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December 5th, 2016
Compliant pulls vs. Non Compliant pulls
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MADISON*

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Ayyyy, first of all most of what im saying here will not apply to people reading this until you have passed the “cool-man” threshold in your life. Once you just give off cool vibes without even trying then this will work for you. Otherwise it wont….

Anyways here we go….
Compliant pulls vs. Non Compliant pulls

Difference?

MOST COMMUNITY GUYS: Spin hug, SOI, blah blah talk for 30 mins, ask to food, or ask he to come to your house to chill and talk, get to know each other as people. Or whatever. That only works 25% of the time

ME: Random intro, light super friendly touching, boring-ass conversation about my family or science. Her friends walk off, I Tell her I lost my cash , or I need some fresh air cause im dizzy, or I want to go smoke outside to pull her. Non physical compliment, and then I physically drag her to a cab and makeout. Or I walk to the ATM half way to my house, and then say my card is not working lets go get some cash somewhere else. Boom at my house.

The difference is compliance…If you are waiting for compliance from a girl to extract her, you are not giving her what she wants. You are not taking responsibility away form her.A girl wants to be tricked, they like it. She wants a man that is more clever then her. Girls are smarter then you, they have seen all game. She knows you want to fuck her, and you will fail half the time if you wait for compliance. Most girls will not logically agree to go to your house unless they are DTF. Most girls are not so sure they want to go anywhere.

Most girls are not thinking I wanna fuck this man. If there is sexual chemistry they are just thinking, “Maybe I would like to kiss him, or see what hes all about”

Kino is for Fag’s:
Heavy kino kills most pulling. Because you are a forgone conclusion and they girl can anticipate what will happen next. She can tell what will happen if she leaves with a random dude buy how you act. If she cannot logical accept fucking you, then kino might get you good reactions, and makout, but not a pull with no resistance. And that’s what I like, non resistance pulls. Heavy Kino is great for fast 10 min pulls and drunk chicks. Not for groups of girls having a ladies night out.

High Value men don’t need to Kino, they just need to show they are indifferent.
A girl just has to know you are nto intimidated by her. That can be communicated in many ways I won’t get into here. But once she believes you have more Value then her you don’t need to kino.

And I also advise against making out. Making out is only pumping Buying temperature for DTF girls. A slight small 4 second kiss with no tongue is better. Maybe a few throughout the night.

Anyway I could say a lot more about this but im kinda lazy right now, so just go out and be cooler then the girl and try to pull how I recommended…
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Lateralus

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Mr. Mtl Madison wrote:

High Value men don’t need to Kino, they just need to show they are indifferent.
A girl just has to know you are nto intimidated by her. That can be communicated in many ways I won’t get into here. But once she believes you have more Value then her you don’t need to kino.


Thanks Man, you strengthened my Reality. 
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Hotdog

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High value means you just take what you desire, If you are conciously thinking of not touching her but you actually want to that is low value behaviour
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Manwhore

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Lmao!
RattTail. wrote:



Mr. Mtl Madison wrote:

Ayyyy, first of all most of what im saying here will not apply to people reading this until you have passed the “cool-man” threshold in your life.
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Manwhore

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 I dedicated an entire podcast to this idea of "non compliant" pulls 

Podcast #3 
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scottsdale

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Mr. Mtl Madison wrote:

The difference is compliance…If you are waiting for compliance from a girl to extract her, you are not giving her what she wants. You are not taking responsibility away form her.A girl wants to be tricked, they like it. She wants a man that is more clever then her. Girls are smarter then you, they have seen all game. She knows you want to fuck her, and you will fail half the time if you wait for compliance. Most girls will not logically agree to go to your house unless they are DTF. Most girls are not so sure they want to go anywhere.


I totally agree on the waiting for compliance thing. LEADING!!

But the tricking part haha. I don't know, that reality is strange to me - but it sounds like there might be something to it. I will test it out, see if it boosts my results.
It sounds funny as fuck though - so I'm sure it would be a good thing cause the entire time I would be self-ammusing the shit outta the pull.
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Manwhore wrote:
 I dedicated an entire podcast to this idea of "non compliant" pulls 

Podcast #3 
Actually getting into the "tricking" thing?
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boondock saint

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Yeah why are you trying to trick her in the first place? "Oh I need some air oh no I need to go to the atm oh no I dont have my debit card oh look were back at my house lets make sweet love baby."
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scottsdale

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it sounds odd huh... but interesting none-the-less... Actually what makes me most curious is the statement that girls want to be out smarted, its just one of those statements that dont make any sense but you know could be dead on! fuckin crazy bitches buahahah.

I'm already gonna try this in field, but thinking about it, its not like you are really tricking the girl - you both know whats going on, really you are taking the responsiblity and leading the interaction in such a way that makes it "OK" for her to accept. Thats the way I'm seeing this.
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scottsdale wrote:
it sounds odd huh... but interesting none-the-less... Actually what makes me most curious is the statement that girls want to be out smarted, its just one of those statements that dont make any sense but you know could be dead on! fuckin crazy bitches buahahah.

I'm already gonna try this in field, but thinking about it, its not like you are really tricking the girl - you both know whats going on, really you are taking the responsiblity and leading the interaction in such a way that makes it "OK" for her to accept. Thats the way I'm seeing this.
yeah its like, some girls just cant handle anything being made explicit  - they need full plausible deniability, not just to those who are actually watching but to their inner parent or some shit.  It's just being considerate of how she wants it to go down really - some girls need time, others need it to be FULLY discrete and unmentioned / un- implied right up until they are in bed with you with the lights out.  To the newbie eye it looks like they do not want sex at all.  Then in the morning they're all over you for round 2, hanging on for you to take the number, etc etc. 
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AustinCC

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 hahaha i just realized I do it all the time!!!!! Matter of fact, I did it yesterday before I read your post. I'm going to incorporate this in to pulling from clubs and bars more often.


http://www.rsdnation.com/node/185653/forum?page=1#comment-723166


WEDNESDAY (5/4) OUT BY THE POOL

Old Friend flaked again. Not really surprised, so I called up one of the girls I fooled around with awhile back,

In a commanding tone, I said,
"Hey, what are you doing?"

She responds,
"sitting out by the pool tanning"

In the same tone,
"come over, my pool is better"

...and that was that. Simple as fuck. I'm going to make a habit of calling girls straight up more often. A half hour later she comes over, we go upstairs "to check out my new carpet," dry hump and get our orgasms out. God she gives good dome. I never really thought about this, but I just read a post about non-compliant pulling and I realized, I do it ALL THE TIME. I just need to make it a habit when I'm out at bars and clubs.
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