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#21
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This is stella advice (as usual) from Ambiguity, just flow with it and think a little beforhand where to go.  From your post you seem nervou and not leading also stuck in your head and outcome dependant.  all these 'terms' are annoying i know but when you get it you'll get it!  Sorry im not being very eloquent Ambiguity said it much better than i have!
ambiguity wrote:
Sword mate, I am glad you progressing.

Part of game is succeeding and sometimes, you succeed but, you feel like you fail.

In a sense, you never really fail cause you game life experience.

That i the smartest way to look at it.

Mate, this shit is so easy. Do not make it harder then it is. If you had "chode" moments like everyone even naturals experience, it reminds you that you are human and you got things to learn.

Stop thinking about the social awkwardness of it all. If you are meeting her again, likely, you established something.

Women are usually socially intelligent at least in terms of intimacy but, they expect you as the guy to lead. Some girls who have been violated and around the block like the village bicycle wont need much lighter fuel to get that flame going. Assume you need to lead.

Stop looking at it as "Escalating" or some sort of pick up lingo. It just fucks with you.

When your with a beautiful girl, a girl you find attractive, let your natural desires, and actions overwhelm you. Let that motivational desire, that core purpose propell you towards what you want in that given moment.

Be confident. This isn't a big deal. If you get slapped, if you get dumped, stood up, ditched or whatever, it will only make you stronger.

There are so many girls.

What I want you to do is stop putting so much effort into this. Its a waste of time. What you can do is just let things flow freely. You should not have to put in so much effort.

Bait the girls into interacting but, don't act out of seeking a response. The more you "try," the less results you have.

Part of it all, you take two steps forward (numbers, make outs, hook ups, flings, pull) and one step back (number flakes, girl doesn't return calls, only one night stand, she doesn't like you, etc).

WHo gives a fuck? There are so many girls. Do not get hype. Go for what you want and take none of the results personally. Your value as a guy isn't based upon her opinion of you. All that maters is what you want in that given moment. The sec you know what that is, act upon it. Do not wait for her to reciprocate. Lift her up, make out with her, go down her shirt, go up her skirt, and fuck her. Its simple. Put less effort. Don't think of all the right words or put a script together. Its all for nothing. Within successful pick up, it isn't even about saying the perfect things or doing all the perfect moves or "tactics." Its all unnecessary. I have had moments where, its 10 GAME, spitting fire. Go figure, I pull. When I look back, it didn't matter what I had said. It doesn't matter what I have done. It was inevitable. She likes me. Then again, during a blow out, when the girl isn't down, it wont matter if you are spitting fire or not, some girls just aren't down. There is opportunities here to be heroic and not get butt hurt. Don't pout. Take it on the chin and sattle up for the next girl. There will always be more.

Mate, if it isn't this girl, there will always be others. And guess what? They are hot, around the corner, and the best part is that, they want TO MAKE BABIES.

Cheers mate!
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ambiguity

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Mate, its "two steps forward, one step back."

Like David says to work with women, success in business or any walk in life goes the typical same root.

For instance, you from months ago where you were beating up on yourself for not "approaching" in a shopping mall to numbers, and day 2?

Mate, that is significant progress. Fast forward to the future, fuck buddy, relationships, gf, marriage, kids, etc.

It all depends on what you want. Remember that.

Depak has a formula on "Law of Least Effort/Economy of effort."

It implies, the more effort you press, the more you "try," the exact oppose happens. Its a bit of a mind fuck.

Contriving, routines, tactics, reading all sorts of forum theories, threads, PUA jargon, etc all falls into the same category.

Sure, read, do a BC if you must, read but, like you are doing, keep at it by going out. Put that ball in motion. Live it up.

As for the info, there is a complete difference between reading pick up and then actually doing it.

I can only imagine a BC is overwhelming cause, you get bombarded with a bunch of stuff, put into unfamilair territory, poor sets (hot girls in awful situations: SINK OR SWIM), and you grow. 

Mate, I got chills reading this post.

I am so thrilled you are progressing. Its awesome. In that sense, I can only imagine an instructor's job being exciting and very self help like.

It may sound gay but, during your 30day challenge, you may want to video document it. Come back to it in a years time to see the transformation. I am sure the RSD PUAs/Instructors are overwhelmed with their own transformations.

