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You can open well and have a good vibe and energy, but your coversations can be a bit boring with you just asking girls questions, so i don't think the girls get any impression of who you are, then you abruptly ask for the number/day 2. maybe try 'expressing' more talk about yourself what you're into try to find a genuine connection and a more legitimate reason for the number/day2.
basically i think you want it too badly and girls sense it. try and see what your doing from from the girls pov and the fact they want connection, comfort and to feel special.
basically i think you want it too badly and girls sense it. try and see what your doing from from the girls pov and the fact they want connection, comfort and to feel special.
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i was hanging out with a wing of mine. we were just chilling basically. we got some five guys and were walking to the beach. i haven't done a day game approach in like a month. but i saw this like 5'0 girl with a big ass walking across the street. so i ran across and got her number in about a minute because she had to get back to work.
texted her and hung out with her around 8 (she said she had to leave at 9 because she has to wake up at 4am, this is perfect because i have a date at ten!). she works near a bar so she got off work and went there and i met her there. she knew like every one in the fucking bar kind of annoying. we started off at the bar but she kept talking to the bartender. so i said lets relocate so we can people watch more. picked a nice isolated place in the corner. we just asked each other questions back and forth. i pulled our stools close to each other. our legs were touching for a lot of the conversation.
she was pretty boring. i was just waiting for us to leave the bar so i could walk her home and the fun can begin. during the convo i ask how many people she's been with. immediately she says 33. girls never fucking straight out answer that question and never tell the truth so i thought it would be pretty easy. lots of boring convo in the bar. we didn't really learn much about each other. i guess there wasn't much of a vibe between us. so we finished our 2nd beer and took off around 910.
i took her hand as soon as we left the bar. she thought it was a little weird. whatever. i asked so do you know why i came over to talk to you? she's like no, why? i said because of your ass and i grabbed it and she just took it in stride. so i thought we were on a good path.
my place is along the way to her place so we walked by it. i said i was going to grab a sweater because its getting cold hoping she wanted to come in. shes like ok ill wait outside and smoke a cig (she was kind of a addicted). so ok whatever she isnt coming in. so before i leave to go in i'm like well before you smoke your cig as i pull her in for a kiss and she is instantly like "i'm not kissing you" and breaks our hand hold and walks the other way. damn
get my sweater. come back hold hands to her house. i put my arm around her and put her arm around me but she keeps taking it off so i keep putting it back on. she wasnt into it at all. joked around tried to make out with her prob 5 or 6 more times along the walk home. i was never really even close, but i kept it pretty light and we were at least laughing about it. at the end though i think i was definitely in the chasing frame.
whatever. we didnt vibe. there wasn't too much time. i don't know. i'm happy that i was pretty agro. i probably won't see her again
texted her and hung out with her around 8 (she said she had to leave at 9 because she has to wake up at 4am, this is perfect because i have a date at ten!). she works near a bar so she got off work and went there and i met her there. she knew like every one in the fucking bar kind of annoying. we started off at the bar but she kept talking to the bartender. so i said lets relocate so we can people watch more. picked a nice isolated place in the corner. we just asked each other questions back and forth. i pulled our stools close to each other. our legs were touching for a lot of the conversation.
she was pretty boring. i was just waiting for us to leave the bar so i could walk her home and the fun can begin. during the convo i ask how many people she's been with. immediately she says 33. girls never fucking straight out answer that question and never tell the truth so i thought it would be pretty easy. lots of boring convo in the bar. we didn't really learn much about each other. i guess there wasn't much of a vibe between us. so we finished our 2nd beer and took off around 910.
i took her hand as soon as we left the bar. she thought it was a little weird. whatever. i asked so do you know why i came over to talk to you? she's like no, why? i said because of your ass and i grabbed it and she just took it in stride. so i thought we were on a good path.
my place is along the way to her place so we walked by it. i said i was going to grab a sweater because its getting cold hoping she wanted to come in. shes like ok ill wait outside and smoke a cig (she was kind of a addicted). so ok whatever she isnt coming in. so before i leave to go in i'm like well before you smoke your cig as i pull her in for a kiss and she is instantly like "i'm not kissing you" and breaks our hand hold and walks the other way. damn
get my sweater. come back hold hands to her house. i put my arm around her and put her arm around me but she keeps taking it off so i keep putting it back on. she wasnt into it at all. joked around tried to make out with her prob 5 or 6 more times along the walk home. i was never really even close, but i kept it pretty light and we were at least laughing about it. at the end though i think i was definitely in the chasing frame.
