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WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU REALIZED YOU WERE OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL?
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ambiguity

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http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-and-naked-in-ny-pl...

http://www.thewrap.com/television/column-post/charlie-sheen-found-naked-...


There is a balance between pulling hotties and rimming fucking randoms be it call girls or guying anything that moves.

At a certain point, there is something so soulless about all this and even pointless.

Charlie Sheen in his 50s is at it with hotties be it SMOKE SHOW randoms or call girls. Nobody parties like this cunt.

My philosophy in life is: I don't chase; I replace.

If not her, there will be others. Its not fucking personal.

I've did it all and some of it, I am ashamed of and not quite proud of it all.

There have been some serious life lessons along the way.

I have been sacked before, written up, made mistakes that have implicated my career, bar fights, woken up in random hotel rooms with women I don't even recall meeting.

Most recently, I had finally hit the point where I am truly out of fucking control.

Reading shit about Russell Brand or Charlie Sheen is fucking a blast and highly entertaining.

Living this way is totally another story.

There is something so sickening and soulless about it.

After all is said and done, I feel a lack of spirituality and realize, the only thing I have gained from it all my antics is guilt.

So what is the answer?


I met a bloke in LAX last week. The fella was in his mid 40s. A complete "Chode" as you fellas on RSD would say. Heart broken over his divorce from his ex wife, out 100,000$ from his wife, lost house, most of possessions, raised kids, and gave up everything. He hadn't been laid in 16yrs. I exchanged stories with him and I could see the excitement and thrill he seeks. I could see him admiring me despite the age difference. He would tell me about chatting up women at work or at a concert. Spent hours there but, not ask for a number or to pick her up. I told him to just take her hand and lead her out of the place and he looked shocked. He marvelled at pics and videos I had on my phone. I tried to give him the best advise I could to help him with women to make something of his life but, then again, who am I do that? It turns out, he spent the past decade obsessing over his friend. When other men come around, he would get pissed, and upset. He would chase more and she would fuck these guys yet, keep him on the side as a crutch when she got played. This angered me. It annoys me how men can be so weak and pathetic.

Living like Charlie Sheen isn't the answer but, nor is living like a loser either. I am not sure what the answer is but, I know for a fact, I am out of fucking control.
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Rick Grimes

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thats why all these celebrity stories end badly,they feel the way your feeling and they go straight to the durgs man.i think russel brand seems to be going the other route looking for control and peace through meditation and holistic stuff like that,but most of the time the past drug addiction wins out and you give in.

its sad is what it is

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WireySpindell

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Thanks for sharing, 10Pin. I had a similar experience as well. I don't know what it is, but when you really start to hit your stride, some people just get sucked in to drugs and other self-destructive habits. I don't know if it's some kind of cognitive dissonance where you don't feel you deserve it, or some kind of success barrier, or just bad genes, or what. But it's something I know I need to look out for and be very honest with myself about.

Being attractive to women is NOT going to bring inner peace. Neither is living a party. It's been said a bunch but I think ppl still need to walk that road and find out for themselves. It's not that these things are bad, but it's like the saying goes, they're mandatory but not sufficient.
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Master Milo

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im not sure its possible to get to the fine balance without first swinging way too far towards the extreems. I understand that being a charlie sheen might be soullesst, but it broadens your perspective on life to have lived through fucked up shit, even if it costs you dearly. For me fullness of life has to preceed balance and self control. Apart from anything else being young is about being full of fire and stupidity.
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Mild Seven

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I'd say you're only out of control if you are living out of alignment with your values and are acting impulsively with no goals in life. There's nothing sickening and soulless about this lifestyle to me, because I live in alignment. At least for the most part.
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ambiguity

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10Pin wrote:

WireySpindell wrote:
Thanks for sharing, 10Pin. I had a similar experience as well. I don't know what it is, but when you really start to hit your stride, some people just get sucked in to drugs and other self-destructive habits. I don't know if it's some kind of cognitive dissonance where you don't feel you deserve it, or some kind of success barrier, or just bad genes, or what. But it's something I know I need to look out for and be very honest with myself about.