As for not beating yourself up and being positive, checkout Tony Robbin's book, "Awaken the Giant Within."
This book changed my life forever. Beyond every source I came across, this was the thing that set into motion where I am today. All the pick up content in the world has not did for me what Tony Robbins did. I read it like, seven years ago. You gain a lot of insight, basic psychology and a bunch of life tools that you can adopt. Also, you learn to condition yourself. I constantly go back to it. One of the best things is that 10day mental challenge. Check it out. Its amazing. When you get a stream of negative content, the incessant mental noise, and internal narritive is gravitating towards being critical of others and self, you catch it. It all takes time. You begin to "patten interrupt" yourself. You also step it up in all areas of life. I read this book and it changed my life, my "game," finances, and the direction of my life. I don't want to imagine a world or life without this transformation. I don't even recognize my old self. It was that powerful and I fully intend to go to one of his seminars. When I make my millions, I want this fucker on speed dial. tounge

Good luck with the next girl bro. The best advise I can give you is to project your intent, your personal, portray your best feats, and no matter the outcome, take none of it to heart.

This applies with the success or the "learning experiences."

Don't identify with it.

With great powers comes great responsibilities. wink
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#23

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besserwisser wrote:



ambiguity wrote:
When I look back, it didn't matter what I had said. It doesn't matter what I have done. It was inevitable. She likes me. Then again, during a blow out, when the girl isn't down, it wont matter if you are spitting fire or not, some girls just aren't down.
why is this guy always being right with what he says?! good stuff!
lol I'll second that. ya Ambiguity you definately always have advice that is on point. And I will definately read that book awaken the giant within, because that sounds like a pretty intense transformation. I'll try to also record my 30 day challenge of being positive, may be difficult with a roomate and all.
And I'm glad you can share my successes, man you don't even know how good it feels (or maybe you do) to look back in my regular journal (not on RSD) and just see the insanity I wrote about how I felt everything was stagnant, I was trapped not just with girls but also life and some other passions I had (business, success, sports, friends); now I am getting a few specks of the success, and its all starting to move foward, even if I was failing I would be fine, at least now I am trying because to be honest right now all I have in terms of solid success in all those categories is like I said just specks of success, but I am pulling this shit together.
BTW I don't know what you mean by that law of least effort, but I'll look it up; I wonder if it is that stuff related to four hour work week.

@ Reformation, ya I kinda think a bit too much, kinda relates to what Drama says, I can't help but thinking analytically and think step by step procedure to get girl to fuck, I'll try and keep that in mind....or not in mind.

@Drama - Thx, ya it is exciting moving foward this fast, I mean to get that progress it is kinda scary but I find I just gotta act and it all is fine even if I get rejected or intense embarassment. The consequences are almost always higher for not taking action vs. taking action. And I know what you mean about being analytical, I just feel like if I just have fun or whatever my chode mind takes over and I am like wtf should I do, I mean deep down on some level I just wanna go beast/caveman mode and be awesome and fuck all the bitches. But right now, I will try to forget this stuff when I go out or try not to focus on it so much, idk though I feel like I will be like how should I have fun, my brain will freeze up and I will think to myself what should I do, default response explore go to bathroom, etc.etc until I have wasted away the night. I feel like I am not at the level where I can just have fun, I think I have to go for concrete goals or else I'll start slipping, but I will give it a go tonight.

Anyway I feel like this forum has become a mini FR,but I can't help it, it has too much momentum; although seriously after this I am going to just report new successes/failures on my fr, unless it happens to relate to the day 2. Those day 2 s today didn't work out, although one of the girls keeps txting me, so she is in to me, I just stopped answering the txts bc she wont meet up, to time consuming. Either way big news is I am hopefully going to the club tonite if I get in, past nights I did it half assed, now I gotta stop being a and go for it, solo or not I can't wait for my friends to get their shit together. Also, I'm goin back home soon which is bad because my game may go to a virtual halt if I can't push curfew past 1, which would suck but I got many other things to do too.

