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WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU REALIZED YOU WERE OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL?
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ambiguity

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Tyler wrote:
I've got videos on this topic coming out over the next few weeks.  2 Denver Free Tour videos on deck, then the videos on this topic.

Tyler



Owen mate, its appreciated. Definitely will check it out. I want to checkout this Gabor Mate' fella as well. I suppose this is addiction. I am thinking I can be a better role model for my brother. Not chode but, not glamorizing insanity or stupidity either.

Part of me turns to spirituality and self help when in a downward spiral and manic low. Still, part of me is cynical and questioning the cause. Ecky is good but the live under a rock mentality is and meditate is absurd. I like millman. I like Tony and Ecky. I imagine, there really is no path but what we make for ourselves. I realize greed, lust, ignorance, hate, desire are all sins but typically, human nature
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Hmm isn't Russel Brand very into meditation and spirituality? I've seen many interviews with him lately where he mentions it.
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Ozzie wrote:
you must realize show biz glamorizes everything including drug addiction. the reality of addicts to substance like sharlie sheen are far away from glamour. i am sure if you ask his family, the ones closer to him, they would have a different opinion. hollywood needs to glamorize these things to sell them. nobody would be interested in knowing about some deadbeat heroin user who spends his time in the dark shooting up. for the reality on drugs you must watch this movie called "enter the void". it is pretty scary.
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ambiguity wrote:


http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-and-naked-in-ny-pl...

http://www.thewrap.com/television/column-post/charlie-sheen-found-naked-...


There is a balance between pulling hotties and rimming fucking randoms be it call girls or guying anything that moves.

At a certain point, there is something so soulless about all this and even pointless.

Charlie Sheen in his 50s is at it with hotties be it SMOKE SHOW randoms or call girls. Nobody parties like this cunt.

My philosophy in life is: I don't chase; I replace.

If not her, there will be others. Its not fucking personal.

I've did it all and some of it, I am ashamed of and not quite proud of it all.

There have been some serious life lessons along the way.

I have been sacked before, written up, made mistakes that have implicated my career, bar fights, woken up in random hotel rooms with women I don't even recall meeting.

Most recently, I had finally hit the point where I am truly out of fucking control.

Reading shit about Russell Brand or Charlie Sheen is fucking a blast and highly entertaining.

Living this way is totally another story.

There is something so sickening and soulless about it.

After all is said and done, I feel a lack of spirituality and realize, the only thing I have gained from it all my antics is guilt.

So what is the answer?


I met a bloke in LAX last week. The fella was in his mid 40s. A complete "Chode" as you fellas on RSD would say. Heart broken over his divorce from his ex wife, out 100,000$ from his wife, lost house, most of possessions, raised kids, and gave up everything. He hadn't been laid in 16yrs. I exchanged stories with him and I could see the excitement and thrill he seeks. I could see him admiring me despite the age difference. He would tell me about chatting up women at work or at a concert. Spent hours there but, not ask for a number or to pick her up. I told him to just take her hand and lead her out of the place and he looked shocked. He marvelled at pics and videos I had on my phone. I tried to give him the best advise I could to help him with women to make something of his life but, then again, who am I do that? It turns out, he spent the past decade obsessing over his friend. When other men come around, he would get pissed, and upset. He would chase more and she would fuck these guys yet, keep him on the side as a crutch when she got played. This angered me. It annoys me how men can be so weak and pathetic.

Living like Charlie Sheen isn't the answer but, nor is living like a loser either. I am not sure what the answer is but, I know for a fact, I am out of fucking control.



no u r not. u have to embrace the emptiness of life. you can never be fulfilled. not with women not with money not with a great lifestyle.
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baconfever wrote:
Hmm isn't Russel Brand very into meditation and spirituality? I've seen many interviews with him lately where he mentions it.
He believes in God, spirituality, and meditation, prayer like myself despite the irony.
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Been down the drug path. Mate, it ain`t pretty.

JFMs advise and many others are spot on. Looking forward to seeing this video from tyler shortly.

Its funny when you deem, `this or that as chode.

For example, Brad Pitt in the movie Meet Joe Black could be deemed as a chode in the coffee shop scene.

Still, he pulls it off. Yes, it is a movie but, that sort of demeanor is what I bring to the table. Its that confidence and getting the girl.

Not aiming to win her over but, she is head over heels. Ironically enough, I usually disregard her & acquire dance moves or something utterly outrageous.

Few on the go. No scarcity mind insight or intentions.

