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LethalLex

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That was a cool post a couple up. One thing that stood out for me was how there are so many paradoxes in all this. I keep seeing them everywhere. As soon as I think 'Ok this is how it works", I'll do the exact opposite and it will really work.

One of the biggest examples of this is something you also touched on - that pulling is not about doing some crazy-ninja-superhero shit, but often just sitting back, being real and relating to the girl. I kinda had it in my head that it didn't count if you didn't throw the girl over your shoulder and carry her off into the night, lol.
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^ya man, the paradoxes in this just keep popping up.  My most recent one, that I'm about to write about is this:  I'm in a new city for a couple days and I really want to be able to fuck a new girl in a new city; however, to be able to fuck a new girl in a new city, I have to have freedom from outcome. 

Friday

Start out the night with some of Xeofreestyle's homies.  They're all cool dudes who are into rsd.  This shit is so cool.  Tyler really is starting an army.  Anyway.... some of the guys do a little prepartying, then we head out to the same bar as thursday night. 

We walk in, and I see my first set.  3 girls at a table.  It's fucking freezing out here, so I go up to them while rubbing my hands together trying to get them warm.  I tell them about how friction creates heat.  One of them takes my left hand and warms it up for me, while the other one takes my right hand and warms it up.  The third one in the middle says she feels left out.  I thrust my hips towards her, and say, you can have this one.  They all laugh.  It's a funny set.  These girls....  One of them is fit like a motherfucker.  She tells me she's like the state champion wrestler or some shit.  Cool cool.  I'm not feeling them after 10 minutes or so, so I bounce off to find the homies.

They're posted up at a table right next to me.  This is when I look around and realize it's dead.  There's hardly any people in this venue.  We bullshit around a bit.  Then go out to see what we can find.

I open a 3 set and isolate the hottie.  Then some dude pulls her away.  I try to block her way out, but he goes on the other side.  In retrospect, I should have been full gangster (again)  and talked to the dude.  Instead I just tried to ignore him out of my reality, and it didn't work.  BE GANGSTER!  I don't think I need to post the lion video up again, but the point remains.  Be like him.

actually, why not?



I see one of the dudes in set with 2 girls.  I go up to wing him, and as soon as I get there, he blows out.  Oh well.  I take over the two set.  One's a cute girl, named boobs, the other is her anti social friend.  Anti social friend doesn't say shit the whole time, but at least she doesn't steal my girl away.  This one hooks really really hard.  We talk about pickup lines, and she asks me what mine would be.  If you've ever scene the jeffy santacon with evil stifler video, there's one scene where evil stifler yells down some girl in the street in his pimp voice, hey little red girl.  I like to use that voice sometimes, and this is the perfect time.  I go full embrace, hey girl like your face like your shirt.  go for the makeout.  get a kiss on the lips.  step back a bit and laugh about it.  she loves it.  anyway, the homies were talking about bouncing to a new better venue, so i get her digits and go to find them.  



I look around, but I don't see them anywhere.  Shoot one of them a text, but no response.  Looks like I'm rolling solo from this point on.  The guys were telling me about some club that sounds like a similar crowd to one of the lounges back home.

I walk over there in the freezing ass cold with no jacket (oops), and see a decent sized line.  It doesn't seem too bad though....  I stand in this unmoving line for about two minutes when these 3 punjabi indian girls come up behind me.  Some of these indian girls can be really really hot to me.  These ones fell into that category.  HOT!  I talk them up, but it comes out more friend to friend I guess.  Maybe I don't feel comfortable going beast mode on girls outside of a club.  That's kind of a fucked up sticking point I should work on.  To digress.  Writing this shit out is so helpful, I never would have had that realization if I hadn't written this FR.  

So we're in line.  10 minutes goes by. 20.  30.  Finally we get to the front and the doorman only wants to let the girls in.  They make him let me in with them.  He's our friend.  Yay.  I'm their friend.  At least it gets me in!

