THE FORUMS
Listening to my core, I know its time to truly stop smoking for good. I feel like this will be another uphill battle initally.
Has anyone gone through this before? Tips? advice?
I have had three people really close to me who smoked a lot of pot, and I myself used to drink alcohol. Quitting anything that is a pain-reliever and a part of your identity is really fucking hard. Really hard. Of the three people who were close to me, as far as I know two are still smoking pot. And I think this is a very big tendency. There are a LOT of people using dope who are trying to fit into the "take it or leave it".... category. Yet they never quit.
I used to believe the people who said it was no big deal....but both of these people I know ( one is my brother) ....are quite screwed up right now. Their ablity to process reality is as damaged as the ability to process feelings. THAT is the deal with pot. You don't want to be a "Sheen" character where you're the last to know you're out of control.
One guy I know quite well and who remains a good friend smoked pot DAILY from aged 12 to 21. He went through a ton of shit as he came off of it...and this guy has never smoked again ( he's 30 now). But he did go through some really hard times. He's in my opinion one of the coolest people I know. The other guys are awesome people too. But they keep smoking and smoking...day after day....I believe a lot of their problems come from their drug use. They do not. And neither do their friends...who are mostly pot smokers.
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this is a really touchy topic and i would like to put in my own 2 cents, although it is MUCH more than 2 cents as I am about to spew some very deep insights on weed as I used to be a daily smoker.
do not believe the media, society, or pot heads. none of them are correct. weed is as much a destructive substance as is anything else in life, when abused or used wrongly; such as a gun.
smoking weed every day is an ignorant economic choice but above all even more detrimental to your productiveness, future success, and emotions.
smoking weed on certain occasions, weekends, and all around 'right' times is allright. The problem is not the weed itself, but those who use it at the wrong times and for the wrong reasons further hurting themselves from being productive happy individuals.
enough with this intellectual talk here's my first hand story with some of my friends' first hand experiences too.
I'm in highschool, its one of those things. I started out 2 summers ago i was curious, smoked half a J by myself and got nothing, then another half a J and nothing. then one day before school when i went to my new school went to a parking lot with 4 friends (including 2, whom i used to view as hot, girls) we got high listened to music it was the mofucking shit. i had it under control and saw it as NO BIG DEAL easy peasy. but later on that year i was hanging around a senior friend of mine who obviously had nothing much left to do so we would smoke with these two girls a lot that both liked us during school and it was sooo coool to us and sooo fun and sooo beautiful the connections we formed with those we did it with that progressively we did more and more frequently.
now he is in one of the top 50 universities in the country, and #1 university in our state and on the verge of getting kicked out for bad grades. my grades that junior semester until the end of my first semester of senior year dropped and my focus in math and the handling of math concepts started slacking as i was more high in math class then sober. I mean i still have a 4.5 gpa due to my natural intelligence or rather as i like to say more humbly (memory capacity + imagination/quick thinking + focus + past education/knowledge=intelligence). and im still going to a top 50 school, but not the #1 in my state instead the #2 due to my slacking and lack of focus in school thanks to MY ABUSE of weed. It is both our faults, we let it happen, NOT the drug. and although i am not a failure YET and probably never will BE what others would consider a failure, what has hurt me the most is KNOWING I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. knowing i was able to pull a 4.5 gpa while smoking on a daily basis mornings and nights etc this year and an act score of 29 it almost hurts me to know..that I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. i am not a failure to others but i realize that the more i smoke or if i would have continued to smoke weed..more importantly i would have been a FAILURE TO MYSELF.
no one is a failure, unless they are failing to operate at their maximum or near maximum capacity in their fitness and intellectual goals.
as for the emotional effects of weed, they are there. my friend who is failing college is an extremely emotional guy, he's pretty erratic and ive noticed now that ive been taking a now 1 week break of complete no weed that things started improving day 1-2 intellectually and emotionally.
my grades improved, im on top of my game (life wise not girls), and when i stopped it helped me to realize that more important than women in my life is my future success, oh yea and the chicks are coming in harder than ever too lol .
in terms of social awareness people take you more seriously when you smoke less or aren't high around them as much during the day time, i lost the elections in school mostly due to this although it was a verrrrry tight race i almost won. i want to run for president of student government eventually in college and go on to a top 15 university and achieve the success i can earn and i deserve to help others around me and quite frankly be the best and get the best out of life.
this is not to say i have quit forever as i know i will occasionally smoke on the weekends with friends and such and such; but now that i fully realized how much better my life is when the weed is not controlling my life i will make sure it never gets to the level it once was ever again.