Aim of focus at the moment is 1) build myself 2) Project myself further into my career - make more money - move up - make my millions 3) spend time with quality women which means HIT ON EVERT GIRL I THINK IS HOT - SCREEN HARD!!!

I am only partaking in quality women from here on. No more random sluts. I will hook up but, I am looking to bring a more genuine approach. Of all the hook ups I have, few are memerable, and worth while.

That stunner from NYC, the few from Europe, Australia, Montreal, and so on. Its the jewels I want not so much the high volume of pulls.

A couple quality girls on the go. Several parties, clubs, and bar runs with a variety of women. Throwing myself back in the mix.

Had a couple situations where I ran into a possible cancer scare, std scare, and a variety of other issues. Biopsy went well. Waiting for results but, looks like I am in the clear.

Cannot say I wont go hard in the future cause, I know I will but, if the prize is worth it, why the hell not?

Seeking some more balance. I get it. Jeffy has rammed it in my head. ``The good girl will put out.`` I know. Still, its the worthy pursuits I am looking to get into. I find my heart beating faster then it has over a girl more recently. What this means?

Time will tell. Definitely watching out for my little bro who is skull fucking girls & bathroom pulling random cuties his age and older.

I need to be a better role model and give himself something to aim for. He has already got my support and approval. He knows he hasn`t got to seek it from me.

Eye is ont he prize!


berlinrsd wrote:

ambiguity wrote:


http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-and-naked-in-ny-pl...

http://www.thewrap.com/television/column-post/charlie-sheen-found-naked-...


There is a balance between pulling hotties and rimming fucking randoms be it call girls or guying anything that moves.

At a certain point, there is something so soulless about all this and even pointless.

Charlie Sheen in his 50s is at it with hotties be it SMOKE SHOW randoms or call girls. Nobody parties like this cunt.

My philosophy in life is: I don't chase; I replace.

If not her, there will be others. Its not fucking personal.

I've did it all and some of it, I am ashamed of and not quite proud of it all.

There have been some serious life lessons along the way.

I have been sacked before, written up, made mistakes that have implicated my career, bar fights, woken up in random hotel rooms with women I don't even recall meeting.

Most recently, I had finally hit the point where I am truly out of fucking control.

Reading shit about Russell Brand or Charlie Sheen is fucking a blast and highly entertaining.

Living this way is totally another story.

There is something so sickening and soulless about it.

After all is said and done, I feel a lack of spirituality and realize, the only thing I have gained from it all my antics is guilt.

So what is the answer?


I met a bloke in LAX last week. The fella was in his mid 40s. A complete "Chode" as you fellas on RSD would say. Heart broken over his divorce from his ex wife, out 100,000$ from his wife, lost house, most of possessions, raised kids, and gave up everything. He hadn't been laid in 16yrs. I exchanged stories with him and I could see the excitement and thrill he seeks. I could see him admiring me despite the age difference. He would tell me about chatting up women at work or at a concert. Spent hours there but, not ask for a number or to pick her up. I told him to just take her hand and lead her out of the place and he looked shocked. He marvelled at pics and videos I had on my phone. I tried to give him the best advise I could to help him with women to make something of his life but, then again, who am I do that? It turns out, he spent the past decade obsessing over his friend. When other men come around, he would get pissed, and upset. He would chase more and she would fuck these guys yet, keep him on the side as a crutch when she got played. This angered me. It annoys me how men can be so weak and pathetic.

Living like Charlie Sheen isn't the answer but, nor is living like a loser either. I am not sure what the answer is but, I know for a fact, I am out of fucking control.



no u r not. u have to embrace the emptiness of life. you can never be fulfilled. not with women not with money not with a great lifestyle.
take acid with someone sober
what's next?

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Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#! Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.


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#97

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Why is Russel Brand mentioned in the same thread, let alone the same sentence as Charlie Sheen?

The only spirituality that guy has is some pseudo-hollywood, fly by night, whatever is the new cool tool belief.

Get married in some indian ceremony to a blow up doll that keeps the chode's numb as she shakes her tits...give me a break.

Yet when Charlie briefly found god, he just found himself

I think you have a problem with reality, not one person here will ever get close to even fathoming what Charlie has done in his lifetime, and if they did 1/10th of the partying he has......they would have been dead a long time ago.

