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December 10th, 2016
Alumini assisting Alexander ~ bootcamp. AUCKLAND, NZ. Jan 21-23
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Martin Crowe

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 The last time I'd seen Alex was at my BC in Sydney from November, 2008. As it is for every student, I was initially mind-fucked but with a bit of disciple I was soon reaping the benefits. The chicks got way hotter and the lay count started to spiral up. On top of this, I spent 2009 and 2010 living in Italy - which really took me out of my comfort zone and challenged me constantly. So yes, I did improve a lot from BC, but  2 years on felt as if I was stagnating a bit - I needed a new drive. My 'wings' in Italy were lacklustre to say the least and other than times when I was traveling, I wasn't going out much. Fortunately opportunity came knocking.  No sooner had I arrived back in my home city of Auckland when I casually observed that there was a RSD free tour in Auckland that very weekend - as well as a BC. I let Alex knew that I was back in town and with the help of my wing - lethyr -  were given BC assistancy offers in exchange for a few transportation and accommodation favors. Fine by me. I don't plan to write an indepth field report here - rather just an outline of the evenings proceedings, and the learning curves/mind fucks that I experienced (these were all on the 2nd day). But let's start with Friday for now. 

Friday Night 

We meet up in the cafe which would become homebase for the weekend. There's only one student (who i shall refer to as C) but there are 3 assistants. Myself: Alex BC alumini and euro zealot. Blackandblue: Nathan BC alumini and resident rockstar toughguy. And Lethyr: My wing, former-MM-no-turning-back convert and solid player. And of course: Alexander. Alex goes through the usual BC motions, setting out the guidelines, establishing the students goals and laying out the crux of the most fundamental principles (they've been condensed and improved since my BC). There isn't a lot of theory - just as there never is on the first night. This is observation times. For both the student to observe Alex and Alex to observe the student. And of course - as assistants - for us simply to observe everything and/or do whatever we like.

Sales street - arguably Auckland's biggest club - will be our base for tonight and tomorrow. It's huge and has a great variety of environments i.e. Dance floor, bar, chill area, outside area etc. However, as it is the same day as Auckland's biggest music festival - it's rather quiet. The assumption is that after midnight things should pick up as it finishes. It's 10:45. Alex and C have a prep talk while the rest of us just grab drinks and chode around temporarily before Lethyr storms off to start opening. B&B is soon doing the same - and soon I follow suit. I wing the guys on a few sets with tepid results at best. My first good one for the night is with 2 persian girls. Things start to improve from this point. As we are in the same venue all night I can afford to take my time, the first two hours I'm basically building rapport and general attraction between girls in a few different sets - periodically watching over at Alex to see him making out with an Indian girl, in pep talks with C, and later on - in deep romance times with a cute blonde Italian.

Around 1:30am the place is almost completely empty - it turns out no one was going out after the music festival. I'm sitting on a couch with a little Hungarian girl that I'd been pushing and pulling all night, who after grilling me that I'm to young for her (I'm 25 - shes 27) proceeds to let go of all inhibitions and take a series of graphic photos of us making out - she's  going to Sydney in the morning but lets me know where she's heading to in town now for us to meet up later. Dead fucking keen. Not many people left in the bar now. Lethyr has been running the game on a two set of cute Chinese girls and when I jump over to wing him it seems as though one of the girls is very interested in both of us. 3way buddy? :p We grab their numbers for the time being. With Sales street clearing out, Alex starts looking at logistics to try and pull his girl so me and L offer to take C down to the Viaduct to run a few more sets there under our own observation.

Town - like Sales street is rather dead so we don't stay extremely long: we hop a few bars, do a few sets, I almost instapull 2 girls but their sober friends whisk them away from in front of me. Finally we go to our last club and meet up with the Chinese girls. As chance would have it - L is walking in front of me in the club and while HBchina likes both of us - as L is there first he grabs on to her and basically doesn't let go for 30 minutes. I tell C to open a few tough mixed sets. He seems to open well but I can tell he's not pushing them and fails to make any moves to determine if the girls are with the guys or not. Bored, I storm in and quickly/uncomfortably establish that they are :P. C decides to  go home for now. I head back to see how L is going. He's bailed to off with his Fbuddy since china was giving him to much resistence for the makeout. She gives me less the second that I isolate her. I get us shots and we engage in pretty serious molestation in the corner of the club. She's horny as hell but her friends come by and establish that she's going home with them - and I'm not. It's ok, we'll meet up again. I call it a night.

*Follow ups from Friday: Hungarian chick texts me at 5am around the time I've just gotten home - I totally forgot about her. She's in Australia by later that morning so I have a fucking solid day 2 for when I'm in Sydney in one weeks time. HBchina: met up with her on tuesday and banged her brains out at her place. 