whatever. we didnt vibe. there wasn't too much time. i don't know. i'm happy that i was pretty agro. i probably won't see her again
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i had one very good approach. i was getting some food at the supermarket. i said hello to this girl when i first walked in and she said hello back. i saw her again at the cashier. then i saw her one more time walking in front of me and
me: you keep looking at me
her: you keep looking at me
me: you are very nice to look at
her: *smiles*
we chatted for a bit. i was VERY relaxed. all i could think about was fucking her and felt my penis tingling. i wanted to kiss her, but we were in vons. (next time i should just go for it) our eye contact was strong. we both had nothing to do, but we both don't have an apartment right now. she's 32 and from columbia. she just got back to sd is in the process of getting a place. she lives on a boat because she is in the coast guard. if i had a place, we probably would have had sex. so i just took her number and told her we should hang out sometime when we both have a place.
i called this girl back like 3 weeks ago. we chatted for a bit on the phone, but she was busy. then forgot about her. she texted me asking whats up. i told her i'd been busy and we should hang out during the week. she agreed. i texted her like 10 days later (today). i texted her asking what shes up to. she responds in like a minute. me: you keep looking at me
her: you keep looking at me
me: you are very nice to look at
her: *smiles*
we chatted for a bit. i was VERY relaxed. all i could think about was fucking her and felt my penis tingling. i wanted to kiss her, but we were in vons. (next time i should just go for it) our eye contact was strong. we both had nothing to do, but we both don't have an apartment right now. she's 32 and from columbia. she just got back to sd is in the process of getting a place. she lives on a boat because she is in the coast guard. if i had a place, we probably would have had sex. so i just took her number and told her we should hang out sometime when we both have a place.
her: hi nothing, you?
me: hanging out with you duh. hows your new place?
her: it is really nice :)
me: awesome. you should show it to me
her: sometime
me: i'm off today. if i brought over a bottle of wine would you drink it with me?
her: sounds good.
(finalize logistics) - cool shits on.
i BIKE over to HER place (not used to going to enemy territory!). i give her a hug at the door. she has big boobies, a nice spanish ass, a bright yellow striped tank top which makes her tan look very sexy. she gives me a kiss on the cheek (good shit!). i put the wine down. its a little awkward at first. she lives in a studio, so all she has is a bed and some chairs. i check out her balcony. she doesn't want to come out with me because she is wearing socks and it has been raining.
all she has is a bed and i lifted heavy things yesterday with my back at the gym yesterday. so it hurts sitting up right with no back support on her bed. i ask if we can sit somewhere else (thinking the floor with our backs to the bed). she's like you can sit on the chair! ugh thats like 6 feet of separation! so i go sit over there.
we drink wine. we talk about how we both got to sd (they are long stories). we bs. i get bored after an hour or so and then start pointing out random shit in her place. we look at some book. then i sit on the bed with her. our legs are touching. our arms/hands hit each other. we stand up and look at a diary type thing from 2004 which she has her past bfs. she touches my hands. we are standing facing each other. she shows me her tattoo on her shoulder. cool. she shows me her picture album from when she is a kid. we are sitting on her bed and our legs are against each other and she is putting her hands on the book and shit. i get more wine.
we sit back on the bed. very close to each other. we talk more. she shows me she has a tongue ring (i didn't notice it). i tell her i don't think i've kissed anyone with a tongue piercing. she's like you don't think? i'm like yea well you know you get drunk and stuff, we laugh. i ask if she has ever kissed anyone with a labret piercing. she says no. (we both have wine glasses in our hands and are sitting about 6-12 inches away on the bed and she has a very thick carpet. so i couldn't just go for the kiss with her glass in her hand) she shows me her tramp stamp. she shows me her belly piercing. i'm thinking all of these are good signs. she casually touches me during convo. we talk about her pants and how i think they are spanish pants. she stands up to show me that actually they are pregnancy pants and how stretchy they are. i put my hands on the inside of her pants and stretch them out.