Also question from before- I wanted to friendzone a girl, I want to litterally convert her from a makeout/potential fb to a friend. There is a reason for this, but anyway thx, later, great posts.
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#24
ambiguity

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The Sword wrote:



besserwisser wrote:



ambiguity wrote:
When I look back, it didn't matter what I had said. It doesn't matter what I have done. It was inevitable. She likes me. Then again, during a blow out, when the girl isn't down, it wont matter if you are spitting fire or not, some girls just aren't down.
why is this guy always being right with what he says?! good stuff!
lol I'll second that. ya Ambiguity you definately always have advice that is on point. And I will definately read that book awaken the giant within, because that sounds like a pretty intense transformation. I'll try to also record my 30 day challenge of being positive, may be difficult with a roomate and all.
And I'm glad you can share my successes, man you don't even know how good it feels (or maybe you do) to look back in my regular journal (not on RSD) and just see the insanity I wrote about how I felt everything was stagnant, I was trapped not just with girls but also life and some other passions I had (business, success, sports, friends); now I am getting a few specks of the success, and its all starting to move foward, even if I was failing I would be fine, at least now I am trying because to be honest right now all I have in terms of solid success in all those categories is like I said just specks of success, but I am pulling this shit together.
BTW I don't know what you mean by that law of least effort, but I'll look it up; I wonder if it is that stuff related to four hour work week.

@ Reformation, ya I kinda think a bit too much, kinda relates to what Drama says, I can't help but thinking analytically and think step by step procedure to get girl to fuck, I'll try and keep that in mind....or not in mind.

@Drama - Thx, ya it is exciting moving foward this fast, I mean to get that progress it is kinda scary but I find I just gotta act and it all is fine even if I get rejected or intense embarassment. The consequences are almost always higher for not taking action vs. taking action. And I know what you mean about being analytical, I just feel like if I just have fun or whatever my chode mind takes over and I am like wtf should I do, I mean deep down on some level I just wanna go beast/caveman mode and be awesome and fuck all the bitches. But right now, I will try to forget this stuff when I go out or try not to focus on it so much, idk though I feel like I will be like how should I have fun, my brain will freeze up and I will think to myself what should I do, default response explore go to bathroom, etc.etc until I have wasted away the night. I feel like I am not at the level where I can just have fun, I think I have to go for concrete goals or else I'll start slipping, but I will give it a go tonight.

Anyway I feel like this forum has become a mini FR,but I can't help it, it has too much momentum; although seriously after this I am going to just report new successes/failures on my fr, unless it happens to relate to the day 2. Those day 2 s today didn't work out, although one of the girls keeps txting me, so she is in to me, I just stopped answering the txts bc she wont meet up, to time consuming. Either way big news is I am hopefully going to the club tonite if I get in, past nights I did it half assed, now I gotta stop being a and go for it, solo or not I can't wait for my friends to get their shit together. Also, I'm goin back home soon which is bad because my game may go to a virtual halt if I can't push curfew past 1, which would suck but I got many other things to do too.

Also question from before- I wanted to friendzone a girl, I want to litterally convert her from a makeout/potential fb to a friend. There is a reason for this, but anyway thx, later, great posts.
The law of Least Effort is on about how when you apply too much effort, try too hard, things tend to go in reverse as oppose to the way you desire. Here is a link for you to check out with Depak Chopra. http://www.innerself.com/Behavior_Modification/effort.htm

The universal laws are awesome man. I find guys naturally good with women pull on these. Any way, basically, after you come to grip with that law, you will understand why "trying" too hard and doing all sorts of pick up material, the forums, etc can screw you up. Keep doing what you are now. Check out Tony Robbins. He really helped me out. It has been a complete transition. For whatever advise I have given and helped, it wasn't that long ago that I was this very angry kid who was always fighting, intoxicated on drugs and alcohol. What is even a bigger mind fuck is that, when you are obnoxious, instead of the world wanting to correct you or "fix" you, you get some positive results. I attracted a ton of girls being this over the top character. I made Jersey Shore look like amateur hour shit. I could attract girls with fighting, drama, being absurd but, like Ecky points out, smaller egoes are attracted to bigger egoes.

I am quite happy I can give you some helpful advise.

The problem with all this "thinking" and critical thinking is that, its more trying.

Mate, it should be free flowing. It should be all natural. Its all interconnected. That chaos theory is perfect description for that life path of say, not changing or transforming vs. pulling a girl. You leave that path and create an entirely new one.

Take up a sense of entitlement with women, with life, the best of this and that.


Just let the girl know you want to be friends. Girls can make out with randoms and be a "kissing slut" but, not do any more. Its all about what you want. If you don't feel the vibe or a connection with her, make friends with her. Another thing to do is bring her out with you. She will attract other girls for you. Its seriously some of the best things you can do. Keep this in mind man. It is golden.
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Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#! Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.