You champ aren't even in the same league let alone the same universe ......it would go a long way instead of studying how Russel Brand walks on stage to just walking your own path

There is rich guys + poor guys all over the world pulling 100+ girls a year that aren't having meltdowns ...seems like you are a bit of a drama queen
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ambiguity wrote:

Aim of focus at the moment is 1) build myself 2) Project myself further into my career - make more money - move up - make my millions 3) spend time with quality women which means HIT ON EVERT GIRL I THINK IS HOT - SCREEN HARD!!!

I am only partaking in quality women from here on. No more random sluts. I will hook up but, I am looking to bring a more genuine approach. Of all the hook ups I have, few are memerable, and worth while.

Interesting the above comment, and I'll tell you in a second what I think about that.

I think it's always good to remember that old saying, "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom".    It's true you know.   I'd say you're on track, you're not a weirdo, you're not "melting down" ( in the sense that you're fucked up beyond repair or some such BS), and life could unfold into some really good opportunity.  You're an excellent guy.  You deserve to win.

Addiction or codependency or whatever LABEL you want to give it boils down to what Gabor Mate is saying.

1. Not getting what you need at the PRIMAL level.
2. Early adversity ( especially the fantasy bond with parents and family that blocks this reality..same as outright abuse)
3. Stuck in some level of a grieving not getting what you need ( denial-anger( rage)-negotiation-sadness-acceptance).

Most people haven't got a clue what forgiveness is.   It's cracking the denial and getting help and being seen and letting go and getting your SELF back.  Doing the grieving and being seen while you do it. 

When you recognize you HAVE that self.....you want to care for it.   That's self esteem.   Look at your above comment.   You are in the disease of "I" for sure.   Nothing in there is about community and giving value and SERVING.  Zero.  You spell out the human condition.  The Hungry Ghost.

Serving isn't "boring responsibility".   Serving is sharing the wealth to have more.   You feel so great ( after forgiveness....or during that terrible process) that you love to give it away.    And you do it in empathy.   THAT's the connection.   You see people.  People see you.  Needs are getting met.  Value is being exchanged.  Love.  A power greater than you.  Connection to that as often as possible.

But it's a fucking mess to get there, because when in the disease of "I" ( it's all just resentment....forgiveness waiting to happen) there's isolation, and no way to know how to do the uncertain road of forgiveness.  You absolutely can't do it alone.   I think that's why we need a community of people who want to do the same thing.   Who realize that they can't do it alone and start to connect and give value ( it's a very big value to say I DON'T KNOW....and to allow help).  

As far as your heart beating like hell for that woman.  I know this one dude.  A lot of men do.   Watch the clip again.   Watch the part about IMPLICIT MEMORY ( it's towards the end) in the Gabor Mate clip.

Most addiction, codependency ( labels) are about that...that memory in a system of people.  A social dynamic is where it happened.  The preverbal stuff.   It's all in your right brain.   It's where all this ego bullshit got it's real base.   The disconnect, the distrust,  trying to GET GET GET because just being the "I" isn't enough.   And you have to SELL to get.   You have to sell hard and look for state above the implicit memory reality.  

Implicit memory.   Check it  between 45-50 minute mark I think ....this is what makes your heart beat like that.  You don't even remember anything about where it's coming from.   It drives your social relationships and dynamics and defences.   And it's very specific.  As specific as your lungs breathing.  I have walked a lot of the path you're talking about.  At one point you're going to reach out and connect....its about that palace of wisdom thing.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpHiFqXCYKc       
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Thanks again mate.

Its funny when you hit these points, despite your brilliance or talents and potential, the world turns away. Its in these dark moments that you see who your true friends are.

I don't even know you truly but, you are one of these people. For all the admiration Russell Brand gets, he has had many manic lows. He is a role model in the sense of pulling randoms and aspiring for something more.

Its a mini crush that I have no become aware of. Its likely ego related and an alternative mindset. I will touch on this more but, some info I don't feel comfortable sharing. I also send you a pm in regards to further guilt.

I relate to Brand for the sole fact that, I've been in that spot, hitting bottom, pull or hook up, and you pull a shadow self in the opposite sex.

Your peripheral vision intakes only what you want to see. In your blind spots, you miss out on the quality and go what only you see.

Then, there are those who pull on that potentiality, creative flow, and universal laws. I've met few of these women in my life. Despite physical attraction, they are that much more stunning, and appealing.

Given, not everyone is "awakened" as Ecky would put it.

JFM are you in addictions counseling or studying for that route? You seem to know quite a bit.

I am purchasing this book ASAP. What do you do to be aware of "the ghost," that "phantom self," "i," and to emanate your true potential?

