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Note: This guide is focused on MFF 3somes.
Raguu's Guide to MFF 3somes PT 1

Background

I'm 35, and have been involved in 3somes since I was 22. I've always assumed it was completely natural that when you hook up with a girl for at least a few weeks the next step is to involve other girls to spice up the interaction.When I found my way into the swinging community, the idea of 3somes/4somes/moresomes being a natural progression was solidified. Looking back, I think part of my success has been my 100% belief that it's going down and it's just a matter of time. Honestly, I don't know. I was talking to my bros Phred! and Drama a bit about this topic lately and thought I'd offer some suggestions.

Screening for BiSexual Girls

I believe most girls are bisexual to some degree. I don't know much about this topic in terms of reading, this is just from my experience over the last 13 years of 3somes. Granted, I've noticed different levels of interest but there always seems to be at least 'some' interest. Again, I assume if she's hanging out with me for more than a few weeks, she already knows I'm fairly laid back and open to sexual adventure and this shit is going down... period.

Seeding the Interaction

After texting Phred! a bit last week about the topic, I realize I do certain steps without thinking about it. Here's some examples:

- During sex, I love talking about how hot the girl is, how she makes me feel, and how I bet other girls find her sexy. I make her say it... (depending on the vibe) something as simple as 'girls like to check out my hot ass' to 'girls get wet when I'm close to them'. In the moment, it's fun.. it gets them more turned on and I'm able to see how comfortable they are to the idea.

- I like asking questions like 'Which was weirder for you, the first time you were with a girl or your first 3some'. I don't know why, but that seems to come out with every girls I hang out with. I assume it happened, and if they say neither.. I call BS on them (always playful.. just how I am and they know that).  If she's cute, I assume she's at least made out with a gf. If she says neither, I think I say something like 'Yeah, I wouldn't count getting drunk and making out with girls at parties either'. Comments like that always opens a dialog.

- I talk openingly about my experiences (this is usually after pounding her) and usually joke about the work that goes into 3somes. I say things like 'Yeah, to most guys.. the ideas of a 3some is so erotic, watching 2 girls make out while I (some graphic details) but as you know (I assume she's been there) it's more like hoping the girl is really bisexual and the dude lasts more than 5 minutes'.  Yeah, I know.. these aren't $$$ comments, I'm just very relaxed, it's no big deal.. it's fun, it's natural kinda vibe.

- I like to find out what kind of porn she's into (personally, I really don't dig porn unless is amateur, but this is about her), watch it with her, and then molest her as I whisper stuff like 'Could you imagine, some girl coming over blah blah'

- If I'm out at a bar or any social gathering, I'll get other cute girls say something nice about my girl. Something like 'Eh, take a look at these shoes, fking hot right?' or ' Can you imagine the crap I deal with, I walk in with xxx and guys just stare at her like a piece of meat.. she's so fking hot'. I just thought of this one now, I love getting girls talking about each other.

- I make sure she understands it's our bubble, the girl I'm talking about the 3some with IS the primary focus. 'How hot would it be to feel another pairs of hands blah blah as we keep eye contact blah blah"

- Somehow making a reference about my hair and not judging seems to work.. hard to explain. I find myself saying stuff like 'Hey, you know me (even if we've only known each other for a week or two), my hair is (orange/blue/green.. whatever color I'm rocking that month), I don't judge'. They seem to get the feeling that I'm constantly being judged, so I'm the last one who would do that to her.

- If you haven't seen that movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', do it. Once you've seen it, pop it on one night with your girl. There's so many things you can explore 'indirectly' and guage where she's at and help lead it to something kinky.

**** Note: As I'm become more comfortable, the seeding would usually happen after the 2nd or 3rd hookup.. but this was my gameplan for years

Doesn't always work

I had this ex g/f Kim pop back in my life about 5 months ago. She was really cute, rode me like a porn star and was just a cool chick to be around when I could find time. We had some girl adventures like 8 years ago so I thought this was a done deal. I started seeding it again and booooom, and was having none of that. She was 'done' with all that, she didn't like the idea of my social circle of girls because she 'knew how I was' and all that jazz. So yeah, that reunion lasted about 2 weeks. I knew she wouldn't fit into my life, so why waste each other's time? Here's the thing, I'm not afraid of it NOT working. I like certain sexually adventurous girls in my life... but if it doesn't fly, oh well. She's been down this path with me before, so it wasn't that she was nervous and needed resassurance, she didn't want to go down that path. Awesome, saves us both a lot of time. Next.

Whether it's a new girl, fuck buddy or long term girlfriend.. trying to force it to happen is not part of my gameplan. I like to bring it up enough to make the girl feel like it's an adventure we BOTH want to share.. not some needy dude needing another chick because his current one isn't satisifying enough.