on a side note, as for its addictiveness i cannot say how it will affect you as i used to roll my own tobacco ciggarettes for about a month, occasionally smoke a ciggarrete of tobacco every three months or randomly and i was able to completely kick that; i am also pretty in control of sweets and bad foods in my diet and verrrry dedicated to my workouts/gym work much more than the average individual even working out when im DEAD SICKK. to me weed was not so much an addiction but more so a HABIT the first 2-5 days i would think 'mm damn id usually smoke a J or a blunt right about now and it would definitely be nice to smoke some right now as i usually do it' instead of an 'i need to smoke' . but so far halfway through this 2 week break i promised id take it feels pretty damn good, tomorrow will be officially the longest i have gone NOT smoking weed since the first semester of last year, my junior year and it feels pretty damn good.
on a final note I do not look down upon those who smoke every day etc etc some people still achieve success without it (my boy Wiz Khalifa anyonnee? lol) and more power to them but i know at least for me it wasn't the best choice for me intellectually, economically (shits money down the drain), physically, and emotionally. I also think that anyone who is smoking weed every day should try to atleast take a 2 week break of complete no weed smoking and see how they feel; they might benefit and im pretty sure if people like Wiz smoked less they might be able to come out with more snazzy word plays and rap for us.
thanks for read, just knowing someone out there might benefit from this post and possibly open the minds of those who HATE on weed excessively and those who LOVE on it excessively It has made the time it took to write all worth it.
excuse the grammatical errors and shit i just came back from the gym, im tired, and you get the message.
Peace,
Rockstargame.
do not believe the media, society, or pot heads. none of them are correct. weed is as much a destructive substance as is anything else in life, when abused or used wrongly; such as a gun.
smoking weed every day is an ignorant economic choice but above all even more detrimental to your productiveness, future success, and emotions.
smoking weed on certain occasions, weekends, and all around 'right' times is allright. The problem is not the weed itself, but those who use it at the wrong times and for the wrong reasons further hurting themselves from being productive happy individuals.
enough with this intellectual talk here's my first hand story with some of my friends' first hand experiences too.
I'm in highschool, its one of those things. I started out 2 summers ago i was curious, smoked half a J by myself and got nothing, then another half a J and nothing. then one day before school when i went to my new school went to a parking lot with 4 friends (including 2, whom i used to view as hot, girls) we got high listened to music it was the mofucking shit. i had it under control and saw it as NO BIG DEAL easy peasy. but later on that year i was hanging around a senior friend of mine who obviously had nothing much left to do so we would smoke with these two girls a lot that both liked us during school and it was sooo coool to us and sooo fun and sooo beautiful the connections we formed with those we did it with that progressively we did more and more frequently.
now he is in one of the top 50 universities in the country, and #1 university in our state and on the verge of getting kicked out for bad grades. my grades that junior semester until the end of my first semester of senior year dropped and my focus in math and the handling of math concepts started slacking as i was more high in math class then sober. I mean i still have a 4.5 gpa due to my natural intelligence or rather as i like to say more humbly (memory capacity + imagination/quick thinking + focus + past education/knowledge=intelligence). and im still going to a top 50 school, but not the #1 in my state instead the #2 due to my slacking and lack of focus in school thanks to MY ABUSE of weed. It is both our faults, we let it happen, NOT the drug. and although i am not a failure YET and probably never will BE what others would consider a failure, what has hurt me the most is KNOWING I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. knowing i was able to pull a 4.5 gpa while smoking on a daily basis mornings and nights etc this year and an act score of 29 it almost hurts me to know..that I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER. i am not a failure to others but i realize that the more i smoke or if i would have continued to smoke weed..more importantly i would have been a FAILURE TO MYSELF.
no one is a failure, unless they are failing to operate at their maximum or near maximum capacity in their fitness and intellectual goals.
as for the emotional effects of weed, they are there. my friend who is failing college is an extremely emotional guy, he's pretty erratic and ive noticed now that ive been taking a now 1 week break of complete no weed that things started improving day 1-2 intellectually and emotionally.
my grades improved, im on top of my game (life wise not girls), and when i stopped it helped me to realize that more important than women in my life is my future success, oh yea and the chicks are coming in harder than ever too lol .
in terms of social awareness people take you more seriously when you smoke less or aren't high around them as much during the day time, i lost the elections in school mostly due to this although it was a verrrrry tight race i almost won. i want to run for president of student government eventually in college and go on to a top 15 university and achieve the success i can earn and i deserve to help others around me and quite frankly be the best and get the best out of life.
