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January 19th, 2017
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#21

Social_Rob

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Join Date: 09/02/2009 | Posts: 75

I do a combo of kickboxing and krav maga so that covers the sport and the practical side of stuff and I love it. Although one of my instructors is more into muay thai and says muay thai is to kickboxing what basketball is to netball, so depends on how badass you wanna be. May have a go at muay thai at some point.

Fitness is a massive part of both and the first half of every lesson I've done is fitness drills with techniques mixed in. You'll have to get fit at some point anyway, might as well do it in the lessons and learn what you're capable of at the same time
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#22
RockNRollPUA

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NonSense wrote:
do boxing, muay thai, judo, bjj, or/and wrestling. You could do Krav maga too, but aikido takes a while to learn

This guy is the only one who named anything worth learning.  BJJ no-gi is great, or with gi, but if you can learn no-gi Brazillian Jijitsu, its better for real life.  

Muay Thai is most bad ass stand up.  Wrestling or boxing, solid also.  Judo is like....ehhhh, if you were in school you'd minor in Judo, but major in something else :)     

I know many mention Krav, but really Muay Thai vs a Krav student, assuming same attributes and experience the advantage will be in Muay Thai.  Though anything can happen in a fight. 
Not necessarily.  In a 1 on 1 fight in the ring with rules the Muay Thai Fighter would have an advantage.  On the street the Muay Thai Fighter would have very limited knowledge on fighting multiple attackers, knife deffense, handgun deffense, ground fighting, etc.  In Krav Maga they teach you to do whatever it takes to win because you are training to fight for your life.  Kicks to the groin, eye gouging, hitting vital organs, breaking bones, crushing your opponents wind pipe, and all manners of self deffense from common attacks, holds, and chokes. Muay Thai is a sport, Krav Maga is a reality based system.  Also Krav Maga uses all of the combative techniques from Muay Thai that are usefull on the street.  Knees, elbows, punches, kicks, clinches, you name it.

As a Krav Practitioner who has also done Muay Thai and BJJ, I would definately be using Krav in the street because they train you to fight in the street with no rules and no mercy.  You practice fighting in the dark, fighting while you are exhausted, fighting 5 guys at once, fighting guys with weapons, getting held up at gunpoint, getting choked from every possible situation, blocking cheapshots, situational awareness, and my school also has a carry to conceal handgun courses that get you a permit to conceal a handgun anywhere in the state. 
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#23

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RockNRollPUA wrote:



OMGClayAiken wrote:





NonSense wrote:
do boxing, muay thai, judo, bjj, or/and wrestling. You could do Krav maga too, but aikido takes a while to learn

This guy is the only one who named anything worth learning.  BJJ no-gi is great, or with gi, but if you can learn no-gi Brazillian Jijitsu, its better for real life.  

Muay Thai is most bad ass stand up.  Wrestling or boxing, solid also.  Judo is like....ehhhh, if you were in school you'd minor in Judo, but major in something else :)     

I know many mention Krav, but really Muay Thai vs a Krav student, assuming same attributes and experience the advantage will be in Muay Thai.  Though anything can happen in a fight. 
Not necessarily.  In a 1 on 1 fight in the ring with rules the Muay Thai Fighter would have an advantage.  On the street the Muay Thai Fighter would have very limited knowledge on fighting multiple attackers, knife deffense, handgun deffense, ground fighting, etc.  In Krav Maga they teach you to do whatever it takes to win because you are training to fight for your life.  Kicks to the groin, eye gouging, hitting vital organs, breaking bones, crushing your opponents wind pipe, and all manners of self deffense from common attacks, holds, and chokes. Muay Thai is a sport, Krav Maga is a reality based system.  Also Krav Maga uses all of the combative techniques from Muay Thai that are usefull on the street.  Knees, elbows, punches, kicks, clinches, you name it.

Yeah, I dunno if this happens everywhere but at my club we do "pressure testing" where 1 person is in the middle of 4 or 5 people attacking him/her in different ways (headlocks, chokes, on the floor, knife attacks, etc) for a 2 min round with another person wearing boxing gloves hitting them repeatedly. Its fucking tough but really useful.
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#24

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Join Date: 05/15/2008 | Posts: 143

masonstorm wrote:
What is everybodies experience with martial arts? would you recomend learning them? I was thinking about signing up for aikido. Would you guys recomend another school of martial arts?
It really just depends on what you are after?  What do you want out of martial arts? It it's for sports, fitness, competetion, spirituality, and all the other shit, then you have quite a number to choose from!

But if you want pure self defense, then go for one of the Reality Based Self Defense systems out there.  Here's some instructors/systems you can check out-----Senshido (Richard Dimitri), Tony Blauer, Jim Grover/Kelly MacCann, Geoff Thompson, Contemporary Fighting Arts, Krav Maga, Marc "Animal" MacYoung, Target Focus Training, Scientific Fighting Congress (Hock Hocheim), Jim Wagner, any CQB/CQC (Military Combatives), Paul Vunak.

Also check out Eskrima/Arnis/Kali.  The Filipino martial arts are very good for self defense, as close as you can get to RBSD systems. Check out Paul Vunak and his organisation.

My top pick? In order...

1) Senshido
2) Tony Blauer
3) Kelly MacCann
4)TFT
5)Mar "Animal" MacYoung

For Martial arts...

1) Eskrima
2) MMA
3) Muay Thai
4)Wrestling
5)BJJ

3,4,and 5 are in MMA, as well as boxing. So if you want all around skills, then go for MMA. Add Eskrima for weapons.

The RBSD systems also have elements of  the other arts, as well as tactics and strategies designed purely for survival on the streets.

By the way, you don't need to be super fit for self defense. Of course, it helps, but not necesarry.  A good self defense system/instructor should be able to teach you how to apply your shit in whatever condition you are in, age, and gender.

Hope this helps...
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#25
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One more thing. Bas Rutten. Look him up.
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"I know many mention Krav, but really Muay
Thai vs a Krav student, assuming same
attributes and experience the advantage will be
in Muay Thai."

This is how people who don't practice martial arts talk.
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#27
MyWay

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Revolutionized wrote:

Shit. wrote:
"I know many mention Krav, but really Muay
Thai vs a Krav student, assuming same
attributes and experience the advantage will be
in Muay Thai."

This is how people who don't practice martial arts talk.

agreed. you really can't compare styles and go "karate is better than judo for these reasons xxxxxxx" it just doesnt work that way
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#28

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slothfulpizza wrote:

Jforch wrote:
Martial arts is fun and helps your growth. if your talking to a girl and it comes out in the convo that you do martial arts then you can show her some moves. this is a good way to get very physical. you can role play and tease her on her technique. you can show off a little and make yourself look like you can handle yourself and protect her. i think Martial arts are awesome. show her how to escape from a bear hug-then you get her to hug you and show her what to do then its time to switch roles and you bear hug her
Lame.

Why? I show girls BJJ all the time... It's a great way to get physical and have fun teaching them something.
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#29

julpt

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Join Date: 07/06/2010 | Posts: 66

I like people like Victor Belfort, he has character.
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#30
OMGClayAiken

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julpt wrote:
I like people like Victor Belfort, he has character.

LOL so random!  Vitor Belforts a beast waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.  His gonna take Silvas title ^.^!
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