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October 17th, 2017
Making money: Would you take business advice from Eban Pagan?
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#11

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Brad- wrote:
I would recommend anything Eben Pagan has done in the last couple of years.

Wakeup productive
Self made wealth
Altitude
Ignition

All have had a significant impact on my life.
Ditto. Eben is legit. Along with these you should get Tony Robbin's The New Money Masters program where he does a 2 hour interview with Eben, Frank Kern and a few other guys. So much value there.

If you want to get a feel for Eben just youtube around and you'll find a lot of segments and snippets from his programs


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Deft

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Sure, buuut no one else think that this guy cant close for shit?.

Pagan be fuckin da hoes!
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Eben makes absolute bank with doubleyourdating, and he has over 100 employees now.

Guy is legit.
reborn09 wrote:
I've never bought anything from David DeAnushole and I don't know anyone who has.

He definitely would have banked from the sucker IM crowd, but $32 mill a year from his pick up shit...give me a fucking break.
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Wait, Eban=David D? wtf

Anyways...

The closest thing to RSD bootcamp for business I've been able to find is Ramit Sethi's Earn1K coaching program.  From what I can gather reading between the lines, he seems to be pals with at least one of the RSD instructors.  He clearly thinks RSD style.
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Drama wrote:

reborn09 wrote:
I've never bought anything from David DeAnushole and I don't know anyone who has.

He definitely would have banked from the sucker IM crowd, but $32 mill a year from his pick up shit...give me a fucking break.
I believe the majority of his income is from his markting products.
20 million a year from Dating and 5 million from Business products, paraphrased from his aforementioned interview with Tony Robbins.

This is accomplished with almost an entire staff of virtual employees.
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ExtraordinaryDump wrote:

Don't be a hater, Eban made his millions well earned.

If you had any idea how much time and effort I'd put into IM and how close I was to 30k+ a month 100% passively, you'd be a bit cynical as well. The guy is a poster child for the word "average."

He was brother Eben back in the day with old RJ. On one audio I can recall, RJ chastises him for reframing girls over and over. Eben is all "but it's fun."

Don't care for him or any of the other IM gurus personally. Guys like Dan Kennedy, etc, are legit. but the uneducated IMers who rehash concepts and dumb them down for the masses are not. I've looked at a lot of the big hyped up programs over the years and have never thought any lived up to the hype and sales page claims. Seems someone pays money for all this shit -- I guess it's people who don't know what are.

But it highlights success is all about the marketing. You can have the worst products, worst reputation, worst customer service, etc, etc, but if you market it right, you'll make money.

Actually, this reminds me. I have a domain, gurufail.com. If anyone has funny/negative stories about IM products, please let me know.
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#18

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Eben stuff is solid. Period. He may overprice it and even says the obvious. The elusive obvious (read that imagining David D voice)

But It has lots of value.

You may also check a guy called Frank Kern. He studied NLP and great marketers like Dan Kennedy and applied it brillantely... very few do what he can do.
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#19

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 I haven't posted here before but I felt I had to for this post.

Arguing about which business materials to read and study is useless.  If you're looking for material that will tell you exactly how to make a business and make money you're wasting your time.  Especially because 95% of the people who tell you how to make a business are in the business of telling other people how to start businesses.  Why not spend your time actually working on your business.  If you want to make an internet business you could learn how to make a website for free online within a week.  If you want to make a retail company you could get hold of suppliers, find a location to lease, check advertising costs, contact potential employees and investors within the week.  You could have a business plan written up by the end of the month.

The key to starting a business is to DO IT.  Read the book after you've started to DO IT.  The only way you'll really learn about business is actually trying to make it happen.  If you look at any successful business person they didn't learn how to make their business successful out of a book.

Rather than look into any more of these materials I suggest you create a business plan if you haven't already.  Even if you're not sure what you have is a good idea, just write it and better ideas will come to you.  Not sure how to write a business plan?  Well just think, if someone was asking me to give them all my money to start a business what would I want to see?  That's all it is.  Now go fucking do it!

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supasmooth wrote:
 I haven't posted here before but I felt I had to for this post.

Arguing about which business materials to read and study is useless.  If you're looking for material that will tell you exactly how to make a business and make money you're wasting your time.  Especially because 95% of the people who tell you how to make a business are in the business of telling other people how to start businesses.  Why not spend your time actually working on your business.  If you want to make an internet business you could learn how to make a website for free online within a week.  If you want to make a retail company you could get hold of suppliers, find a location to lease, check advertising costs, contact potential employees and investors within the week.  You could have a business plan written up by the end of the month.

The key to starting a business is to DO IT.  Read the book after you've started to DO IT.  The only way you'll really learn about business is actually trying to make it happen.  If you look at any successful business person they didn't learn how to make their business successful out of a book.

Rather than look into any more of these materials I suggest you create a business plan if you haven't already.  Even if you're not sure what you have is a good idea, just write it and better ideas will come to you.  Not sure how to write a business plan?  Well just think, if someone was asking me to give them all my money to start a business what would I want to see?  That's all it is.  Now go fucking do it!

Cheers 
ZOMG, best post in this thread. THANK YOU! This is the spirit I need.

(Btw, I think Eban Pagan is a genious. He doesn't do bootcamps. never went to clubs and makes more money than RSD lol)
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