this is not to say i have quit forever as i know i will occasionally smoke on the weekends with friends and such and such; but now that i fully realized how much better my life is when the weed is not controlling my life i will make sure it never gets to the level it once was ever again.
on a side note, as for its addictiveness i cannot say how it will affect you as i used to roll my own tobacco ciggarettes for about a month, occasionally smoke a ciggarrete of tobacco every three months or randomly and i was able to completely kick that; i am also pretty in control of sweets and bad foods in my diet and verrrry dedicated to my workouts/gym work much more than the average individual even working out when im DEAD SICKK. to me weed was not so much an addiction but more so a HABIT the first 2-5 days i would think 'mm damn id usually smoke a J or a blunt right about now and it would definitely be nice to smoke some right now as i usually do it' instead of an 'i need to smoke' . but so far halfway through this 2 week break i promised id take it feels pretty damn good, tomorrow will be officially the longest i have gone NOT smoking weed since the first semester of last year, my junior year and it feels pretty damn good.
on a final note I do not look down upon those who smoke every day etc etc some people still achieve success without it (my boy Wiz Khalifa anyonnee? lol) and more power to them but i know at least for me it wasn't the best choice for me intellectually, economically (shits money down the drain), physically, and emotionally. I also think that anyone who is smoking weed every day should try to atleast take a 2 week break of complete no weed smoking and see how they feel; they might benefit and im pretty sure if people like Wiz smoked less they might be able to come out with more snazzy word plays and rap for us.
thanks for read, just knowing someone out there might benefit from this post and possibly open the minds of those who HATE on weed excessively and those who LOVE on it excessively It has made the time it took to write all worth it.
excuse the grammatical errors and shit i just came back from the gym, im tired, and you get the message.
Peace,
Rockstargame.
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Didn't read massive posts after OP's but cliffs beacuse I'm lazy
Smoked pot 5 years, my mind said TIME TO STOP
so I stoped, cold turkey, I have smoked maybe 5 times, in the last 5 years....and i would NEVER EVER SMOKE and go out now, it freaks me out.
None of my friends miinus one smoke pot, its all who you hang with bra
hang with the people that drink , thats what I did....
wait fail
Smoked pot 5 years, my mind said TIME TO STOP
so I stoped, cold turkey, I have smoked maybe 5 times, in the last 5 years....and i would NEVER EVER SMOKE and go out now, it freaks me out.
None of my friends miinus one smoke pot, its all who you hang with bra
hang with the people that drink , thats what I did....
wait fail
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I love weed but it fucks with my productivity.
I go to school at night and I have a job that requires serious thought. If I smoke I can't focus for shit for atleast the next two days.
I use to be a pot head, but also worked in jewelery retail so no thinking, just spewing off bullshit. Anyways, I was strangely able to sell amazingly (expensive shit) high but out at social situations I get very quiet. Very in my head and anti social.
The wierd thing is if i'm completely SHIT FACED DRUNK and I smoke a little I am the biggest player in the world. I am fucking ON like donkey kong.
But overall after smoking everyday for like 5-6 years straight. I've been clean, except for a few times, for like 5 months. I think not smoking for ME is a better choice. Some people can swear by it, but it affects every part of my life.
A doctor once told me that your mood is like a pendalum, if you use substances to push it towards pleasure it'll swing back to pain. So over using substances typically depresses me next few days after. So I gotta watch out for that.
My rambling on experiences with pot. You figure out what's right for you.
I go to school at night and I have a job that requires serious thought. If I smoke I can't focus for shit for atleast the next two days.
I use to be a pot head, but also worked in jewelery retail so no thinking, just spewing off bullshit. Anyways, I was strangely able to sell amazingly (expensive shit) high but out at social situations I get very quiet. Very in my head and anti social.
The wierd thing is if i'm completely SHIT FACED DRUNK and I smoke a little I am the biggest player in the world. I am fucking ON like donkey kong.
But overall after smoking everyday for like 5-6 years straight. I've been clean, except for a few times, for like 5 months. I think not smoking for ME is a better choice. Some people can swear by it, but it affects every part of my life.
A doctor once told me that your mood is like a pendalum, if you use substances to push it towards pleasure it'll swing back to pain. So over using substances typically depresses me next few days after. So I gotta watch out for that.
My rambling on experiences with pot. You figure out what's right for you.