we talk some more. i'm waiting for her wine glass to be empty. she finishes it. i take it and bring it to the sink. (expecting to come back and sit really close to her with no wine glasses in our way). she asks if i want another bottle. sighhhhhhhhh. whatever i figure this is a good thing. so whatever we crack open another bottle, but now there is this wine glass in the way. we talk some more. eventually i take her wine glass and set it on the floor then try to put my arm around her and she moves away. i stare at her face and she stares back so i take my hand and move it to her face and she is like donotwant.jpg and moves away before i really get close. then i sit in the awesome awkward moment of sitting on her bed and getting rejected. i give her her wine glass back lol.
we chat some more. i start to loosen up a bit. all night i've been surprised at how many of my jokes she is getting even with the language barrier. so i start talking out loud about how she is pretty smart to be getting my jokes that i don't expect her to get. then we start to connect more and i'm being more genuine and we are both laughing a lot more. i'm laying on her bed as she is sitting facing me and talking. i ask if she gives massages. she's like blahhhhh professional ones are better. wasn't really down for that either. (she has to get up at 530am) so it's like 11pm and she starts yawning. i ask if it's time for me to go. she says yea.
i get my shoes on and we chat a bit at the door. i'm like so next time you will make me some awesome columbian food? she's like well you can make it with me, i don't want to make it for you. whatever. i give her a hug and i leave.
my first time biking intoxicated and i made it home ok!
longest FR about not even kissing a girl ever. oh wellz. i'm glad i went. expanding my comfort zone. i've never been to a girls place on a day 2. i suppose i could have been a little more physical earlier, but there really wasn't much to do at her place or places to move around/get physical.
maybe i'll see her again
edit: hmmmmmmm i didn't really ask her about any sexual questions like i usually do.
so i call up columbian girl. she is still putting on her make up. i walk over to her apt complex. she lives at 306 i knock on 308 and hear some old grumpy dudes voice so i quickly run and go to her door and get inside haha.
she is looking sexy! dressed in a bright red shirt with one sleeve cut off showing her tattoo. nice tight jeans with a red belt showing off her ass. some boots with red on the inside. isnt red the color of love!? i comment on her sexyness. she asks if its going to be cold i tell her that i can warm her up if she gets cold. shes like awwww. she complains about something she is wearing and i say well you can just take it off if you want. she kinda laughs.
we leave her place. i grab her hand for the walk and no dice. she's like blah blah i havent held hands in a while. we did it for a bit, but she wasn't down either. she asked me when was the last time i held hands haha. i avoided the question. we got to the bay and it was a bit cold. she commented on it so i put my arm around her and she kind of snuggled in for a sec. i put her arm around me, but she wasnt down and pulled it back. we walked a bit and were talking about her tongue ring being out. i said aww i wanted to kiss you with it in. she's like you are going to kiss me. i try and kiss her and she pulls away, but not too bad.
i asked if she wanted to just chill at the bay for a bit so i can molest her, but she said it was cold. so we headed towards the bars. stopped by my place and i showed it to her then we took off to the bars. went to a dive bar with cheap pitchers. i wasn't sure if she was going to like it. she actually liked it a lot. because it isn't wear the tourists go lol. i guess i should practice hyping up places anyway instead of just saying its a dive bar with cheap pitchers.
she led the way to the seat and we were in the corner so i was like facing the wall and she got to look at the rest of the bar. i tried to sit next to her but she thought it was strange so i had to like look at the wall the entire time lol. and these 2 lesbians on a date i think. one of them was really sexy. she was pretty skinny with HUGE boobs and a shirt showing them off. she had a tramp stamp trailing down to under her pants and was sitting forward showing off her panties.
we played murder, marry, shag. she enjoyed it. then i felt like it was getting stale so i just asked questions i was curious about. she's 32 and was married for 7 years. apparently before she was married to her ex, she was dancing in her living room with a long time friend of hers and they just started kissing. after they kissed for a bit they both went over to her ex and brought him into it and just ended up having a random one time FFM threesome. she went down on the girl. i asked her how it tasted she's like you would know better than me haha. the girl went down on her. sounds like fun. i thought that was pretty cool.
