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June 19th, 2013
The thing about indifference
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nebuR

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So In BP tyler talks about the indifference thresehold, that when u're indifferent, the girls usually respond well, Ive noticed this myself in field actually, when Im focused on my OWN fun and just being silly, the majority of girls open up very good, and its on nights like these I usually get lots of makeouts and eye-contact, not pulling yet but that has mostly been cuz Im not that good handling logistics and cock-blocks yet.

However, what is the mechanisms going on here? Why do u get better "results" when u are indifferent and none-outcome dependant?
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 When you are indifferent it implies a lot of things, all of them attractive to women.  Mostly it shows that you have what tyler would call "core value." You're not trying to impress her or take anything from her, you are fulfilled in life, you can have tons of girls. For evolutionary reasons the only guys that actually feel indifferent to intense situations are the alpha males. This is the primary mechanism for attraction. This indifference (or irreverence) can not be faked, it must be learned through experience. 
Sounds like you're on the path to glory. keep it up
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nebuR

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Metta wrote:
 When you are indifferent it implies a lot of things, all of them attractive to women.  Mostly it shows that you have what tyler would call "core value." You're not trying to impress her or take anything from her, you are fulfilled in life, you can have tons of girls. For evolutionary reasons the only guys that actually feel indifferent to intense situations are the alpha males. This is the primary mechanism for attraction. This indifference (or irreverence) can not be faked, it must be learned through experience. 
Sounds like you're on the path to glory. keep it up

Yeah man thanks, Ive noticed that getting an explanation for things help me to "click it" into my reality, as Tyler talks about in the blueprint.

The feeling cant really be faked thats true, but you dont have to have some kind of harem to pull it off, its mostly about being outside your head and building momentom from what Ive experienced, so u actually dont have to have the big harem or being supremely successful for achieving this kind of state, atleast not for just a night out.
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nebuR wrote:

Yeah man thanks, Ive noticed that getting an explanation for things help me to "click it" into my reality, as Tyler talks about in the blueprint.

The feeling cant really be faked thats true, but you dont have to have some kind of harem to pull it off, its mostly about being outside your head and building momentom from what Ive experienced, so u actually dont have to have the big harem or being supremely successful for achieving this kind of state, atleast not for just a night out.
For me I don't need a harem to get into this kind of state either and this kind of state can be insanely powerful at attracting girls.

David D says create a life thats so damn good you almost don't have time to hangout with women and have trouble working them into your schedual, I think this is a very good way to create this state.

I think the most attractive part about being in this state is that you don't give away your power, because how could you your indifferent to the situation.  Also you attach less meaning to the situation so your less reactive, because if you attach tons of meaning to the situation then your going to be extreamly reactive.  And when your indifferent to them you just treat them like their your friends, which means you treat them like they have equal or lesser value then you, so you always have just as much if not more value then them.
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Basically, when you have fun, you're GIVING value (your fun to other people).

When you're not, you're trying to TAKE value (fun, good feelings) from others.

The first is attractive, the second is repellant.
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FMRocha

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For example, the fact that you couldn't wait more than 1 hour to get a response from the community by doing a double post to bump the topic, shows you cared about our response, that you needed it in order to find some enlightment about what was troubling you, therefore you were requesting our value to achieve a higher path for yourself.

SO basicly, you answered your own question with your actions.

Also, you just asked the community how are we suppose to have fun...By having fun, period.
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 It's a paradox that the less you care about something, the easier it sometimes is. Indifference doesn't mean that you go out and you're so indifferent that you just sit down on a bar stool not to talk to anyone for the rest of the night. You have to have an orientation towards your goal. Outcome orientation vs emotional attachment to the outcome. The reason that it's so effective in social situations is that it communicates that you are so cool and independent that you don't need anything from anyone. You're just going with your own flow, like you always do. It means on a subconcious level you're communicating that people love you and want to be with you. Communicating that is of HUGE importance for this game.
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nebuR

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FMRocha wrote:
For example, the fact that you couldn't wait more than 1 hour to get a response from the community by doing a double post to bump the topic, shows you cared about our response, that you needed it in order to find some enlightment about what was troubling you, therefore you were requesting our value to achieve a higher path for yourself.

SO basicly, you answered your own question with your actions.

Also, you just asked the community how are we suppose to have fun...By having fun, period.


OFCOURSE I CARE ABOUT THE RESPONSE THATS WHY IM ASKING THIS ON A FORUM DUDE
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BloodmoneySWE

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"However, what is the mechanisms going on here? Why do u get better "results" when u are indifferent and none-outcome dependant? "

Non-neediness & giving value, in your own reality & masculine polarity, communicates abundance instead of scarcity (therefor status), feeling good (-higher serotonin-levels= Alpha. Having your own fun is good. There have been scientific studies both on monkeys and people on the subject of social status and serotonin if you are interested. There have been studies showing that women find male faces with higher serotonin-levels more attractive. You can also but studies on mirror-neurons in the pot.).

Basically, it indicates you are fulfilled and live a life of abundance and dont even NEED anymore.

Would Brad Pitt be outcome dependent with some chick? No. Why wouldnt he? Because he has so much choice its stupid... he is probably screening her instead. He can have fun with no worry.
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