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When you start having more fun having fun your disengage that analytical side. You just enjoy the shit. Go,Get, Enjoy. Not how do i get, what do I say, how do i enjoy.. Just go. Over power that side for a little while.
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 Agree with 10pin, the biggest point for improvement here wasn't your escalation, but in how you bought into the awkwardness... become comfortable... by becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable.

I'm imaginging a situation where you not touching her began to bug you more and more, and things felt more and more awkward... this is a similar thought pattern to what happens to you when you don't approach... we all do it. But the best thing you can do is just to ignore the whole "this is so awkward" thought, and take it for what it is.

If you're comfortable, she'll be comfortable... and touching will be normal.
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@ ambiguity - thx again, that law of least effort stuff is very good, I will try to apply that, its kinda like meditation. I gotta start meditating every day again. Actuallly I meditated before the party last night, holy shit I felt good, I was so present.

@ Steve o - ya I definately will try to do that just have fun kinda and follow what I want. Actually kinda did that last nite a bit just did crazy dance moves, and went insane, very fun time, and it did work. I am quite happy rite now even though it didn't work out.

@ Halffull - this is such a big thing ignoring the akwardness, and uncomfortableness, it is quite a funny paradox. That is excellently worded, ignore the akwardness and stuff.

I am so tired, later
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Drama wrote:
This isn't directly related to what you were told about being comfortable around the girl, but another great skill is being able to tolerate massive social tension...look at Sacha Cohen (Borat)...the guy can ride out the tension in front of an ENTIRE audience.

Owen talks about it in the Blueprint, and it struck a chord with me.

I'll keep this in mind, I think I may try to do something insane tonite and create massive tension, like dance on a bar or somthin, it will come to me. I assume that is how I can get used to massive social tension, by creating it. Problem is there is barely any parties tonite only small stuff, and I am waiting till NYC for the clubs, Boston can suck it for now. I may wanna re watch the blueprint that really aligned with me.
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Good stuff mate. I suggest being cautious how much stuff you take on at once. The whole point of the law of least effort is emphasizing the point of things being free flowing and natural. Just condition yourself and watch things out of pure enjoyment. Don't take it so seriously. Are you taking a BC?
The Sword wrote:



Drama wrote:
This isn't directly related to what you were told about being comfortable around the girl, but another great skill is being able to tolerate massive social tension...look at Sacha Cohen (Borat)...the guy can ride out the tension in front of an ENTIRE audience.

Owen talks about it in the Blueprint, and it struck a chord with me.

I'll keep this in mind, I think I may try to do something insane tonite and create massive tension, like dance on a bar or somthin, it will come to me. I assume that is how I can get used to massive social tension, by creating it. Problem is there is barely any parties tonite only small stuff, and I am waiting till NYC for the clubs, Boston can suck it for now. I may wanna re watch the blueprint that really aligned with me.
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#! Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.


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#30

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I was going to take a BC 18+ in boston but the problem was that I thought about it there are no good 18+ night venues, so that would be eliminating half the point of a BC. This is not some of chode perception where I'm thinking this place sucks kinda mentality, they are actually overcrowded places, where there are way to many dudes, not many girls, and there are barely any hot girls+you can't even practice game because every single one opens ridiculously easily probably because all the other guys are creeping back rapers (the one time I did pick up a girl from this place, she even told me this, and I never went back).

So long story short I am going to take a NYC 18+ or NYC 21+(idk how strict NYC is on ids), because my id is not good enough to pass many of Boston's venus , unless I bribe, go VIP or bring hot girls.

I may be abe to get better id but I look kinda young.

Problem is NYC 18+ stuff is during the week so I must go during the break and then I must think of some bullshit excuse for me to disapear for 3 days into NYC during the week with unknown friends and an unknown objective. Frankly I know it is a bit chode but I have grown up in suburbia where I'm taught to fear everything, so me going into NYC alone is scary+from what I have been told dangerous since I have only been there a few times (idk how I would ever learn the city then). I am willing to ignore this because I don't really care anymore I remember high school wrapped up in the cocoon of caution and protection, guess what it fucking sucked and I hated life. They keep telling me there is a high chance of getting mugged so I always have to be with a group, and I kinda believe that, I mean it makes sense, but I have to go into NYC solo because I can't have friends questioning my disapearances. Overall I am really really confused.

Bottom line I hope it is worth the effort but my goal is to have somthin together before the coming summer.
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