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UtopiaFive

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The reason you didn't ask for her number is that you REALLY wanted to bang her, not get the #s.  Why go for plan b when plan a is right there?
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UtopiaFive

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Yeah if you're in say like Belltown just get her in your car and say you live in downtown like by the SAM, then get the fuck home.  If she says some weird shit just be all "yeah its just here international district".  

when you get home and she says shit be like "oh tihs is blah neighborhood?  cool" and just keep leading.  

honestly it IS a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way...combined with the fact that you ACCEPT society's view of how cool where you live is, etc.  

cuz seriously, I get more ass now living in Glen Park in SF than I used to living in Union Square in NYC.  Yes logistics will get you the flash and/or drunk lays, but even then your logistics don't cause shit...YOU cause shit.  

Not that it wouldn't be a good idea to move closer, just saying if you're not going to do it, you need to change how you think about living in w seattle or wherever.  You probably are like in talk talk talk talk talk talk talk mode, and then she's all liking it and asks you "So where do you live?" and you respond "[Blah Neighborhood] ........... (subcommunication: awaiting response, AKA WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?????????????????)"  The reason you see her look in her face is that she tricked you into moving from cool fun ping ping ping pin gping ping conversation into logical ping pong conversation where she subconsciously sees OH HES LOOKING TO ME FOR A RESPONSE NOW OH NOOOOOO
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2)  I don't live that far away from the scene, but the general perception is that where I live IS FAR AWAY.  So when I try to extract girls back to my location, they're thinking it's a long ways away.  It's basically ten or fifteen minutes from most places, but it requires jumping on the highway.  Maybe it's all in my head, but I swear I can see it in girls reactions when I tell them where I live.  Maybe it's a self fulfilling prophecy or maybe I'm reading too much into their reactions, rather then just being solid and pinging off myself.  One solution might be to not tell them where I live and keep it a mystery while babystepping them on and adventure... which is more adventurous cause she doesn't know where she's going.


and one last thing that just occured to me-

When the end of the night rolls around and it's pull time, I don't think I'm decisive or firm enough.  What I usually try to do is see what her plans are and then try to fit them into my plans.  As a true leader, I need to be shaping what her plans are, i think...

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UtopiaFive

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BTW yeah I get weird responses when I hop on the highway (10 minutes or so like you) and I just say "Yeah I don't give a shit I can turn around and hang out with my friends instead, I just thought we'd hang out 1-1 for a few minutes then get back to the friends, but if you're going to make a big deal of it, lets turn back."  They'll even give some weird responses several times but I literally just fuckin assure them its alright etc.  "Look at the clock its 11:15.  If we get there later than 11:20 you can punch me in the balls, I don't care."  It'll be 11:25 when we get there.  She forgets.  I park midstreet with hazards on, I don't care.  Get in, bang it out, tell her to put her clothes back on.  (Obv these are girls I don't care much about at all, and they been whining about their friends, so I find it funny that when I finally get it in, to say OH YEAH YOUR FRIENDS LETS GO FIND THEM.)  

Its like Jeffy says they're more akin to a child or a dog than a person.  Even with your guy friends, logic won't always work, but just ignoring their negativity/whining and just making them go out can work.  

But even think about how YOU feel when you're out with "normal" people and you start cold approaching.  You're probably semi "I'm ditching the group it feels odd" and yet you do this a LOT.  Think about how the girl feels.  She likes you yet her peer group exerts the gravitatoinal pull...you need your pull to be STRONGER than theirs.  You're like the fuckin sun d00d.  The sun.    
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Thursday!

Get to the spot. Hit hit hit. The first one is so awkward it's funny.  Umm Hi.  how's your night.  [=rgb(255, 0, 255)]good, how's yours.[/][=rgb(245, 222, 179)] [/] i don't know just getting started i guess.  trying to get in the mood. [=rgb(255, 0, 255)]you don't know? [/]derp derp derp[=rgb(255, 0, 255)] nice to meet you![/][=rgb(245, 222, 179)][/]  Warm ups accomplished.  Momentum building.  It's all good yo.

Meet up with Matt281 and brother. Kick it for a minute.

See a cute asian 2 set. Blah blah you’re cute. [=rgb(255, 0, 255)] [/i][/][i][=rgb(255, 0, 255)]So are[/] you she says. I’m like, yep it’s on. Spend the next 2 hours or so leading her around, making out with her, and basically just enjoying each other cause we're both pretty fucking crazy.  Throughout the interaction, I was trying to figure out a fucked up logistical dilemma. She has to drive her friend home to another town 30 minutes away before driving home.  There's a guy with them for the friend, and he's staying in a hotel within walking distance.  I push to get us over there somehow someway.   afterparty!!  but, no the guy has to wake up at 6am for work.  it seemed like he wanted to get with the friend, but didn't know how/have the balls to try.  1am rolls around she's about to bounce.  She takes me into another room for hardcore makeout session.  I pull back, and this makes her mad.  She grabs my face and give me a mouth rape. lol.  I tell her to call me when she's on her way back from the other town.  She had such a tiny little body. Total spinner.  Was fun.