If you read my Unicorns FR, you'll see I blew it with one of my girls gfs from work. I knew it was on, but I didn't pull quick enough... she got entirely too drunk, too quick (managing my logistics). She puked in my car and I carried her drunk ass up the steps and plopped her on the futon with some blankets and pillows. Me and my girl went into the bedroom, amazing sex... role played, talked a lot about that night and said crap like 'Tell me you liked watching your friend grind against me'.

So I text the friend the other day:

(Me) Hey, it was fun hanging out last week Drunkie McGoo  (No idea where that came from, can't remember the reference)

(Her) I don't really remember anything  ((You mean like grinding my cock, or me carrying you around the bar all the night...oook, that's chill))

(Me) Yeah, you kept telling me it was the best night of your life

(Her) It was great  ((But you didn't remember anything, I see))

(Me) We're ready to go out again, minus a few shots for your ass. Believe me, my backseat would appreciate it.

(Her) After finals, let's do another Wed night!

I'll try again... I just have to believe she wants this to go down... so I'll get the girls flirting like I did last time and we'll go from there.


Final Thoughts for Part 1

I'll tell you what I hear more than anything else with girls I've had 3somes with... 'It felt right'. I think seeding played a major part in it. It's never forced, ever. It's like when you're a young kid and realize once you start kissing, it's only a matter of time before your hand goes up her shirt... then her skirt. It's the same mentality, I know if we're still hooking up.. it's only natural to involve another girl. The seeding isn't to trick her, it's to help her along the path. It's to let her know it's okay and I'm totally cool with it.

Another thing that comes to mind, It HAS TO BE about the girls, period. If the girls aren't comfortable with each other, it's not going down. Maybe some of you pimps get around this, and I can't tell you I haven't 'made it happen'.. but that's an exception to what I've seen as everyday 3somes. I'll talk more about how to get the girls comfortable in future sections (providing you guys find this useful).

Where I'm at Now

I have a rocking bisexual gf that 'gets it'. With our recently introduction into some stripper swinger circles, it's really now a matter of finding time to go to events. There's a part of me that's not happy, it's almost like it's now too freaking easy... so lately, I've been working on nailing ex gfs with my gf (nailed one down already, timing issue) and her single 'innocent' type gfs. Life is short, I'm here to enjoy it and bring a little joy where I can. :)
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 Awesome dude I def learned some new ways to seed here. 

Bring it on
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Hey man, I really appreciate the response. I respect your contributions to the site and glad you could find a nugget or two.
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 Awesome dude I def learned some new ways to seed here. 

Bring it on
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Cool stuff.
I would like to add one thing. Distinguishing the 3 main ways a threesome can happen :

1- you hook up with a girl. You make her want to have some  3some with you or watever, and then you have 3 somes with diferent girls with her. It is what jeffy was doing and it seems that it is what you do. I believe it is the most difficult way (I think that maybe because I ve never done it, probably because I am too lazy and not patient enough)

2- you meet some(usually  2 or3 )girls in a bar/club, they invite you to their place or you invite them to yours. You have sex with them. (the snl threesome, very easy to get IME)

3- you hook up with a girl, and you get to know her best friend, who is cool and bit crazy, llike the girl you ve hooked up with. You like her best friend and she likes you too. They also know you are crazy and naughty and opened minded, they know you are a total and non judegemtal,( maybe the girl you ve hooked up with , told you she already hd a3 some , maybe not doesnt matter..) one night you all 3 get a bit drunk together, sex happens (the most solid way to get 3some regularly in my recent experience doing that several times..)

ps: you probably also do the number 3 method, since it is mostly a variation of the number 1, but just way easier and less work I think.. I always prefer the easiest way, I dont like to work, or plan, or even think in order  to get laid.
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how do you get around female jealousy/possessiveness of their property? I successfully seeded the threesome idea with both my gfs, and got them both wanting it, but it never eventuated because both would equivocate on the issue...one moment wanting it, another time getting jealous at another girl even flirting with me in front of them. Thus both relationships eventually ended before I had a chance to capitalise, but i sense that it would have blown up in my face. Maybe its just down to personality type and finding a chill girl, or are there ways to diffuse the jealousy somewhat?
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Great point, I can tell you've been down the path yourself quite a bit. I'm going to talk about these 3 types in Part 3. For me personally, Option 3 has always been the easiest. Once I figure out the jealousy issues, I always go for this option. I'm never afraid of losing the primary girl.. if she's not down for this type of 'mild' adventure, she's sure the hell not going to blend into the rest of my crazy little world. I agree with what you said about it being solid, it's goes down just as you described. I usually like doing something 'crazy' and 'checking out' an adult arcade together. 

