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July 28th, 2017
Joe Rogan, Psychadelic Drugs and Pickup
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#21
GucciSoIcey

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Showcase wrote:
Anyone done Salvia - it blew up a while back: people say its a psychadelic - i wanna hear fdrom people who did it and what it did to them - im curious, lets hear it


Salvia is definitely an interesting experience, but it's not exactly "a party drug", I only took it three times though back in 2008.

-The first time I had an out of body experience I was like looking over a desert, it seemed reminiscent of like the "Dark World" (if that's the name) from the Zelda game on super nintendo, I also seemed to be talking to my lighter.

-The second time I didn't do enough to trip, and I did it before final exams so i was just like out of it taking standardized tests 30 min after I did it.

-The third and final time I had a bad trip, which was my fault though since I drank a lot of caffein before tripping and my friend had the N.E.R.D. song "Everybody Nose" playing, I ended up with an out of body but I was dancing to the song, seeing more than one of myself and looking down from above, really weird, but I ended up freaking out and I ended up destroying my jeans in the process.

If you decide to try it make sure you use a torch lighter and completely incinerate it, making a waterfall bong out of a glass bottle apparently works well as once of my friends did that while watching a "Devo" DVD and claimed it was fucking crazy, I was in the room with him and he laughed throughout all of the DVD he watched and when he got to this part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf4eu5y0418) he said it felt like they were making him high.
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#22
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 I've been listening to his podcasts ever since Jeffy slightly mentioned them - I highly recommend Joe Rogan, such an awesome guy with awesome communication skills.
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#23
Showcase

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Join Date: 07/30/2009 | Posts: 604

OK so far these are my conclusions so far:

Salvia: Out, I'm not looking for a 5-15 minute... whatever that is

Acid/LSD: Out, I wanna be able to get off the ride if i need to; not so into expirinecing death prematurely

DMT: Out for now; I'm not into communicating with geometric patterns quite yet

Shrooms: Maybe with some cool people in Nature, but I live in Vegas so there really is no Nature to speak of out here - plus i like that i can take smaller doses

Iso-tank: I'm definately in; i mean its just a more amazing form of Meditation; soudns awesome to me - especially talking to the lady who has the tank in vegas - i got her whole life story without asking for it - pretty fun stuff.

BTW : MDMA is the best shit ever - makes pure love happen with everything and on sex is awesome - but i never tried it on MJ
P.S. to SlothfulPizza: What cocain does to you and does to me are two COMPLETELY different things; I get jittery, grind my teeth, paranoid and horny - hate that stuff: strippers love it, go figure
P.P.S. Fuck Trolls/Closed minded people who label things they dont knwo about, they're weak people...
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#24

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I'd say anyone wanting to try psychadelic drugs should take mushrooms, you can regulate the dose, they are highly visual and fits of laughter are not uncommon.

LSD is way more intense and has a tendency to take me to dark places. dont take it anymore since having bad trip after bad trip.

Salvia is like really hardcore but for a short period, id say close to acid. the equivalent of being totally drunk on psychadelics so your not in control of your thoughts or actions and aren't even aware you're not, its just a ride and u hold on tight and see where it takes you.

On acid what can happen to me is the first part - coming up off the acid, laughing feeling really in tune with things, all that is great, but then a negative thought might slip in, or an anxiety about something, and once that seed is planted on the trip, with me, it just grows into a full blown realisation of my fears and i have to ride it out. not fun.

shrooms on the other hand i tend to have more of an ability to take things lightly and not be so gripped by my experiences. sure i can enjoy them and really get involved with the effects, but i can still communicate with others ok, and i dont get dragged off kicking and screaming to fucked up places in my mind.

i went to a psy trance night about 5 years ago and ate 15 raw magic mushrooms that i had picked earlier that day. when i was dancing i could feel the music in my very soul, and when my eyes opened i could see the branches of music in the air, and the patterns it created in and around me. i decided to go upstairs and find my friend who had also taken them, and found him lying on the stairs trying to hide under a hand rail as he looked at me saying 'C'EST MAGIC!', and he cant even speak french. awesome night. if i'd have taken LSD i would have probably ended up crying in a corner. but thats just me.

main rule though, take only with close friends who u feel bond with and trust. and if u decide to go somewhere busy, look out for each other because its not fun if u freak out and all your mates are having too much fun to notice.
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i knew something was up when i could see the spectrum of light coming off of my phone. i laughed when i saw my 3 friends huddled together, slowly walking out of the safe ass house and looking up at the sky. the clouds in the backyard had already twisted into a spiraly blackhole and then morphed into evil spirits - my friend saw a dragon. an evil dragon. 

3 grams of california golden caps. 2 grams of weak shit was the most i'd had prior to this. 

as i lay down, looking up into the sky, i became aware of a small, moving ball of light, slowly eating any clouds around it, like a black hole...only a light hole, and all it wanted was clouds. it took up maybe 1/100th of my total visual field and wasn't anywhere but in the sky. 

but then, i started to notice something in the clouds...that wasn't quite clouds. lizards? no. gekkos. the skeletons of gekkos. and they were moving...all flying, like a flock of birds. they were gigantic and in full HD and 100% real to me. I had a fearful anxiety but talking to my friend returned me to reality a wee bit. 