she likes getting oral. she really likes it. who doesn't? she said. well some girls are insecure/not that sensitive. she gets turned on sucking cock. her favorite position? all of them. she masturbates with a small vibrator. she wouldn't tell me the last time she jilled off. she hasn't had sex since december. she's been with 15 dudes. she doesn't like girls but sounds like she is down for shit in the moment if it feels right. she will only let someone special put a dick in her ass. i made fun of her for that obviously. if it feels good it feels good so who cares. she asked me something and i'm like no, no i've never had a dick in my ass i wouldnt know. she cracked up pretty hard. after this convo she asked me what i was thinking. (what was i thinking? i was thinking about what she looks like naked, what she tastes like, what it is going to feel like pounding her sexy ass from behind.) what did i answer? lots of things. few mins later she asked me again what i was thinking. i pussied out again. i wonder what affect that had on things?
after this she asked me how many gfs ive had. i said just 1. and she asked why. i told her i dont like the exclusive thing. shes like oh blah blah i'm from columbia i'm not used to that. i can't do that. i get attached. i can't just have sex and then get a call from the guy 3 weeks later to do it again. i kind of fumbled at first dealing with this. then i made some strong points about people not being honest/cheating in relationships and she kind of sided with me a bit.
we finished the pitcher. left the bar. i put my arm around her. we walked a few blocks. got to a red light. i say you know what happens at red lights? go for kiss and was not even closeeeeeee. on the way home i asked her why she doesn't want to kiss me. because if she kisses she gets attached and we want different things and at this point in her life she is looking for something more serious. penis penis blah blah.
she came over for a bit so i could sober up a tad before i drive her home. didnt feel like walking another 2 miles. my roomy was home and drunk so we goofed around a bit with him. i made tons of sexual jokes/innuendos to her with him in the convo. she was laughing, but she thinks im silly. she wants to be friends because she likes hanging out with me because i'm cool. whatever
i drove her hand. put her hand on the shift because sh doesnt know how. i told her she can call me at 2am if shes bored. shes like thats it? i said no you can call me at 1am too if you want. i got a kiss on the cheek on the way out. VICTORY!!!
she's cool. she's sexy. she has a good personality and is actually fun to hang out with. i had fun. too bad we didn't do more physical shit. i probably won't see her again
moar wall of text without me making out with girls weeeeeee
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On my first bootcamp years ago, I was instructed to hook the girl than tell her to close her eyes and give her a small peck. With a girl like the Colombian it might work very well because in her mind you've already kissed her so she can escalate easily with you because that threshold has already been crossed. It also might not work at all or totally backfire and get her super pissed off and maybe even slap you. But hey, I just wanted to make the suggestion.
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One thing I noticed between your old DG approaches and your new ones is the pause after saying excuse me. I haven't done nearly enough daygame approaches but I've noticed the difference in mine when I pause after saying excuse me. Just having a smile or smirk on your face and holding eye contact while checking them out is the best. It's super playful and forces you to slow down and to smile both of which keep you from being nervous or appearing nervous.
Keep killing it. I somehow stumbled on your journal and that's how I got introduced to the forums here. Your fearlessness is an inspiration.
Keep killing it. I somehow stumbled on your journal and that's how I got introduced to the forums here. Your fearlessness is an inspiration.
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i went on a date with a fat girl from okc tonight. barely any messaging. she refused to meet at my place, so we met a block away. the first thing i did when i saw her, i grabbed her faced and kissed her on the lips. then we kissed again. like 5 secs went by and i was kind of shocked she even kissed and was like that was fun and pulled her in and went for more and we made out haha.
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Randomly found this in my itunes today, pretty awesome. I've never been this direct in daygame before. What happened with this girl?
nothing. she was boring went down to the beach. the first 20 mins of this set i had it on my shorts. so it started to get interesting and i put the recorder in my shoe between us and now you can hear it lol
Free MP3 download: nicole sex talk.mp3
Free MP3 download: nicole sex talk.mp3
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I thought your text game was tight. It was quick and to the point. She didn't seem like she was really down to be honest. It sounds to me like you got physical too late. It could have surprised her.