I get in and realize maybe it was a mistake switching venues.  My state is flatlined.  Oh well, I'm not going to chode this one out.  I want to get laid goddamnit!  I go through the process of doing awkward out of state opens and blowing out.  Some little pushes me really hard.  This fucks with me for a minute, then I let it go.

The first one that hooks is a cute blonde girl.  maybe a 7.  I go in hard.  Spit some game.  make out.  Then her friend pulls her away.  My state is on the rebound.

Another one hooks hard.  Brunette 7 with ze superboobz (tm Paris).  Make out.  Go outside to smoke a cigarette.  Spend the next 30 minutes or so with her.  Her friend is there too, but she's cool.  They're going to a friends house to play beer pong afterwards.  I realize this is the one for tonight.  We go back inside, and all of a sudden her attitude does  a total 180.  She's very serious, and says, Someone told me you just want to fuck me. I don't have sex with people I just met.  I'm a good girl.  That's a pretty hard core shit test.  I say something to the effect of I would fuck her, but I wouldn't want her to do anything she's uncomfortable with.  Then I start thinking, fuck, maybe she's serious.  I want to get laid.  So, I bounce off to find a new one.

There's about 10 more minutes left in the night.

I fInd two blondes.  Try to establish some sort of after party.  They want to do something, but they don't know, and neither do I.  Could have probably pulled these ones with a good wing man and a little more knowledge of the city.

I have a little textversation with boobs.
Afterparty!
-Adjunkie
I already went home :(
What's ur adde?
Sorry man Im going to bed gotta work in the morning
Maybe see ya out tomorrow.  Hope you had a fun night ;]
Yeah maybe :)

Being out here is so good for my game.  It forces me to burn shit to the ground.  I normally wouldn't have asked for her address, but it was probably the right thing to do.  Although I could have maybe been more playful about it.

Run back into superboobz.  Talk some more.  At that point in time, I had mentally disqualified her.  That was my mistake.  I should have just agreed.  Ok no sex.  Then hung out to see what would actually happen...

Anyway, was a pretty solid night.  As always, focus on process, not events.  This shit is making me pimp.  Actually, I am a pimp because I'm doing this shit. 
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Calgary sounds like fun. You've inspired me to visit it one day. And to try OKC again. And to act like a lion, lol
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If you check out calgary, go for the stampede- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary_Stampede

glad to hear this is inspiring you... haha  almost strange to hear actually... in my head, it's like, i'm not really doing that good.... maybe I am?  maybe I just need to keep reframing everything as I am the man.  

Saturday

Continue the textervastion with boobs during the day, was memorable enough to post-
(picture of me) Look at this cool ass place I found
lol, welcome to canada haha
you canadians aren't as bad as they say ;)
lol im pretty sure we r
just a bunch of eh holes
hahah yeah basically :P
I'm going to (club) with my friends tonight.  you're welcome to join us if you want
that would be fun :( but my partner in crime already made plans with other people so I have no one to go with, plus im so broke, been going out all week!
My bank accounts really hurting lol
hello! u can go with me dork.  be adventurous tonight! (plus I have an extra vip pass to get in fo free!)
lol tru that! i'm adventurous all the time haha u caught me on the wrong weeks :/ lol
suit ur self ya eh hole :p
lol shut up! I'll se what I can do!! probs not much but lol
You're done in this town! I'm gonna tell everyone what an eh hole u r. hahahaha
Hahahaha bite me!!
If you come out I just might.  righ on ur neck.  but not too hard.  just right ;]
haha oh so tempting
just tell your friend that you have an old friend in town who you haven't seen in a long time.
She's already out :( I had to work so I couldn't go with her!!
I'll give you a ride.  Where u livin at?
I live with my mom :/ she wont like that!! I might meet up later though.  still figuring shit out.
Right on. Let me know cutie.
:)
So I'm coming :)
cool. c u soon
yup yup

fuck that was longer than I remembered...