I went back inside...fuck the gekkos. the sky was rippling like water and i could see lightning moving horizontally. none of my friends could handle what they were seeing either. I laid down on a couch and became hypersensitive in the fact that invisible energy was sapping away the heat of my body and making me feel cold - something that i took for granted every day. it became the cold monster. 

to battle the cold monster i covered myself with a blanket. my friend in his trippin balls stupor discovered that if you cup your hands behind your ears and direct them forward, your hearing improves. we talked shit until we tried it and it blew our minds. then the blanket started to eat me. the feeling was terrible. after that though, the feeling didnt go away - i couldn't touch anything without realizing that i was only a force of energy and that "contact" was only a figment of my imagination and there was only the interaction of energy. 

then i died. i had the most god horrible fucking experience i have ever had in my life. human spirits moved along the edges of the walls, beckoning me to death. i fought it for a few seconds, but then i gave in, and asked them to show me...careful what you wish for. 

there was no night or day, there was only human perception. there was no going back to my family, all of the people that i had ever loved and all of the experiences that I had ever had were nullified. I was in a state of pure horror, grief, and anxiety. my friends decided to walk to 7-11 (LOL). i tried to sleep, but saw my reflection in a tv and became explosively frightened because i had no recollection of myself. imagine looking at yourself but seeing another person, as if you were not human at all, and had never been, while in a state of pure horror....god damn. 

i drove home. oddly enough, i was sober as fuck as i drove home but still in a panic state. when i got outta my truck though, it was back to old fucked up in the ass universe of bullshit. i threw up and felt a pain i could not describe to you in words, feeling the weight of my life coming to an end. 

i heard a voice say "if i can survive this...i can survive anything" with conviction. i wandered back into my room and laid down on my bed. the souls from the walls at the other house had followed me to my house and were now watching me as i lay writhing and frightened on my bed, watching my pillows inflate in size and being generally terrified. i remember, though, before i fell asleep, i started to feel love - so much love it hurt, like pure love and nothing else. i fell asleep. 

i woke up the next day more relieved than i had ever been, realizing the fleeting nature of life, the uncertainty of death, and a new appreciation for my sobriety, my friends, and my family. the fibonacci spiral became a beautiful reflection point for me. 

and all of it went down on april 1st. fucked up ya? april 1st is the only fucking day of the year you can't trust -any- news or media information you receive. this is not a fun realization to come to on mushrooms. 
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Never tried psychadelics before in my life, so I figured its about time. Do you have any idea, how fucking hard it is to find this stuff from the outside. Anyways I got shrooms off this dodgy dealer and they made me feel fuzzy and thats IT. So I took the next step and ordered shroom spores. Now I'm going to grow my own babies and meet God and such soon.
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#27
MonkeyMind

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Psychedelics are great as long as you take the time afterward to integrate what you learned...  it's not like recreational drugs that you take all the time for fun.
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#28
Deft

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Im with monkey mind on that one, If you want to have the 100% life changing connecting with the Universe experience you want to do psychedelics either by yourself or preferably with close friends.

If you are interested in Mushrooms Id recommend you try it as a medative experience, you guys have the Canyon up there which looks fucking awesome man, take some time and go full nature, camp fire lots of water food to cook a bottle of vodka to smooth things out and you are ready to go, NO WEED, you dont want to mix things out you want to experience the shoorms directly.

My first time with shrooms was nothing id expect, Mother nature which has a name (said it to me but I dont remember) spoke to me and said that shell take care of me,  then I started to see plants in my minds eye growing and this inmense peaceful state started to take ahold of me, I started to laugh about all the bullshit drama we all put ourselfs into because we are little trolls that cant stand being by ourselfs, weird thing is that I though I just had an illusion and was kind of embarrased to tell people about it since it was too tripped out, but it turns out that the indians in peru that have thousands of years of that knowledge say the common trip is that you encounter the shroom spirit, the "pacha mama" (mother nature) or the natures guardians.
Fucked up shit...

Good luck.

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#29
Showcase

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Join Date: 07/30/2009 | Posts: 604

Thank you to all who are sharing here on this thread, very cool - very eye-opening

Deft: is that Canyon in Red Rock or where, looks amazing and thanks for the advice

Monkey Mind: I like where thatis going because the catalyst for these questions came from my meditation practice and my previous expirience with MDMA and Weed which I don't consider to be 'drugs' like I consider Cocaine, Tobacco or Alcohol because they are constructive and most drugs are innbriating and destructive.

Drama: I've been on a Health kick for a while now; i almost consider this as part of becoming healthier, especially the isolation tank; expanding the mind past the ego and into new possibilities - I've just decided in the same way i got into this community: if there is something out there that can take me to a new level that i can't acheive thru my own day to day life; i need to at least try it and see what it really is.  I'm optimistic but stubborn as always - just like this community was for me: at first i wasn't impressed but once i pealed away my own selfish desires and started learnign instead of seeking, it turned out to be more then i originally expected, in a way i couldn't have prepared for. 
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#30
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Speedy drugs like MDMA, and amphetimines are not good for your body. I feel like everyone should try MDMA a few times, but you dont wanna over do it. You will end up looking like Deadmau5 real fast.
If you are fat though u will probably still be fat.

Coffee is super safe, and delicous when proporly prepared.

As for mmmJ, the legal concequences are the only negatives there. As much as you would like to think you live in a free society, you do not. PLANTS are illegal, we are
not free my friends. :(  OBAMA does not care, lets hope another wild card comes along that does this election year.

But if u like cancer causing tobacco go for it, thats legal to blow in ppls faces on the street. FDA- Fucking Dumb Asses
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