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December 6th, 2016
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Colours

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I rarely "offer advice" on these boards unless it's a subject I feel strongly about. Why? I would much rather be a student as I believe I can learn something from everybody I meet in life. This post is the first "value offering" thread I'm starting as it deals with many of my own experiences and I think some people may be interested in hearing what I have to say. Introduction: I turned 21 years old less than 30 days ago. On November 11th of 2010 my company hit it's 2 year anniversarry. We are projected to make a quarter of a million dollars over the next year. We've worked with some of the largest conglomerates and corporations in the world. We have over 15 people who are working for the company but no office because everyone is allowed to work from home.  So young yet so successful... how? Firstly, I'm extremely humble. I never brag about my accomplishments, me bringing it up in this thread is more like a list of credentials so you know I'm not just some keyboard nerd giving out advice about something he knows nothing about. When it comes to the game as it relates to women, I still feel I have a long way to go. When it comes to entrepreneurial prowess I've reached an unorthodox level of success for the age I'm at. I want to detail my thoughts on this subject in this thread. I strongly believe ANYBODY can do what I've done. Day-to-Day Life I work maybe 3-5 hours per day on average. I live at a huge party university but I have already dropped out because the amount of money we're making is far more than enough. I'm pulling a full-time income while working part-time hours. I get to party with hotties while not taking classes. Good deal to say the least.  I smoke hella weed and I drink copious amounts of alcohol. In fact, sometimes I'll be smoking weed and a client will be ringing my phone that happens to be a household name corporation. They believe I'm a man in a suit in a office. Oh the facade. It really doesn't matter though because the work we do is so solid I might as well be a man in a suit sitting in an office.  I can't reveal too many details about what we do because I can't have this post being linked to my company though I will tell you we are in the Marketing/Advertising industry. We bring exposure to large brands on the internet. For example, let's say Pepsi wants to grow their brand online, they would call my company. That's as far as I can say. How the fuck did I end up in this position? The million dollar question... It all began when I was a nerdy teenager with no friends in high school. I was drawn to the computer because it fascinated me. I used to spend hours online between the ages of 13-17. I always wanted to get girls and I figured if I had a Mercedes-Benz that I would be able to get the girl of my dreams (this was before I discovered RSD.) In turn, since I spent so much time on the internet, I decided I might as well make some money doing it. In the days of being 15 and 16 I spent my online time devoted to gambling and poker. Fail. When I hit the age of 17 I started to try real ways to make money. My first ploy was drop shipping items on eBay. I did pretty decently but overall it was a fail. 2 more years passed by of failing over and over again. When I say failing over and over again I really mean it. Me and my business partner would start new websites every month hoping to bank big and we would just keep losing money. When I was 19 we started our Marketing/Advertising firm. It's been 2 years since that point and we are well into six figures of revenue. Notes about making money online. There is a ton of confusion at the notion of "making money online." Let me tell it to you straight. Making money online can get a bad name because of all the scams and get rich quick schemes that are floating around. Actually making real dollars online is a huge possibility once you do your research. Once you've done thorough research you can weed through bullshit and accept/reject the ideas that are going to help you. For those who still aren't convinced... thinking about it this way. We are in a consumer-driven economy, right? People buy products and services to drive the economy forward. How do these products reach consumers? Through advertising. What is the best place for company's like Apple and Microsoft to place their advertisements? Whereever the consumers are. Where are the consumers? They are spending most of their time online - not TV or radio, but the internet. What I'm saying is that since most consumers are spending their time on the medium we call the internet, obviously there is money to be made. I'm not talking thousands or millions. The internet economy itself is in the billions, maybe trillions. You have to know how to weed through the bullshit though. Use Google. Spend time and do research. How the fuck can YOU get in this position? I'm not trying to make it out like it's going to be easy squeezy lemon peasy. Remember I said that we slaved away for 2 years and kept failing. Learning new things, trial and error, lather, rinse, repeat. Do you have the discipline to do that? I think everybody has it in them. What did the 2 years of failing really consist of? Well, the beautiful thing about failing so many times was the lessons that came from the failure. For example, we started a few blogs that failed. Most people would be like "awww poop." On the other hand, I was excited that I now knew how to make blogs and customize them, despite the fact that it failed to make money. Making blogs was added to my repertoire of entrepreneurial skills. Get it? Reframe the failures as lessons. Pretty much the same as picking up women. The fastest way to get into this position? Google. When you want to learn some shit - Google it. In the last 4 years of Internet Entrepreneurship certain things came up... "Gee, I need to register a website and get it hosted... how do I do that?" Google it. "Darn, now I need to get this site designed and looking good... how?" Google it. "I need to get this site ranking well on Google so people will find it... how's that get done?" Google it. "I need to bring in more customers through pay-per-click advertising... how the fuck am I gonna do that? Google it. Get the idea? Anything you need to know can be found through the search engine. Whatever you need to know next can be Googled. I'm not here to be like; Step 1: Do this Step 2: Do that Step 3: WATCH THE MONEY PILE IN. I'm not here to present a money making scheme. I'm here to provide you with the inspiration and guidance that you probably can live free of a cubicle that keeps you entrapped for 40 hours a week. Your first thought might be "but I don't have any ideas on what kind of business to start... who knows what the fuck is gonna work and make money?" This is a very fair question to ask. There is no "official" answer here but I can give you my experience. Like I said before, we must have tried 10-15 different ideas when we kept failing for 2 years. Out of those 10-15 ideas, I would say 80% of them were "canned" ideas. A "canned" idea is a way to make money that has already been established. For example - affiliate marketing. You can find plenty of resources to give you a canned affiliate marketing setup. These markets tend to be saturated and you are unlikely to make money... so why the fuck even bother? Well, you gain experience on how to do certain things. Then you can use that knowledge on your next idea. The other 20% of the ideas were "creative" ideas. Ideas that hadn't really been done before by anyone and we just decided to try. The "creative" ideas are the ones that are harder to think of. After you have done 3-4 "canned" ideas you are likely to start coming up with "creative" ideas. I have to give credit to my business partner who tends to be ingenious with the "creative" ideas. Our current marketing firm was all his idea. Starting a business is easy as fuck in the grand scheme of things. This summer I helped my sister launch a wedding planning company. At first - she was like - "wtf, there's no way I can start/manage a business." What's the problem with her mentality here? She is looking at it from the larger picture which makes it daunting. Incorrect thinking: "I have to start a business. That sounds daunting and hard." Correct thinking: "I have to start a business. What is step 1? Done. Now what's step 2?" I took her through the steps when we launched the company... Step 1: Think of a name for the company and register a domain name Step 2: Hire a designer to design the website Step 3: Once the website is designed, post advertisements. Phone calls of interested prospects started coming after Step 3. She's now making money with the company. As you can see, that was easy as fuck wasn't it? The problem is people think of starting a business as some huge mystical endeavor. Not really. Now I'm not trying to downplay the amount of work that goes in. Obviously Steps 1-3 require hours worth of work and research if you're new to them. You have to be willing to put in that time. Conclusion I couldn't sleep all night so I decided to write this thread for you guys. Hopefully it will serve as inspiration, food for thought, or whatever. I'm not here to boast or brag, I could give a fuck less about what people are thinking about my screenname on the internets. There is no "truth" in this post. These are just my experiences and viewpoints. I'm not here to argue any of these points, I just want to offer a fresh perspective. I want to point out that I discovered RSD 1 month before our marketing firm was launched. Is there a correlation? I watched the Blueprint in September/October of 2008 and the company was launched in November. I have to say RSD played a big part in the success of my company and Owen/Papa/Jeffy's workaholic attitude has been an inspiration to me.  The point is, I'm 21 years old, I'm making uber money, and I think you can do it too. I understand people may flood me with PMs after this thread but I would prefer you just post a reply and ask your question so everybody can see it. Good luck and keep riding the wave.
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reborn09