Option 1 is my new favorite. I'm now with a very cool chick that knows how to make this all go down... to the point where it almost annoys me at times (yeah, my own hangup). Swinger type clubs are a joke with her.. it's almost like point and choose, so I've been focused on dive bars/parties. This is where my fun is personally because the dynamic is so interesting. We've had a solid pull at a party and club on my 30 day challenge (all non lifestyle events), however, it's much more work than option 3. I like it... I feel like I'm learning a lot in the process.

Option 2 is really not my thing. I've done it before (parties, this is where I spent most of my time as opposed to the bar/club scene), it was hot, but just not my jam. I really like having 'some type' of emotional connection with one of the girls first.. so it's like we're both fucking the 3rd girl. Even if I only knew the girl a week or two before hand... it's just something that's a huge turn on for me personally. I feel like it also helps me build momentum for the next hookup with her.

Great information man, look forward to exploring this one more.
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Cool stuff.
I would like to add one thing. Distinguishing the 3 main ways a threesome can happen :

1- you hook up with a girl. You make her want to have some  3some with you or watever, and then you have 3 somes with diferent girls with her. It is what jeffy was doing and it seems that it is what you do. I believe it is the most difficult way (I think that maybe because I ve never done it, probably because I am too lazy and not patient enough)

2- you meet some(usually  2 or3 )girls in a bar/club, they invite you to their place or you invite them to yours. You have sex with them. (the snl threesome, very easy to get IME)

3- you hook up with a girl, and you get to know her best friend, who is cool and bit crazy, llike the girl you ve hooked up with. You like her best friend and she likes you too. They also know you are crazy and naughty and opened minded, they know you are a total and non judegemtal,( maybe the girl you ve hooked up with , told you she already hd a3 some , maybe not doesnt matter..) one night you all 3 get a bit drunk together, sex happens (the most solid way to get 3some regularly in my recent experience doing that several times..)

ps: you probably also do the number 3 method, since it is mostly a variation of the number 1, but just way easier and less work I think.. I always prefer the easiest way, I dont like to work, or plan, or even think in order  to get laid.
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Raguu's Guide to MFF 3somes PT 2

Jealousy and Possessiveness

Kaleidoscope brings up the topic of jealousy/possiveness and it's a huge factor when trying to make the 3some happen. Here's just a few random thoughts on the topic:

- When I'm seeding the idea, it's always about US banging the girl and not being involved in some type of random 3some. I always let the primary girl know it's an adventure we're going to share together. It might sound obvious but my results have SUCKED when I didn't build that bubble of fuck around us.

- If the seeding is taking hold and you can tell she's receptive, I start slowly introducing it into while having sex (this is why I like to wait until I've hooked up with a girl a few times). For example, I'll suck her left tit and start saying things like 'Imagine what it would feel like to have another pair of lips on this tits' as I start playing with the other tit.

- I'm never saying shit like 'Imagine what it would be like watching my slam another girl' unless I know she's ready to go. I make it about how it'll feel for HER. How much fun it'll be to share the experience between US. I'm not using a lot of ME in these interactions. Now, I'm sure some of you advanced guys probably skip this step, but this is part of my procedure. I'm not just looking for one time, I'm trying to get her comfortable enough to let her know it's

1. No big deal
2. Something we can share together
3. She's the focus not the other girl
4. She won't be judged
5. It's an adventure

- I mentioned this in part 1, but I always get the girls flirting with each other. I didn't even realize that's what I do until I started to write up this guide.. but it seems to make life easier later on. For example, I get them talking about how cute they look, how all the guys are walking by and molesting them with their eyes (and I usually act it out in a dramatic way because that's part of my personality) ... I get them laughing and meanwhile hugging them, hi-fiving whatever. I want/need this to be fun for this girls... I want them to BOTH realize that the most fun they are going to have all night is if we all stay together. Once that's established, the pull seems natural.. like it would be weird not to go grab some drinks in private or a bite to eat.

- I like to get the girls hugging and flirting but personally, I never try to get the girls to kiss in public. It's just backfired way too many times, for me, it doesn't help with the pull AT ALL. I don't want either girl to feel the social pressure... I much rather grind with them on the dance floor (no excuse, I'm one of the worst dancers.. but I don't care, I'm mixed in with 2 girls.. even I'll look good ha).

- I'll make comments about how freaking lucky the girls are to be rolling with a guy like me. I do this on purpose, because almost without fail, the girls will come back and say something like 'Oh NO, you SHOULD feel lucky hanging with us'. Boooom, that's what I want... 'US'.  I want the girls to form a bond... I'll usually then say something to the effect of we're the party wooooooo. Leads me to the next point

- Check your ego at the door guys, it's all about the girls.