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Martin Crowe

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 the hazards of having tight fuckin' game ^^
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 I am a slack when it comes to writing this stuff - hence why I don't keep a FR journal. Anyways here's saturday:

Saturday Day: Mindfucks revisted

Infield footage time + instructor commentary. This is probably the best learning tool you can possibly ask for as attested by just about every other BC and hotseat write-up here. It didn't exist when I did my original BC back in 08' so I was immensely grateful to finally see it now. Alex showed us 3 videos - all of which have been discussed on here before so I'll try and get to the crux of the point in each of them:

Gotenburg: Alex vs Anna
Synopsis:  Alex spends 20 minutes talking shit to an icy Swedish girl who gives him slightly less feedback than a brick wall. She finally cracks and he takes her home. 
Main learning points: So many guys would have bowed out within 2 minutes of talking to a girl like this. She gave him nothing, was frequently rude and on at least one occasion he had to stop her and her friend from walking away. The point is that he remained completely unreactive, made his own fun of the situation and never let her initially bad vibe throw him off. Massive demonstrations of I don't give a fuck and I am enough. In the end end the girl can't help but be pulled into the stronger reality. The other key thing I got out of this was the fact that Alex's verbal game isn't anything special - it's simply a difference of where it's coming from. I think me and Lethyr got more out of this than the student. 

Gotenburg: Alex vs Malin
Synopsis: Similar theme to the Anna set except instead of giving him nothing, this girl was throwing alot of shit. She was sneering, insolate and outright rude but once again Alex got her - this time on a day 2.
Learning points: The more brutal tests you can handle, the greater the reward. I have a hard time imagining 99.9% of guys not letting this kind of insolence affect them in some way - whether it be by bailing out of the set or what my brother - a natural - would have done (and has): which is tell her loudly to go fuck herself and throw his drink on her. Massive ephiphanies.

Sydney: Alex vs Ozzy dancer girl
Synopsis: 10 minute bathroom pull 
Learning points: This video demonstrated rapid logistics screening when it becomes obvious that the shit is fucking ON from the start. Alex asks questions the girl about whether she is adventurous and spontaneous and also demonstrates rapid esculation and isolation. I have done a bathroom pull before but this video shows how its doen in a clinical manner. 

Also!

Chodes night out I
Synopsis/Learning points: Alex dresses up like a douche, gets inside his head and does a series of embarissingly bad approaches on bemused/digusted/pissed off girls for the purposes of showing that worst case scenarios aren't actually that bad.

Chodes night out II
Synopsis/learning points: One of Alex's swedish students dresses up like a freak, badly impersonates a New Zealander, monologues to himself in retarded english and approaches girls with such winners as can I shit on your face and I fucked your grandmother. Fails spectacularly but nothing bad happens to him. Also FUCKING HILARIOUS. I haven't laughed this hard since the first 20 minutes of Borat. 


Saturday night: 

10:45pm. The 5 of us head out once again to Sales street. I'm all fucked up in my head - still - from the infield footage epiphanies. C immediatly starts getting forced into tough sets while Alex observes closely and gives him advice/feedback inbetween. Meanwhile Lethyr goes into rampage approach mode while B&B and me catch up with each other/chode about. I see Lethyr making some cool shit happen and finally I rage myself into a set. Tonight the girls are much hotter than last night - you couldn't actually ask for much better. My goal is to deploy as much unreactivity and shit talk as possible.

First girl is a very tall pure 10 on high heels. She reacts to me as if I am a puppy dog - telling me how cute I am -  very strange. Her bf is nearby. Bah. Next girl: Also super hottie - can't remember my opener but she rubbishes it and asks me if that's the best I've got. I tell her it pretty much is in about as superchilled way as possible. Girl opens up hard now. Immediatley gives me props for approaching her but says she can't do anything on account of her bf. Her group is about to leave but she tells me which bar they're going too and that I should come. I tell her I can't. Make-out from nowhere. She leaves. Feel out of my head now.

Next set: Hottie and some older girl who I suspect might be an older relative. Open with someone slightly less retarded from CNO II. Something about the magic ambinence in the air and the feelings or something - paticularly retarded for someone of my sentinence. Set opens and I establish that they are co-workers and the older one is here with husband. My target is here with no-one. Good. What follows is the standard move around, physical escualtion and direct appplication of shit talk and chill vibes. Slow build-up to extreme make-out. But I miss the window to pull the girl and proceed to kick myself afterwards. Realised what I did wrong: dragging it out rather than simply going for it right on the mark. Should be a solid day 2 though. Lesson learned. Night seems to be coming to a close. I'm sober driver so I drop Lethyr home after Alex and the student. 

* Follow up from saturday: Close my failed pull on a day 3 (it's not economical to miss a pull opportunity :p) HBchina is happy to desigate relationship to FB level. Currently in Sydney for job interviews. Should see Hungarian girl when she gets back from Perth later next week. 

 
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inspiring stuff mate
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My Hot Seat review (2010): http://www.rsdnation.com/node/167964
Review of my bootcamp with Alex (2011): http://www.rsdnation.com/node/195363
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Hey Guys, I've just posted a review of the bootcamp, It's a bit late but I got it done !

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