My sensai keeps banging on about "building self."

What centers you? Mate, what keeps you going? Despite the one fellas respond on the thread, guys like Brand, Sheen, Adam Lyon from the community, and tons of others come across a girl that puts wind in their sails. Shit happens.

Like I've said, I am fucking tourist. If in the next decade, I am banging on about SMOKE SHOWs or bathroom pulling some stunner, I am jumping into a time machine to come back to kick my ass.

Gabor's speel on "implicit memory" is quite intriguing. I look forward to reading more about this stuff on emotional memory. You spoke of forgiveness. I am there now. Feeling a lot better then before. Still, I am conserned about my brother.
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ambiguity wrote:

Aim of focus at the moment is 1) build myself 2) Project myself further into my career - make more money - move up - make my millions 3) spend time with quality women which means HIT ON EVERT GIRL I THINK IS HOT - SCREEN HARD!!!

I am only partaking in quality women from here on. No more random sluts. I will hook up but, I am looking to bring a more genuine approach. Of all the hook ups I have, few are memerable, and worth while.

Interesting the above comment, and I'll tell you in a second what I think about that.

I think it's always good to remember that old saying, "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom".    It's true you know.   I'd say you're on track, you're not a weirdo, you're not "melting down" ( in the sense that you're fucked up beyond repair or some such BS), and life could unfold into some really good opportunity.  You're an excellent guy.  You deserve to win.

Addiction or codependency or whatever LABEL you want to give it boils down to what Gabor Mate is saying.

1. Not getting what you need at the PRIMAL level.
2. Early adversity ( especially the fantasy bond with parents and family that blocks this reality..same as outright abuse)
3. Stuck in some level of a grieving not getting what you need ( denial-anger( rage)-negotiation-sadness-acceptance).

Most people haven't got a clue what forgiveness is.   It's cracking the denial and getting help and being seen and letting go and getting your SELF back.  Doing the grieving and being seen while you do it. 

When you recognize you HAVE that self.....you want to care for it.   That's self esteem.   Look at your above comment.   You are in the disease of "I" for sure.   Nothing in there is about community and giving value and SERVING.  Zero.  You spell out the human condition.  The Hungry Ghost.

Serving isn't "boring responsibility".   Serving is sharing the wealth to have more.   You feel so great ( after forgiveness....or during that terrible process) that you love to give it away.    And you do it in empathy.   THAT's the connection.   You see people.  People see you.  Needs are getting met.  Value is being exchanged.  Love.  A power greater than you.  Connection to that as often as possible.

But it's a fucking mess to get there, because when in the disease of "I" ( it's all just resentment....forgiveness waiting to happen) there's isolation, and no way to know how to do the uncertain road of forgiveness.  You absolutely can't do it alone.   I think that's why we need a community of people who want to do the same thing.   Who realize that they can't do it alone and start to connect and give value ( it's a very big value to say I DON'T KNOW....and to allow help).  

As far as your heart beating like hell for that woman.  I know this one dude.  A lot of men do.   Watch the clip again.   Watch the part about IMPLICIT MEMORY ( it's towards the end) in the Gabor Mate clip.

Most addiction, codependency ( labels) are about that...that memory in a system of people.  A social dynamic is where it happened.  The preverbal stuff.   It's all in your right brain.   It's where all this ego bullshit got it's real base.   The disconnect, the distrust,  trying to GET GET GET because just being the "I" isn't enough.   And you have to SELL to get.   You have to sell hard and look for state above the implicit memory reality.  

Implicit memory.   Check it  between 45-50 minute mark I think ....this is what makes your heart beat like that.  You don't even remember anything about where it's coming from.   It drives your social relationships and dynamics and defences.   And it's very specific.  As specific as your lungs breathing.  I have walked a lot of the path you're talking about.  At one point you're going to reach out and connect....its about that palace of wisdom thing.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpHiFqXCYKc       
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@Ambiguity

Addiction is everywhere. Like Gabor Mate says: it's a continuum.
Almost everyone you know probably has addictions.
I started eating full organic a couple months ago and I noticed I am addicted to glucose-fructose syrup containing foods (which are quite a lot) as well as other blood glucose spiking things that are bad for you. Quiting that shit a bit at a time. Just one of the few things I've been quiting. Identify all forms of mood alteration/soothing type stuff and kick it to the motherfucking curb. Just because society and most people tell something is minor doesn't mean it's good for you. Don't settle for less than the best.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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