anyway.  I commenced the beasting, thinking I had a limited time before she got there.  so I beasted and beasted and beasted.  she never showed up.  i do feel like it was some solid text game though, seeing as how i had hung out with her for all of 2 minutes the night before.

trying to remember the rest of the night, but having a hard time.  i opened a lot of sets. 

here's a good one.  something like a 5 set.  get isolation with the hot one i like.  the group is right there still, but we have our own little bubble of love.  I bounce after a little while.  then see her in the dance pit.  grind on her for a bit.  then bounce.  see her in there later and get kind of freaky on her.  she's totally into it, but I'm not pushing it too hard because I'm experimenting with this alex game method thing that I'll post after this.  i go to screen for logistics and find they're impossible.  was fun hanging out with her though..

another pullable set was these two girls.  one's 18 and the other's 19.  I feel like they would have been very pullable if it were 2 dudes out there.  xeofreestyle has to take off early, and the other dude was having kind of a shitty night. anyway, this set went like all the other good ones in this relatively small venue:  I'd see them, have some fun, then bounce out, then see them again, etc, etc.  they always remembered my name and shit, but it seemed like it was impossible to pull them both by myself.

anyway, fun night.  awesome trip.  i learned a lot, and my game has def changed some.  I saw this alex video about over escalating in the club versus being physical just enough to establish a physical vibe between you and the girl and let her know that you can escalate when you need to.  from there just be a chill fun guy until you pull and you're in a place where you can escalate all the way.  

The video resonated with me so much because I've had so many experiences where I've escalated almost all the way in the club; like if there was a bed in there, we would have been fucking.  but, since it's not really possible (aside from bathroom/alley pulls), the interaction fizzled out. 

I'm going to be playing around with these ideas for awhile to see if it works better than what i've been doing.  seems like it could be the maturation of my game.  maybe the next step upward.

here's the video, and I'll post my notes from it afterwards.



-Focus less on academia of game and more on taking action and letting the transformation and growth take care of itself

-Physical rapport
     -Misconception
         -you have to be caveman escalation monster to get girls (partially true)
     -you need to communicate to the girl that you are enough
         -you have a positive easy going vibe
         -youre having fun
         -you’re an alpha male and you do things on your own terms
            -but you have to have an empathy for the situation you’re in and the girls you’re interacting with
     -Girls want to be aroused
         -arousal translates to attraction
         -going caveman will generate massive attraction
             -but by going too hard too soon, it’s like blowing your interaction load too early
                 -Then the interaction fizzles out
                     -then she knows you just want to fuck her
                     -you could make her feel uncomfortable
     -adoption frame
         -making them feel comfortable with you
         -physical rapport is just establishing physical comfort with each other
         -rather than invading her space, bring her into your space
         -never want to go beyond the physical rapport that the venue could allow for. Ie- you can’t fuck her in the bar.
             -escalating too hard too early is a trap
                 -comes down to trusting yourself or not
                     -the guy can see the girl is reacting to him
     -physical rapport
         -be comfortable in each others space
         -be playful
         -really physically escalate at times but then stop. “no no we’re in a bar”
             -do it in a playful sense rather than an “I’m trying to score a girl frame”
     -create a frame where you’re spending time with a girl in a bar
             -attraction is a function of time
             -by being away from each other, she will begin to percieve you as better than the other guys in the bar
             -it puts her in the frame that this guy is cool, we have chemistry, and she’s going to be thinking why isn’t this guy trying to do more
                 -you don’t do more because you know it’s not the right time to escalate
                     -you trust yourself
                         -creates a vacuum
                         -the girl isn’t sure if you like her
                              -she will then game you
     -the vacuum
         -you do a lot to get the interaction going then the you pull back creating the vacuum
         -the girl will game you
             -you only truly get good results when the girl is gaming you
                 -why isn’t he taking it any further when I know he can
     -a shift in psychology
         -you’ll think oh shit im taking this too slow
             -in the long run you will consummate the interaction much more, have more social abundance, and have girls projecting attraction onto you
    -gameplan
         -decide which girl you’re going to stay with, establish physical rapport, screen the girl
         -give her space to decide that she can like you and she wants to make you like her
         -you want to push and make takeaways
             -give the interaction room to breath
         -the interaction is a team effort
              -not the battle for the chick

