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May 22nd, 2013
Wtf is wrong with me?
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nebuR

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Join Date: 10/07/2010 | Posts: 266

Seriously guys, I dont know what is wrong here, sometimes Im just so outgoing, funny, confident, get everyone laughing and enjoying my company, girls attracted. Other times, like tonight, when at a buddys party, Im just stiff, Im boring as FUCK and I just sit there, cant come up with one god damn sentence, just go with the flow and listen when the other speak and make some comment and thats about it. I feel people dont wanna socialise with me and they rather look at the other dudes when talking, Im not even near to be the anchor of the conversation. At the same time 2 girls who I go in the same class as say "So nebur, u fuck a new girl every weekend or how is it ? ;)" they look at me like some kind of super player despite im NOT, im not even NEAR being good with girls but they ask me anyway, they really BELIVE I am lol!

But I feel so fucking boring, and I think "god damnit, wtf are you doing? u can be this confident funny guy with all the attention some times, and now ure just a fucking chody with a REALLY boring personality sitting here+? wtf dude wake up!" and stuff.


Anyone experienced this? Wtf is wrong? I feel a MASSIVE identity crisis, I have NO IDEA of who I am
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Drama

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I went through that more frequently a year ago, but I'll have those OFF nights when I go out. I started to notice a trend -- I'd usually have shit nights when I would kick ass for 3 days in a row. I had a fear of not owning it like I did the previous night and got inside my head. I was SEEKING reactions from girls just to validate my night so I could come post on the forum that I had a kickass night. Pretty fucking retarded, but once I figured out the pattern, I stopped pulling that shit.
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BloodmoneySWE

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Join Date: 06/07/2009 | Posts: 748

Hmmm..... Different imprints in different situations.

Sounds like you have fucking weak identity and need more life experience to get rooted in a stronger reality. You almost answered your own question in the last sentence :D.
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flux

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Join Date: 11/24/2009 | Posts: 556

Here's some stuff you can apply until you start doing it out of habit and are no longer state dependent....

1. Make a conscious decision and effort to contribute heavily to the conversation, leading, changing the subject, telling your own stories and replying to what others say.
2. Accept that at the start of the interaction you may feel out of state and uncomfortable - this is okay.
3. Accept that you may not vibe well, maybe even badly until you get into the flow - this is okay too.
4. Start very chill and low energy and build it up in the moment.
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 You have too much downtime.  If you got the time to think, you got the time to say "hi" and blab instead.

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nebuR

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flux wrote:
Here's some stuff you can apply until you start doing it out of habit and are no longer state dependent....

1. Make a conscious decision and effort to contribute heavily to the conversation, leading, changing the subject, telling your own stories and replying to what others say.
2. Accept that at the start of the interaction you may feel out of state and uncomfortable - this is okay.
3. Accept that you may not vibe well, maybe even badly until you get into the flow - this is okay too.
4. Start very chill and low energy and build it up in the moment.

Thankyou. Somehow I feel that since watching blueprint, something has seriously messed me up BADLY. Before I had like average social skills and just felt "normal", not good with girls or anything, but atleast I could chat with people and buddies without micromanaging the shit out of interactions.

Nowmore Im HUGELY consious of every little thing that happends, and especially this stuff about STATE, damn, that has really MESSED ME UP BADLY, its like my mind is in some kind of weird loop where it goes "yeah dont care about it.." but when you're in social interaction, the unconsious mind goes like "who is more reactive, who has better state, am I in state? looks dont matter, but they do, but dont care, lead, but dont be outcome dependant, dont care, but get the girl, but dont care anyway, respond to the girl but dont be reactive, act thru your own intentions but dont be needy, feel sexual but dont be needy, dont label anything, dont judge, be in the moment, be yourself, be alpha, have fun but dont care" etc etc etc its completely NUTS.


Thinking of just deleting all fucking seduction material I have, especially blueprint, just throw the discs away or something because it has really messed me up badly, dont know why, I guess its my own responsibility but damn, that thing really got into my unconsious, I just feel depressed now, cant enjoy anything.
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flux

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Thinking and working things out for yourself is 10000x more powerful than following what someone else says, you just use the Blueprint etc to get ideas which you then consider, adapt, make your own or ditch. Its not about following Tylers advice, it's about Tyler giving pointers to help you work these things out for yourself. 

Really, all your trying to do is have more fun, joining in just makes it more fun because it feels shit when you just sit there saying nothing when you actually want to get involved. Thats the real reason to do any of this. 

