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bump doods i know some1 wants to talk bout this sheeet
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I rather die enormous than live dormant
If this is what I have to live for, then im gonna take the chance to get more, it doesn't matter what happens to me
If this is what I have to live for, then im gonna take the chance to get more, it doesn't matter what happens to me
my question is, can you get rid of AA to a degree, by mentally imagining yourself in interactions with girls
this sounds like im a chode, avoiding rejection, and thats somewhat true
interested to hear what you guys have to say
situation in your head so real that you actually start to feel some anxiety.
If you don't start feeling somewhat anxious when you do the visualization,
then it doesn't count as exposure, and your anxiety will stay the same.
Feel the anxiety (i.e. BE SOMEWHAT UNCOMFORTABLE) while doing
this and stay in the situation mentally for long enough for your anxiety
levels to drop noticeably.
It's like Ozzie's "2 minute rule", but applied to visualization.
It is a valid method of exposure, but only when done correctly, and it's
much less effective than exposure to real life situations.
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BTW I've never tried this myself. Personally I think a better solution (much
funner and less time consuming) is to just go out and not take the rejections
personally.
People reject some part of your behaviour usually, not "you" as a person.
They're simply reacting to the info you subcommunicate about yourself
and judging it through the filters of their instincts and conditioning.
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Try it.
I didn't find it all that useful, maybe you will, why the hell are you asking us? First hand experience.
I didn't find it all that useful, maybe you will, why the hell are you asking us? First hand experience.
Re: thinking about shooting baskets.
There was some study where people were not allowed to exercise. One group was to think about exercising, the other group was not allowed to. But neither group was allowed to actually exercise. After some time period, the group that thought about exercising had lost less strength than the other group, despite the fact that neither group actually did any exercise.
Thinking about doing something fires the same neurons as actually doing it, which results in neurological efficiency. It's why telling an athelete to visualize successfully doing (whatever sport) actually helps.
Before someone misunderstands all of this, it doesn't mean you don't need to actually do stuff; it just means that visualization is a powerful neurological technique with quantifiable results.
There was some study where people were not allowed to exercise. One group was to think about exercising, the other group was not allowed to. But neither group was allowed to actually exercise. After some time period, the group that thought about exercising had lost less strength than the other group, despite the fact that neither group actually did any exercise.
Thinking about doing something fires the same neurons as actually doing it, which results in neurological efficiency. It's why telling an athelete to visualize successfully doing (whatever sport) actually helps.
Before someone misunderstands all of this, it doesn't mean you don't need to actually do stuff; it just means that visualization is a powerful neurological technique with quantifiable results.
BTW I've never tried this myself. Personally I think a better solution (much
funner and less time consuming) is to just go out and not take the rejections
personally.
People reject some part of your behaviour usually, not "you" as a person.
They're simply reacting to the info you subcommunicate about yourself
and judging it through the filters of their instincts and conditioning.
I love this one.
This playa is so $$$.
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The degenerate formerly known as Anus and Dick Cheney's Ripe Genitals.
Sales Manager: You have no previous sales experience, I don't think you can handle rejection.
BonoboTimes: Your right, I don't. However, I've been fucking models since I was 17. I've dealt with being called ugly, stupid, gay, creep, asshole, and a bunch of other shit. Been told to go away, don't talk to me, go fuck yourself, and I'm not interested by over three thousand women and groups of people. I can handle rejection better than anyone on this lot if not city. Not only that, I never leave. I will follow the customer across the fucking street if I have to. I simply do not give a fuck. I close.
Evil Stifler: "My internal cheerleaders are on my team, bro. They're like, GO, GO, GO, GO!"
Eckhart Tolle: "Adam and Eve saw that they were naked, and they became afraid."
TheFADER: "The club is always a place I can count on to get complete peace and quiet while studying my math."
Bonah Jamz 2010~
Sales Manager: You have no previous sales experience, I don't think you can handle rejection.
BonoboTimes: Your right, I don't. However, I've been fucking models since I was 17. I've dealt with being called ugly, stupid, gay, creep, asshole, and a bunch of other shit. Been told to go away, don't talk to me, go fuck yourself, and I'm not interested by over three thousand women and groups of people. I can handle rejection better than anyone on this lot if not city. Not only that, I never leave. I will follow the customer across the fucking street if I have to. I simply do not give a fuck. I close.
Evil Stifler: "My internal cheerleaders are on my team, bro. They're like, GO, GO, GO, GO!"
Eckhart Tolle: "Adam and Eve saw that they were naked, and they became afraid."
TheFADER: "The club is always a place I can count on to get complete peace and quiet while studying my math."
Bonah Jamz 2010~
And even if "you as a person" get rejected in some situation so what? You aren't meant for everyone.
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Jeffy Bootcamp Alumnus Oct 30-Nov 1, 2009
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
yes. The visualization absolutely works.
However, there's a difference between 'wishful thinking' and 'creative imagination.' Wishful thinking has no certainty behind it, no faith. When you use your creative imigination you are employing your faith and your 'certainty muscle.' This creates a shift in your subconscious mind because your subconscious doesn't know the difference between reality and imigination.