-ninjigo chuey
     -beware of the ninjas in japanese


So ya, how cool is it that alex posts that FREE material up??  I only have one night of experimenting with this new shit, but I really see how it could be the next step for me.  It's like a more in depth look at another side to what I was writing about earlier about giving just a little bit of a fuck.

My calgary trip was fucking amazing.  sad to see it come to an end, but can't wait to keep the journey going here in seattle!!  peace out motherfuckers!! much love.
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Monday

Go over to Cat's house and shoot the shit.  He's sick, but still sexy and he knows it.  We talk about life, partying, and all these awesome adventures we're creating for ourselves.

This world can be such a harsh place.  Life can be hard.  We really have no option but to keep going because time is not going to stop.  What we can do is have fun and adventure in the moment.  Play with life.  Have fun with our limited time here.  That's what this shit is all about.  Taking the harsh reality of living, and making it fun.

So, I leave Cat to heal up, and head out to the monday night spot.

I'm feeling fuckin good when I get in.  Open the first hottie I see on the dancefloor.  She grinds on me.  I see her friend looking pissed off that she gets no attention.  I know she's going to pull her friend away, but I simply don't care.  I enjoy the hottie while she's there, then 2 minutes later, her friend pulls her away.

I hit up the next one and the next one and the next one.

I'm feeling really good.  I make note to myself of the improvement I've seen in my game and baseline level of state at this particular venue from the weeks past to now.  This is the best I've performed in this somewhat difficult venue.

My favorite set of the night is this sexy blonde girl.  I go in hard, and she gives her friend the look, and won't even look at me.  I spit some game.  She listens.  I spit some more.  She starts to like it.  I notice out of the corner of my eye, these two big dudes she's with eye fucking the shit out of me.  I don't care.  I keep spitting my game.  She laughs.  Gives me her eye contact.  It was fucking awesome.  Her friend pulled her away in the end, but I didn't give a fuck!  It was all good.

The lesson:  Recently, I've had girls nicely and politely hinting I should leave, or telling me to leave.  After watching some of Alex's videos on his youtube channel, I'm starting to think that these are really just tests to see if I can handle the social pressure.   For example, I opened this five set, and one of the girls came in.  She kind of hinted I should leave, but she had a smile on her face.  I asked, what you really don't like me?  She said, I'm not sure yet.  I guess I failed the test by leaving.  Lesson learned.  Will experiment with staying in, ignoring the test, or saying something like ya, that's great, then continuing on.

Tuesday


I feel like going out.  Usually tuesdays are dead.  But fuck it, I wanna party.  I hit up my boy C, who I met in one of the venues.  He's into "game" in a kind of dorky way, but he's out there doing it, so I like him.  I saw him pull his first girl ever a couple weeks ago. 

Anyway, the game plan is to hit every bar in b town, and then if nothing is good, hit every bar on the hill.  

Start off at the first one, and I see this dude who I talked to in M bar the night before.  He's an older black man who is dressed like a pimp.  I'm not completely sure, but I think he's actually a pimp.  I shoot the shit with him a bit.  Then I go to open my first set of the night.  The first one is always the toughest.  Oh well, it must be done.  I open these three women sitting at a table.  Some funny self amusing shit.  They start talking about work so I tell them that work is overrated.  I just live in my moms basement and come out every night.  One of them tells me I shouldn't tell women I live in my mom's basement.  I tell her I also have girls locked up down there.  They all bust out laughing.  Vibe with these funny business women for awhile, and then decide to hit up the next venue.

Street set.  Brunette. 

Next venue.  Two set.  Turns out to be a 5 set.  I get the hottie's number and then make her waltz with me.