There's great stuff in the BP, but thats homework stuff, when your talking to people forget all that and just have fun, then all the BP stuff comes out naturally anyway. 

The other problem with advice is people will interpret things in different ways, so it's easy to misunderstand or misuse the advice anyway, so it best to just work it out for yourself using the advice as very rough pointers.

Also, don't stress if you just don't feel like joining in, it's okay to just chill and listen to other people chat for a bit. If you keep chill and dont catastrophize then you may start feeling like joining in again, be cool about it, dont give yourself unrealistic expectations to be leading convos 24/7, but if you wana join in then go for it.
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zackwinterburn

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Join Date: 12/18/2010 | Posts: 67

 way too analytical well good sir, and i'm way new to alot of this shit but hell sometimes you need some madness thrown in to the melting pot. so below is a video of nicholas cage punching a woman in a bear costume.

*yes this is a real video*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo. 
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These thoughts go through everyone in the community. Specially at the earlier levels. (Once you reach level 75 your golden though). Your consistency improves over time, and you can do all kinds of things to speeden it, like echart tolle n shit. There's no 100% right way. Like a sport, you can be a damn good player. But some days will be better than others. Just platy the game, every day, and learn to continue despite failures. The game is really that simple, and thats how you get good at this.

- Luv Jack-Stripper
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ambiguity

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nebuR wrote:
Seriously guys, I dont know what is wrong here, sometimes Im just so outgoing, funny, confident, get everyone laughing and enjoying my company, girls attracted. Other times, like tonight, when at a buddys party, Im just stiff, Im boring as FUCK and I just sit there, cant come up with one god damn sentence, just go with the flow and listen when the other speak and make some comment and thats about it. I feel people dont wanna socialise with me and they rather look at the other dudes when talking, Im not even near to be the anchor of the conversation. At the same time 2 girls who I go in the same class as say "So nebur, u fuck a new girl every weekend or how is it ? ;)" they look at me like some kind of super player despite im NOT, im not even NEAR being good with girls but they ask me anyway, they really BELIVE I am lol!

But I feel so fucking boring, and I think "god damnit, wtf are you doing? u can be this confident funny guy with all the attention some times, and now ure just a fucking chody with a REALLY boring personality sitting here+? wtf dude wake up!" and stuff.


Anyone experienced this? Wtf is wrong? I feel a MASSIVE identity crisis, I have NO IDEA of who I am
http://www.innerself.com/Behavior_Modification/effort.htm

Too much effort mate. Its try hard. You can go through every single PUA thread, video, BC, sumit, etc and still suck with women. Why? Cause its over the top trying to live up this or that. When you are doing well, it comes natural. Its free flowing. Your not trying. Its effortless. WHen in fact, you go hard, you get the exact opposite result instead of what you truly desire.

What to do? Laugh. Its not a big deal. So, what? You had an off night. Your in for more in the future but, your in for some good. Enjoy the ride.

The ups & downs, they give us balance. They center us.

Don't attempt to encapsulate an identitfy in what you do (especially pick up).

Some of the lads on the forum are gonna break my balls for it but, fuck it.

There are some of my mates who got some really awesome game. I do well but, they supersede my game no joke. Well, my one mate pulled some fucking model in NYC. I actually pulled her over and he closed. The way we roll, we both try and bring in the girls. He was just on fire. I hooked up with this girl at a Jets Game. After we sent the girls off, we were talking about pulling girls, parting, night life and so on. Whereas, I am admiring my mate for how well he is with girls, he was admiring one of his mates cause, he feels his mate pulls more then he does.

Its a cycle of insanity.

In the end, the onus is on self. Don't worry about what others think. Stop looking to the community, the forums, and outside sources. You already got it in you. Sure, you can condition yourself better but, your on your way. I am sure you have already take drastic steps in the dirction of achieving your goals. Part of it is like David says about, "two steps forward, one step back." His intention was in terms of pulling and for escalating with girls but, its the perfect metaphor. Some nights, you are just on. I mentioned in a thread about going out solo how, I was there for 20minutes and picked up. Fuck, I had a bathroom pull going till I got cock blocked by the cunt in the bathroom & security. I beach fucked this chick on my second encounter. Do all interactions on a night out solo go this way? Hell no. Still, the key is to have fun and not beat yourself up about it. Just have some fun and loosen up.
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Just relax. This too will pass.
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