Here's a few specifics from my life on how this works:
I started to imagine myself as being ripped, and I got ripped. This wasn't some 'magic' shit that happened. My self image changed from me being 'a chunky dude' to me being a 'lean elite athlete', and therefore my AUTO DECISION MAKING changed. In other words, I found myself seeking out new information and making new decisions and taking new actions on 'auto pilot.'
Another example is I started to proactively imagine Jiu Jitsu and it took my game to a whole new level. I literally BLEW UP in my skill level in a very short period of time. I would/still do use this technique everyday after class. I imagine what we just learned and embed it into my mind that night. While everyone else is stuck 'kind of' learning shit, I'm mastering techniques on the fly because I'm harnessing the power what Maltz calls the 'success mechanism.' Beyond just imagining moves on the mat, I started to see myself as an ELITE jiu jitsu athlete, rather than a 'student.' My self image changed, and my skill level skyrocketed.
If people think this doesn't work, they're freaking RI-TARDS, and have never given it any FAITH and employed certainty. Hope this helps.
However, there's a difference between 'wishful thinking' and 'creative imagination.' Wishful thinking has no certainty behind it, no faith. When you use your creative imigination you are employing your faith and your 'certainty muscle.' This creates a shift in your subconscious mind because your subconscious doesn't know the difference between reality and imigination.
Here's a few specifics from my life on how this works:
I started to imagine myself as being ripped, and I got ripped. This wasn't some 'magic' shit that happened. My self image changed from me being 'a chunky dude' to me being a 'lean elite athlete', and therefore my AUTO DECISION MAKING changed. In other words, I found myself seeking out new information and making new decisions and taking new actions on 'auto pilot.'
Another example is I started to proactively imagine Jiu Jitsu and it took my game to a whole new level. I literally BLEW UP in my skill level in a very short period of time. I would/still do use this technique everyday after class. I imagine what we just learned and embed it into my mind that night. While everyone else is stuck 'kind of' learning shit, I'm mastering techniques on the fly because I'm harnessing the power what Maltz calls the 'success mechanism.' Beyond just imagining moves on the mat, I started to see myself as an ELITE jiu jitsu athlete, rather than a 'student.' My self image changed, and my skill level skyrocketed.
If people think this doesn't work, they're freaking RI-TARDS, and have never given it any FAITH and employed certainty. Hope this helps.
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Check out the anticipated responses section on The Blueprint DeCoded, it will give you a lot of hints.
Which DVD is this on? Do you recall? 
Is the "New Psycho Cybernetics" better than "Psycho Cybernetics?"
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Secret to life is INTENT + FREEDOM FROM OUTCOME- Tyler
[='Times New Roman']
I can boil almost any sticking point down to a failure to lead. Whether it be physically, verbally, sexually, emotionally, the root cause is always the same.
This happens in the bedroom too. [/]You have to LEAD the woman. Always be leading - [='Comic Sans MS']Brad[/]
When you lead, you are interacting with her like a man interacts with a woman. Not a friend to friend- Tyler Abbreviated
Masculine Polarity= Be a Fucking man, Talk to her like a man talks to a woman, and treat her like a man treats a woman. Men act, women react.
I don't give a fuck= I'm INDIFFERENT to your little bitch antics
Be Positive, Be a man of action, and Be Present- Alex
I am Enough- Alex
[='Times New Roman']
I can boil almost any sticking point down to a failure to lead. Whether it be physically, verbally, sexually, emotionally, the root cause is always the same.
This happens in the bedroom too. [/]You have to LEAD the woman. Always be leading - [='Comic Sans MS']Brad[/]
When you lead, you are interacting with her like a man interacts with a woman. Not a friend to friend- Tyler Abbreviated
Masculine Polarity= Be a Fucking man, Talk to her like a man talks to a woman, and treat her like a man treats a woman. Men act, women react.
I don't give a fuck= I'm INDIFFERENT to your little bitch antics
Be Positive, Be a man of action, and Be Present- Alex
I am Enough- Alex
Is the "New Psycho Cybernetics" better than "Psycho Cybernetics?"
Its pretty mucht the same shit, but with updated facts that pertain to today's society. Get the new one.
iWILLgetHB10
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but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn this book is good
my question is how beneficial are the "creating a mental picture of what you want" excercises do they actually work
i think they do, havent tried them yet
in the book the author describes a particuclar situation where 2 groups made basketball free throws
group 1 practiced shooting for 20 days or something, shooting the actuall ball
and group 2 just pictured themselves shooting the ball into the basket
group 1 only improve 1% more in their shots than group 2
the brain is very sophistacated, idk how many people here have had "wet dreams"
but feels liek you are actually fucking the girl, or doing whatever is going on in the dream, and it feels like its actually happening in reality
infact Maltz says that BRUTE EFFORT isnt going to solve your problems, because your self-image (of a chode) will not change untill your being believes that it is somethign else, or
realizes that that self-image is false
im starting to feel that
my question is, can you get rid of AA to a degree, by mentally imagining yourself in interactions with girls
this sounds like im a chode, avoiding rejection, and thats somewhat true
interested to hear what you guys have to say
If this is what I have to live for, then im gonna take the chance to get more, it doesn't matter what happens to me