The long set kills my momentum.  So, I have to work back up to it. Wonder around chode style for awhile, then say fuck it. Hit hit hit.  Couple weird ones.  And then...

Right before last call, I spot the sexy I saw last Thursday who I opened and tried to lead, but she didn’t want to come. Dance with her and talk a bit. She’s kind of intimidating to me cause she’s so fuckin hot. I tell her we should be friends in real life. She’s like, so that’s what you call it. I think about handing her my phone to get the digits, but it just doesn’t seem right. Her friends are all standing around us watching, and I don’t want to create an awkward moment, especially cause I’ll most likely be seeing her around… Maybe I’m just making up excuses, but oh well, I did what I thought was best.

One note on that last set, call her sexybitch.  This guy who I've seen out a couple times number closed me earlier in the night.  I was like ok, whatever.  At the end of the night, I was with sexybitch and trying to figure out logistics.  She said she had to drive all her friends home.  They were all standing in a semi-circle around us.  Guess who her friends are?  The guy who number closed me...  haha.  Makes me think I can maybe try to bend the matrix and make this more of a social circle thing.  anyway...  lessons... sticking points... etc..

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Two things I feel like I need to work through:

1)  Being perceived as part of a fun night rather than a person who exists in real life.  A la Julien's moment of realness video.  I'm going to try and call that asian girl.  We'll see how it goes, but it won't surprise me if it's nothing.  That's one thing I've noticed A LOT.  I get a lot of numbers.  I sometimes feel like they were really solid interactions.  We have good conversation, physicality, and probably kiss.  Then when I go to call or text.  It's nothing.  No response.  At bootcamp, Julien drilled into me that I should really nail down the logistics for a day 2- like exact logistics.  Time, place, date, what her schedule is for the next month! Maybe I'll experiment with that for awhile.

2)  I don't live that far away from the scene, but the general perception is that where I live IS FAR AWAY.  So when I try to extract girls back to my location, they're thinking it's a long ways away.  It's basically ten or fifteen minutes from most places, but it requires jumping on the highway.  Maybe it's all in my head, but I swear I can see it in girls reactions when I tell them where I live.  Maybe it's a self fulfilling prophecy or maybe I'm reading too much into their reactions, rather then just being solid and pinging off myself.  One solution might be to not tell them where I live and keep it a mystery while babystepping them on and adventure... which is more adventurous cause she doesn't know where she's going.


and one last thing that just occured to me-

When the end of the night rolls around and it's pull time, I don't think I'm decisive or firm enough.  What I usually try to do is see what her plans are and then try to fit them into my plans.  As a true leader, I need to be shaping what her plans are, i think...

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thecrochunter

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You dudes are kicking ass down there. Matt281, Adjunkie, Cat (prob others i cant recall right now)

Fuck i need a crew to get moving with. Like someone said, your the average of your peer group, yours is pretty hollywood..

Prob is im having a great time keeping this shit on the downlow from anyone. Its a kick knowing im part of this without anyone knowing.

If any of you guys take a trip to BC this winter top shred some pow, you have somewhere to crash.
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UtopiaFive

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I think SexyMachine lives in Seattle too.  

Are you in Vancouver?  TJ- is up there as well.  
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You dudes are kicking ass down there. Matt281, Adjunkie, Cat (prob others i cant recall right now)

Fuck i need a crew to get moving with. Like someone said, your the average of your peer group, yours is pretty hollywood..

Prob is im having a great time keeping this shit on the downlow from anyone. Its a kick knowing im part of this without anyone knowing.

If any of you guys take a trip to BC this winter top shred some pow, you have somewhere to crash.
Peace.
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adjunkie

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@u5-  good shit man.  i actually got the idea that i wasn't leading hard enough while I was walking my dog off leash.  i had walked ahead of him while he took his dump, then i turned around and yelled at him to run, then when he got there i told him to heel.  I was like, this dog does exactly what I say cause i'm the fucking boss.  i act like it, and he follows suit.  i need to be the same when it comes time for pulling. 

ya, i like your ideas about the drive.  it's really not that far.  so who the fuck cares.  if i don't, and communicate that, she shouldn't either.  as long as i exert the gravitational pull of THE SUN!!! 

also sounds like you're pulling in the middle of the night, or whenever you want, rather then trying to wait until the end.  im gonna have to try that.

@croc hunter- we got an awesome crew down here. it helps soo soo much.  last year, i did the same thing as you.  there wasn't really a scene close by, so i went out and pretty much did it on my own.  it'll work if it's all you got, but having friends to go with will help you progress faster and help keep you motivated.  there's been several times i can think of where i was about to puss out, but then got a text from one of the guys and ended up going out and killing it.  what part of bc you in?
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in the okannagan, Big White ski resort to be exact.

