fucking cares dude. 

Keep working on:
Getting Physical - Push It Mother fucker
Building Comfort 
Leading

[=rgb(0, 191, 255)]On to night 3, fight night. [/]
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