A couple more venues.  A couple more sets.

Last venue of the night, I hear some dude say, "I bought a tatoo gun, and I did this."   HAHAHAHA wtf!?!  I have to go see what it is.  The guy has WHITE TRASH tattooed across his stomach ala Tupac's Thug Life.  Fucking classy.  He thinks it's as funny as I do.  We both laugh our asses off. 
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Wednesday

Day 2 LR.  Met this girl before my trip to calgary.  Texted back and forth with her a little bit the past week.  Talked to her on the phone for about 45 minutes on monday.  Met her out downtown last night.

At first she was held back and kind of hesitant.  I tried kissing her, mainly just to establish that I am a man, and I will take what I want.  She backs away.  Cool.  Laugh about it, and back away myself.  Plowsitivity ftw.  Talk about some philosophy.  Buy her a drink, and tell her she gets the next round.

We bounce to another venue.  She finds one that she wants to go to.  It's a pretty cool place.  A speakeasy.  They mix us up some drinks "sassy".  I drink half of mine and have her drink the rest.  We're getting more playful at this point-  upping the level of physical comfort.

Bounce to the next venue.  I take her to my truck, and we drive over there.  It's the normal thursday night place.  Recently, they started doing wednesday nights.  Apparantly not too many people know about it/ are interested though.  It's dead.  She goes to the bathroom.  I get her another drink.  When she gets out, we do the waltz dance.  I go for the makeout and she's into it.  I stop it really quick though.  Don't want to kill the tension.  She goes back in a couple more times, and sometimes I give her a little, but other times I just pull back and look deeply into her eyes with a sly grin on my face.  I notice my attitude and demeanor change at this point.  I go from being fun playful guy to full on intent, you're about to get fucked guy.  I don't smile as much.  I stay icy.  She tries to shit test me a couple times. You'd be pretty dissapointed if I just told you I wanted to go back to my car and go home after this huh? ::Shrug:: I don't give a fuck.  You can do whatever you want, but that's not what I think you want to do. 

I want to pull her back to my place, but she is worried about her car.  She says she wants to go back to her place, but I can follow her if I want.

Alright ;)  I suppose I can do that.  

Get back to hers.

No LMR, but a lot of enjoying each other and playing with each other. 

We fuck on and off for the next 4 hours.

This girl quite possibly has the highest sex drive of anyone I've ever been with.  She's such a paradox.  She looks like a sweet, innocent, cute little girl; but, she's a fuckin freak in bed.

At somepoint, we're having a conversation about how I picked her up.  Girls like to tell me about that shit for some reason...

She drops some girl insight with the potential to further my game on me.  Would like to know what you guys think about this.  Especially the guys I go out with, who have seen me in action.

What she says is, when we first met up, I was kind of annoying to her.  I came off as loud, obnoxious, and super confident.  I seemed like just a dumb california surfer guy.  (lol).  Then when she stuck around, she realized I'm actually kind of a smart guy, and she became more and more attracted after that.  Her advice was that instead of putting myself 100% out there right off the bat, I should give smaller bits and pieces, and work up to putting myself fully out there.

I'm not entirely sure what that even means.  Maybe nothing.  It could just have to do with Alex's idea that time is your ally.  But maybe there's some truth in there.  I have noticed some of the really cool natural high value guys I've known are not so quick to put themselves out there.  They'll chill back a little more.  Ok.  thinking about it like that, there's definitely something more to that train of thought...  what's your thoughts on it??

Fun fucking night all in all. see what i did thurrrr?
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Last week was getting pretty crazy.  I was out for a bunch of days and nights in a row.  Straight from going out every night in calgary to going out every night in seattle.  The momentum I had going was ridiculous.  Wednesday night, I banged that girl and ended up not getting any sleep.  Thursday, it caught up with me.  I went to take a nap before going out and slept through the whole night.  Then on friday, I got suckered into staying at my friend's bday party.  It was so fucking chode.  I was feeling like such a pimp, if I had gone out, I can only imagine it would have been a really crazy night.  Went skiing saturday.  Hung out all day with my chode friends.  Then went out that night.

