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December 7th, 2016
Jed Mckenna.....
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Skyisthelimit

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..... Well read it and .... wow.....








I do see why Tyler hesitated to recommend it...and Brad said too it depressed all his friend after having read it...

I mean I dunno if I figured it all out, but the obvious is pretty obvious and after having gotten some "insights" you can't rly go back hahhahah
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Tell us more about it. What is so special about it?
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Cmon dude help a rookie out, what did you get out of it?
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One of the best books I've ever read. The main thing I got out of it was to think for yourself. 

He talks a lot how people blindly follow spiritual gurus and beliefs that have no basis in reality. I remember doing that with Eckhart Tolle; I would just read his books and trust everything because he was coming from a guru position. The paradox with McKenna's book is that he too can be viewed as a guru (which is why I suspect people get fucked up from it). You can get caught in the trap of blindly following his views, even though his message is to not blindly follow anyone, including himself. Ultimately, you have to think for yourself when reading the book, and while you may or may not agree with the content, the wake up call, in itself, makes the book fantastic.
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haha yeah i remember when brad warned in his blog that a lot of people who read jed get all fucked up and i was like "ha ain't gonna be me tho"...

was me
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GaryBusey wrote:
Tell us more about it. What is so special about it?

Well...The book is basically all about asking yourself and finding out for yourself what is true...

and in the end you realise theres not much left....All of which was important to you is just bullshit/illusion.

What's the meaning of life? There is no meaning...
And all the Bullshit we make up to give our own lives meaning is basically just to cover up the fear from not wanting to cope with fear of uncertainty/pointlessness...

Sounds depressing? Hmm kinda is. But I think once you accept it fully it isn't depressing anymore. It's only depressing as long as you cling to your old beliefs. And I guess once you realise truth, sooner or later you'll accept reality.


BUT BUT BUT the uplifting message is. a)"enlightenment" is not great. You won't feel better, superior or get superpowers and you won't even escape the downfalls of life and he asks, why would anyone want to be enlightened and b) in one of his poems, the question arises why would you want to live in delusion, basically dreaming ( AKA putting meaning into life, family, work, friends whatever ) and he asks " Why not?"


I gotta say I just read the book few days ago. What's the benefits of it? Hmm I guess when you have awareness that everything is just pointless even if you still play the "game of life" you can just release stress and outcome dependence.

Also I think it made me more aware of illusion. You need that one girl to be happy? You're sure you're not projecting bullshitego onto this stuff....

A lot of other shit too. I guess it makes you enjoy the moment more because as Tolle says that's the only thing there is but also gives you a lot of freedom. Life is just an illusion so why not make the best out of it...Get rich, get the hottest girls, become well-read, have the coolest friends, make your own spiritual cult  ...............WHY NOT? ;)



Skyy



Edit: Oh yea and you had problems realising how arbitrary social value is and didn't feel you're high value enough for the hot girls? Well then, what about all value on this world is arbitrary, maybe that will make you a little more decisive and confident just because you can and nothing stops you ;)
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Why not!
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no such thing as enlightenment.. mckenna was trying to say that
Skyisthelimit wrote:




GaryBusey wrote:
Tell us more about it. What is so special about it?

Well...The book is basically all about asking yourself and finding out for yourself what is true...

and in the end you realise theres not much left....All of which was important to you is just bullshit/illusion.

What's the meaning of life? There is no meaning...
And all the Bullshit we make up to give our own lives meaning is basically just to cover up the fear from not wanting to cope with fear of uncertainty/pointlessness...

Sounds depressing? Hmm kinda is. But I think once you accept it fully it isn't depressing anymore. It's only depressing as long as you cling to your old beliefs. And I guess once you realise truth, sooner or later you'll accept reality.


BUT BUT BUT the uplifting message is. a)"enlightenment" is not great. You won't feel better, superior or get superpowers and you won't even escape the downfalls of life and he asks, why would anyone want to be enlightened and b) in one of his poems, the question arises why would you want to live in delusion, basically dreaming ( AKA putting meaning into life, family, work, friends whatever ) and he asks " Why not?"


I gotta say I just read the book few days ago. What's the benefits of it? Hmm I guess when you have awareness that everything is just pointless even if you still play the "game of life" you can just release stress and outcome dependence.

Also I think it made me more aware of illusion. You need that one girl to be happy? You're sure you're not projecting bullshitego onto this stuff....

A lot of other shit too. I guess it makes you enjoy the moment more because as Tolle says that's the only thing there is but also gives you a lot of freedom. Life is just an illusion so why not make the best out of it...Get rich, get the hottest girls, become well-read, have the coolest friends, make your own spiritual cult  ...............WHY NOT? ;)



Skyy



Edit: Oh yea and you had problems realising how arbitrary social value is and didn't feel you're high value enough for the hot girls? Well then, what about all value on this world is arbitrary, maybe that will make you a little more decisive and confident just because you can and nothing stops you ;)
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Hahha funnily I was thinking today....Am I not enlightened now???I Mean whatelse should I know

Then I got stuck into thinking if Im enlightened and how awesome that would be....

Hmm I didn't get where he said you couldn't be enlightened? In the first book when the 16 or 18year old girl says: oh you're rly enlightened. you're not bullshitting.   he seems to agree.

Also hes talking all the time about maybe there only being 12-24 enlightened or awake people in the whole world....

I dunno. I guess thinking about if you're enlightened or not can only me mental ego masturbation. Basically why even bother? Who gives a fuck about if you're enlightened or not. Actually you can only be enlightened if some people are UNenlightened. So it's back to other people being your mirrors, you can only be enlightened, when other people see you as so. Or if you constantly need to reassure yourself of other people being unenlightened.

I like no-self anyways better than enlightenment. I guess living with No-Self would mean knowing that all identity is bullshit and therefore all thoughts and bla or unimportant and living all the time in accordance to that.  But I dunno rly. I guess further thinking about this is thinking in circles so fuck it haha
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Yea there's no "back" button on that shit haha.  Its like "Oh fuck, what'd I just get myself into...I just wanted to get good with girls now I'm up at 4AM with existential despair..."
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lol
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