the potential here is insane. Problem is there is a huge one itis fuck buddy scene. Get in early and stick to the same lay. Early season is fuckin nuts. Beasting is literally textbook. Mid season is when the good challegenes start. Blowing out mega snow scene cougars, re hashing old lays to see if its possible, plowing down the accomodation rows, nothing really is within any reality. Id love some one to be in the community here. It would be a fucking bomb. And help taking this shit through multiple levels. I appreciate the reply. I have considered a program in WA over the summer. The possibility of an international beaasting crew is on the cards.
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 What the fuck I didn't know there was a Seattle crew... I'm like 20 minutes away from Seattle. Can't hit the clubs or bars though since I'm still underage (19) but I've been doing a lot of daygame. I'll be at hot seat so hope to see you seattle cats down there. And dude drive down to Seattle for the free tour in June. It's like a 2 hour drive. I drive up to vancouver with my bro like 5 times every summer. It's so nice and the girls are hot as fuck  there too. 
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 What the fuck I didn't know there was a Seattle crew... I'm like 20 minutes away from Seattle. Can't hit the clubs or bars though since I'm still underage (19) but I've been doing a lot of daygame. I'll be at hot seat so hope to see you seattle cats down there. And dude drive down to Seattle for the free tour in June. It's like a 2 hour drive. I drive up to vancouver with my bro like 5 times every summer. It's so nice and the girls are hot as fuck  there too. 
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@fury- ill prob be at hotseat bro.  i been wanting to hit up vancouver too.

Friday friday

partyin partyin ya!

The night starts out pretty solid and then dwindles down into a blowout night.

The first set of the night is this two set.  Matt281 wings me.  I open it up with something lame.  Tell them how my night is just getting started.  They're like, how's that going?  Not so good lol.
I thought it would a quick blow out, but instead, Matt281 leaves, and I sit down in the booth with the one that isn't quite as hot (curly).  Apparently the hottest one has a boyfriend or something.  I vibe with curly for ten minutes or so, and then lead her over to the dance floor.  The friend with a boyfriend leaves the bar.  It's just the two of us at this point.  On the dancefloor, she's not too into dancing with me.  I change this by getting up in her face, spinning her around, and making her grind her ass on me.  That's better.  She starts taking her clothes off cause she's getting hot, and she goes back to the booth to put her shit down.  Then (and this is where I think I lost it) I went to get a water.  Should have gotten her back on the dance floor and made out with her.  She starts putting her clothes back on.  She's asking where my friends are.  I lead her around the bar and then say they bounced to this other spot, let's go there.  She comes with me, but when we get outside, she says she's just gonna go home.  Cool, I'll go with youAbsolutely not!  I know how you guys are!  Ya, like this (pull her in for the kiss)  There will be none of that!  hahaha. she walks with me for a few more blocks until it's her turn off, and then we say our goodbyes.

Hook back up with the homies at the next bar, but it sucks, so we bounce back to the first one.

Second set of the night, another two set.  A fucking hot one, and her super friend.  I open them, hook the hot one, she loves me.  I sit down next to her.  The fat friend starts talking shit to me.  I stay in for 10 or 15 minutes with the hottie before the realizes she's getting blown out.  She gets in my face and calls me a several times, and then asks me if she can take the hottie away from me to the bathroom.  I claw the hottie, and yell at the fattie SHE'S MINE YOU CANT HAVE HER GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!  lol.  I think for this to work, you need to first observe that the fat friend isn't overtly aggresive.  Fatty does not like this, and actually puts her head in my claw, so she's coming up in between us, and manages to pull her away.  The hot one is like can you save our table for us, we'll be right backfuck that come find me

The rest of the night consists of a downward spiral of getting blown out over and over.  State flatlines.  1:00am rolls around, and I say fuck it.  Walk back to my truck.  I'm sitting in there about to leave, and I remember Tyler's post about sticking it out til the bitter end.  I'm like NOOO I CAN"T BE A BITCH AND LEAVE.  So, I go back to a bar.  Open a couple more.  Get blown out a couple more times.  And then head back to my truck.  But..... on the way there I'm like NOOOO STICK IT OUT TILL THE BITTER END.  So, I go to another bar.  Open til the end and get blown out til the end.

Saturday

The little asian girl from thursday comes over to my place and cooks me dinner.

It started out talking to her on friday, trying to figure out when I was going to hang out with her.  She had the idea that I would take her out for sushi on saturday night. uhhh no, I have a better idea, you come cook me dinner.  She agrees.

She gets over to my place looking sexy as fuck.  Hotter than I remembered her.  She's like 90lbs and dressed fuckin hawt!  Yes!

She cooks me dinner, then I bring her into my room and show her pictures on my computer.

After a bit, I pull her up, and dance with her for a second.  Make out.  Pick her up.  Carry her over to my bed.  Climb on top of her and start grinding while making out.  Start taking her top off, and she's like nooo, i can't i'm on my period!  I tell her I have a condom and a towel.  haha.  I start rubbing her through her pants, and make out with her more.  I'm hard, so I take it out, and pull her head towards him.  She gives me a 10 second blow job, and then gets up like she's had enough.  It's like 9pm at this point, and I had told her I was heading out to the bars.

Funny, she had arranged to go the same bar I was going to. 

I end up not going out and doing something else instead, but that's not the point of this journal, so.......

I think I should have been more explicitly sexual with her throughout the interaction to get her more warmed up before going for it. 

No big deal.  We've been talking, so I'm pretty sure I'll see her again. 
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