Saturday

One of the worst nights I've had in a long time.  I can only attribute it to lack of sleep and hanging out with chodes for several days straight. 

I was opening, but just not on it, and super stifled. 

I can tell my game is shit when it's 1 hour from last call, and Im' still talking to girls about just getting there and warming up.  Every set of the night turns into a warm up set.  None of them go anywhere, except to the bathroom.  It's a downward spiral.  My state drops more, which causes me to become more stifled, which garners me more blowouts, and then the cycle starts again. 

The game plan: Chalk the night up to the process, and remember what a pimp I felt like friday night, and work to get back to that state.

I'm a boss because I stayed through the entire night, opened all night long, and pushed the shit as far as I could even though my state sucked.

I'm gonna head down to the beach for some day game, then out tonight.  Get mah mafukkin pimp hand back.  sheeeit.
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Sorry about last night bud. I didn't know you were working on that until we were making out. Good luck today, let's kill it next weekend :)
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^no worries bro.  if i was in a better headspace i prob woulda been on top of it.  i think what happened with her is that i interpreted the situation the wrong way- through chodevision.  she had a couple of her friends come in and talk to her.  it was her bday after all.  at the time, i thought that her wanting to talk to them rather than me meant that she wasn't into me.  maybe she was or maybe she wasn't, but i should have chilled around, been more patient, and trusted in myself and the process. 

it's crazy how much our social interactions are shaped by our own perceptions of them.

it's only monday, and i cant wait for the weekend!!

Sunday Day Game

I have this badass day game spot right by my house. It's a fucking beach.  All winter it sucked.  But now that the sun is starting to show- holy shit!  It fucking rocks.  hotties everywhere.  it's like its own venue.

for some reason, I had no aa, like I usually do in daygame.  probably just cause it seemed like a regular party venue.  whoooooo

went pretty good

-hey little camera girl (pimp voice).  spit some game.  get her laughing.  notice a HUGE ring on her finger.  laugh about homewreckin her home.  bounce.

-two set.  punk looking girls.  hey girls! blah blah blah.  nice to meet you!

-2 set laying down in the sand.  you know how to enjoy this warm sunny weather!  talk about getting old and having sex anyway.  we all chill and vibe for about 10 minutes before i find out one is married and the other has a boyfriend.  oh well.

-2 set playing in the sand.  one is burying the other.  i love it when the situation just makes opening fuckin easy.  it's a 19 year old and a 13 year old.  the older one is hot.  i sit down with them and vibe it out for 45 minutes or so.  just chillin in the sun, loving life.  she's kinda babysitting the younger one, so i don't get physical.  oh well.  good times with hot girls at the beach.  life is so fucking awesome.

-tying up my dog next to an outdoor table at a restaraunt im about to go into.  tell the girls i'm tying him up next to them.  end up talking to them.  the hot one is like what's your little namemy little name?  i have a big name.  a badass name.  what the fuck is your little name?  Lindsey.  blah blah game game game.  what are you girls getting into tonight. We're going home.  you should come party with us later.   seriously we know how to party.  bye sexy.  i shot her a text when i was done eating but no reply.  i prob shoulda just pulled up a chair and kicked it with them until they left.  i had the feeling i totally could have closed them, but as soon as i was gone, they prob forgot all about me.

This summer is going to be so fucking good.  It's already so fucking good.  Goddamn.  Who ever thought life could be so fucking fun!
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Also had a shitty night this weekend. It's weird how you can just forget how awesome you are! 

Good to see you bounced right back from it though =)

And seeing that daygame stuff makes me think I should be hitting up girls during the day more. It's this weird thing for me how I want to preserve my image during the day where as at night I usually don't care at all. Guess it's just another limitation to blast through.
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