Being attractive to women is NOT going to bring inner peace. Neither is living a party. It's been said a bunch but I think ppl still need to walk that road and find out for themselves. It's not that these things are bad, but it's like the saying goes, they're mandatory but not sufficient.

I agree completely mate. I remember feeling extremely guilty about things - and of course, that guilt screws your self-esteem, which makes it harder to consider yourself worthy of dragging out of the mess. I was basically rebelling a lot against what I saw as 'conformist chode' shit - ironically, the very same traits that I'd been raised to value. Which of course, leads to cognitive dissonance... ;/

Of course, its not impossible to be a good person and still have your pick of women. But it took me a long time to realise that. I had to challenge some pretty major presumptions I had been living with.
FUck, I believe in God, spirituality, and a lot of shit that is intangible.

If you are born with good looks, you suffer as the fade through age. If you aren't, you suffer desiring to be that guy.

I was going to delete this shit but, I am glad I didn't. I've been racking my brain for a bit.

If you are on the grind, putting in work nonstop, you will have the highs and the lows. Being sacked, written up, multiple women coming & going, late nights, random flings, std/pregnancy scares, and all for what?

Part of me would like to settle down with a gf but, then again, putting this shit down has its consequences too. I am not sure where the balance is or how to put things into balanced perspective.

I've said on multiple occassions, you can bed a SMOKE SHOW, your ideal drop dead gorgeous girl (WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE HATERS, I DO NO ACKNOWLEDGE) yet, you can still want to reach for the doomsday device right after.

At times, it all seems hollow. The highs are high but, the lows are low. At the current moment, I am working on unconditional self love, building me, and clearly sharing but, I am not sure what the answer is.

I've watched guys with better "game" admire other mates or guys they know. Its a cycle of stupidity really.

Onus is on self. Seeking to bring an adventure is more "DANCING MONKEY" mentality.

Thanks guys for your honest feed back. Trying to make sense of it but, after this past couple of days, I know change is in order. What change? That is something I haven't quite figured out yet.
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#! Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.


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Paris Boum Boum

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Interesting thread. 

But again, if you don't let go, how can you grow ? 

I realized recently that one of the biggest obstacles I had was my social experience as I was 17-22. I was a chode, but a rockstar chode. That meant I couldn't close for shit, but for all the rest I was on top (ie talking to strangers, humor, frame, etc, basically a natural, but who didn't close). I think I couldn't handle the kind of popularity that went with that, and I focused on the bad sides of it. So I lost a good part of my social skills the years after, on purpose. I saw that as pointless, leading nowhere. I ditched dozens of people, and isolated myself.

After discovering the "game" and TD, I realized that I could do the same awesome stuff, as I was already doing it before. But now it's as though my subconscious was preventing me to be like "before", because I dwelt so long on the negative aspects of it. My brain doesn't want to let go once and for all.

I became aware that most of the issues I had in my development were rooted in me, during my second 30 day challenge. Especially that night were I spent a few hours with people I cold approached a few months before, and whose social life revolved around me, then pulled a very hot girl from a bar, almost fell in love with her, failed to bring her home at the last moment because of her friend, and when they left another cute girl comes by and I have the opportunity to take her home maybe. It seems like nothing, but my brain fried, realizing how cold approach can transform your life as well as the life of the people you meet so quickly and deeply. Success barriers at their finest.
For some people it's not a big deal. 
For me this is what I tried to escape by becoming less social.
Because there is that risk of losing yourself in others. (For those interested, check the 17th century french moralists)

I wish I could let go, totally, for a little period of time.
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ambiguity... just gotta say i love ya fuckin posts bro. full of value and no BS.

keep us updated with whats going thru ya head with this shit!!! 
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Paris Boum Boum

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@ambiguity:
What grounds you now ? What used to ground you ? Why isn't it working anymore ? 
Good advice from a friend a while ago ; go back to the things you used to enjoyed, to what made you feel you were yourself, to what used to make your identity.
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UtopiaFive

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I WOULD READ SOME TOLLE BRO
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