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Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"
“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”
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Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"
“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”
Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman
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I think any addiction where you know it's bad but keep doing it is a major sign of weakness. This is why I'm having so much trouble with cigarettes. Ive been trying to quit and have been successful at cutting down but still didn't quit 100%. This brings me to potheads, I like you since your not in denial, but most of them say weed had no bad effects on them and that they are not addicted, yet they smoke for years, are lazy and unmotivated and constantly make excuses for their lackluster lives and for the goals they didn't achieve. You should work on quitting man. It's a process you have to go through to get stronger just like me with cigarettes. You can do it.
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It definitely takes the edge off.
joe rogan put it the best way possible.
if youre a low watt bulb being charged with jet fuel youre still going to be a low watt bulb.
pot does wonders for me, it calms me down and lets me do my own thing. i work out like a motherfucker, i eat like a motherfucker, im fully into what im doing when im doing it, i feel great. but you know what? i feel like this even when im not smoking or wasnt smoking.
chances are if youre lazy, youre going to be even lazier on pot, if youre shy youll retreat even more inside, if youre imaginitive youll be really creative.
i hate all those stupid people who will enter this thread saying OH POTS DANGEROUS AND WILL MAKE YOU DUMB. bro you were already dumb to begin with. its not going to turn you into Einstein or Picasso. but if you were half a picasso youre going to become pretty much full picasso on it.
weed is all about self-regulation you can smoke a joint everyday and be fine. its not the substance thats addictive its your brain that makes you need it.
if youre a low watt bulb being charged with jet fuel youre still going to be a low watt bulb.
pot does wonders for me, it calms me down and lets me do my own thing. i work out like a motherfucker, i eat like a motherfucker, im fully into what im doing when im doing it, i feel great. but you know what? i feel like this even when im not smoking or wasnt smoking.
chances are if youre lazy, youre going to be even lazier on pot, if youre shy youll retreat even more inside, if youre imaginitive youll be really creative.
i hate all those stupid people who will enter this thread saying OH POTS DANGEROUS AND WILL MAKE YOU DUMB. bro you were already dumb to begin with. its not going to turn you into Einstein or Picasso. but if you were half a picasso youre going to become pretty much full picasso on it.
weed is all about self-regulation you can smoke a joint everyday and be fine. its not the substance thats addictive its your brain that makes you need it.
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Standard issue stuff....the typical "oh it's a grey area unimportant argument". Uh...no it's not. A lot of guys are dealing with this. And remember the OP is obviously not fighting with an "argument". He's facing reality. If we're going to talk reality, pouring masses of mind-altering substances into your brain and body is probably not a good idea. My friends? They were all bigger than this reality. And while they could pretend to themselves that they're fine with their smoking, it was all good.The human body is amazingly resiliant. You can do really bad things to it for years, completely engineer your social group around your bad habits....and even blame something else when the bill comes.
Joe Rogan's addict argument. Naturally he completely avoids people who's lives have been hurt or even wrecked by "soft" drugs....it's called thinking backwards. Start with protecting the habit, and then build your rationalization. Blind spots to anything that would interfere with the drug use.
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yeah i dont want to start a fight or anything here JFM, but if you havent done pot, stay out of the discussion because that makes you look like a try hard wise guy who has to have a say in everything even if he has no experience in it.
besides Joe Rogan isnt some random loser whose got nothing going on for him.
besides Joe Rogan isnt some random loser whose got nothing going on for him.
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I've been working out daily (almost)---- I felt like a lazy fat ass
Getting to work earlier and staying later-- I felt lazy and unproductive
Eating healthier--- whats the point of working out if you eat crappy
Listening to lots of RSD, Tolle, and other life enriching material.--- get the alpha mentality in my brain
Going out 2-3 times a week.........--- getting field experience
With all this trying to be better I still have the "lingering feeling" that I should stop smoking pot. I've tried many times but failed. It's been over 10 years now and am afraid that it has become a part of how I see myself..
From reading the forum I've extrapulated mixed ideas about pot and game.. Some people seems to have no issues with going out stoned or being a stoner.. While others tote the no drugs/drinks mentality.
I've been pondering why exactly am I trying so hard to improve myself.. As of now its a complete uphill battle. Lots of effort w little reward. blow outs galore!! But I keep chuggin along the best I can. Honestly, this forum really helps keep me positive and I truly appreciate all the help from the experienced gents here.
Listening to my core, I know its time to truly stop smoking for good. I feel like this will be another uphill battle initally.
Has anyone gone through this before? Tips? advice?