**** Edit: I've been reading some of Manwhore's 3some reports this morning, his approach is not all about the girls... looking to experiment a bit with this. We do share quite a few similarities in terms of paying more attention to the primary during the act, the other girl being a toy and everyone knowing their role.  ****

If the girls aren't comfortable, shit isn't going down. Especially after bootcamp, I was freaking charged. So my girl and I are at this party and things are going as expected... the girl is receptive, my girl and the new one are clicking, it's obviously on.. I should be happy right? No, inside I'm going ' WTF, it's like my girl is leading the charge here, I'm THE FUCKING MAN... '. So this goes on for a bit and then she whispers the words that almost made me lose it , 'Shhh...she's ready, let's go'.  UGGGGHHHHHH  

Now I want you to picture how messed up this is... this shit is going down, no doubt. My girl is smart enough to realize it and I'm getting bothered because she's making it happen. I had a moment of clarity a few seconds later and started laughing. Keep in mind, it's about the girls.. and ultimately giving pleasure to both of them. It's not a one-on-one dynamic..  My girl was also smart enough to prompt me and not try to verbally lead. I respect that. Look, I've done this for awhile and I think I'm 'solid'  but man... the cues a bisexual girl picks up is freaking scary.

Nathan!'s advice was really solid, 'Get out of your own way'.  For you guys that are freaking monsters infield, I have a feeling this is an adjustment you'll need to deal with as well.


In the next installment, I want to talk about the different 3somes JohnG brought up and what to do when you pull her out of the venue (or if it's a friend of hers coming by your place).
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JohnG wrote:
Cool stuff.
I would like to add one thing. Distinguishing the 3 main ways a threesome can happen :

1- you hook up with a girl. You make her want to have some  3some with you or watever, and then you have 3 somes with diferent girls with her. It is what jeffy was doing and it seems that it is what you do. I believe it is the most difficult way (I think that maybe because I ve never done it, probably because I am too lazy and not patient enough)

2- you meet some(usually  2 or3 )girls in a bar/club, they invite you to their place or you invite them to yours. You have sex with them. (the snl threesome, very easy to get IME)

3- you hook up with a girl, and you get to know her best friend, who is cool and bit crazy, llike the girl you ve hooked up with. You like her best friend and she likes you too. They also know you are crazy and naughty and opened minded, they know you are a total and non judegemtal,( maybe the girl you ve hooked up with , told you she already hd a3 some , maybe not doesnt matter..) one night you all 3 get a bit drunk together, sex happens (the most solid way to get 3some regularly in my recent experience doing that several times..)

ps: you probably also do the number 3 method, since it is mostly a variation of the number 1, but just way easier and less work I think.. I always prefer the easiest way, I dont like to work, or plan, or even think in order  to get laid.



You forgot #4 and actually the easiest way - field tested.

This is where you have 2 girls that you are involved sexually but don't know each other, meet up for a 3some.
It goes without saying that you put it out there with both women that it 3somes are apart of your life & she would have more fun to be involved with one than you alone.
You can seed or be more explicit. It really doesn't matter. Just don't come across to the girl like its a big deal.

Also make sure you establish who the alpha female is. That's the one with more 3some experience or the girl who's more emotionally invested in you more.

This is where Brad's no fail date plan even comes more into play.
After you get both women to meet with you, you invite them both over for drinks at your place & going out to some lounge after.

The girls are usually so nervous that they drink too much to want to go out.

It's very important than you lead the interaction 9 times out of 10.

Keep a pretty good balance when interacting with both females so one doesn't feel more left out than the other.
When starting the make out ill usually kiss the alpha female first for less than a minute, then turn and start making out with the other.

At this point, its pretty much on, flow with it, but continue to direct the 3some and enjoy!
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Kaleidoscope wrote:
how do you get around female jealousy/possessiveness of their property? I successfully seeded the threesome idea with both my gfs, and got them both wanting it, but it never eventuated because both would equivocate on the issue...one moment wanting it, another time getting jealous at another girl even flirting with me in front of them. Thus both relationships eventually ended before I had a chance to capitalise, but i sense that it would have blown up in my face. Maybe its just down to personality type and finding a chill girl, or are there ways to diffuse the jealousy somewhat?


You really have to establish that 3somes are a possibility from the very first interaction. If there's a shadow of a chance of her seeing you as boyfriend material. It's gonna be extremely difficult to pull 3some off.

You should always be subtly showing the girl that you are interested in other girls. Flirting with other girls, ect... But the best thing is to accuse your girl's action around other girls as being attracted to other girls.

It's a very delicate balance & you may lose some girls that you could keep around just as a Fuck buddy. But if you want to take it to this level, you gotta let these girls go to make room for the girls that are down for 3some. Just constantly ask yourself: how do I make this girl think of us together with another girl & make sure your actions support these thoughts.

Watch Vicky, Christina, Barcelona for a good reference for 3somes.
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