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Some true gold in here, especially the part about consumers. Great stuff. I have a product which could go nuts with a bit of a push. You interested in a JV?
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Colours

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reborn09 wrote:
Some true gold in here, especially the part about consumers. Great stuff. I have a product which could go nuts with a bit of a push. You interested in a JV?
Appreciate the words. Would love to hear about the product if you want to PM me about it
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Awesome man.

This halloween i turned 18 and in january 2011 i´ll start to work on my financial life.

I also won´t go to college, because i think it´s not essential for me.

I don´t know anything about making money online... My goal is to be financially independent. I want to make some money, move to america or somewhere to work on my social skills/pickup.

How should i start? With SEO? Anymore tips for newbies?

Thanks

ChinaBoy
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Nice post. Thanks.
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Value post indeed. Thanks a lot
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Colours

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ChinaBoy wrote:
Awesome man.

This halloween i turned 18 and in january 2011 i´ll start to work on my financial life.

I also won´t go to college, because i think it´s not essential for me.

I don´t know anything about making money online... My goal is to be financially independent. I want to make some money, move to america or somewhere to work on my social skills/pickup.

How should i start? With SEO? Anymore tips for newbies?

Thanks

ChinaBoy
Yeah man it's good to start early 18 is the perfect age. If you really want to get started I would follow the advice of trying a few "canned" schemes to make money that will provide you with experience. Do a few hours of research on 'affiliate marketing' and you'll find plenty of canned ideas that you can try. Like I said in the OP the market can be saturated which makes it difficult to make actual money, but the point of trying the canned idea is to gain experience. If you're willing to fail and keep working at it success will come..
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Awesome post, actually I am in a similar position as you were a few years ago. I am actually doing the research for my biz now. The only thing is mine has higher startup costs since the product is a physical product and not in cyberspace, mainly because I don't really like cpus and have a hard time creating ideas for them.

Anyway point being, should I just wing a business even if I will be sinking a shit ton of $$ in. Because to be honest I probably only have enough $ for one shot. I have even tryed to decrease initial costs in my calculations, but either way there is a minimum amount I can invest if it is going to be worth going for. Like you through the years I have tried to start businesses some legit some not so much and they have all failed for the most part in either planning, execution or whatever.

I mean the only thing I could think of doing is starting a business that has low initial costs for practice and then moving into the arena that my good ideas are in. The only thing is the low startup cost area is primarily on the web, and that is not for me, I know because I have tried.

Advice? Should I go for it or wait till I'm older/outta school?
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Thanks a lot.

Where did you get your money from when you started (ie investment) ? 
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 Good stuff
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