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December 6th, 2016
Jeff's fucked up bootcamp gets me laid in a van
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Shell

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Join Date: 09/28/2010 | Posts: 1

 Hey guys, this is Shell, I'm new to RSD, returning to the PUA community after being inactive for 5 years. I'm 25 now, single, and recently was extremely frustrated with going to a party and getting nowhere with the girls, except for a few flakey seeming phone numbers and rubbing me hardon on them while dancing. This review is going to be rather short, as I'm sure the material taught to me can be read from all the other Jeff reviews on here.

Day 1: Meet with Jeff, Ghandi, and Rob at the hotel in San Francisco (i'm from Seattle, got there on friday September 24th, and have a flight back home on Sunday). They ask me questions, tell me the basics as anyone should: I need to be a fucking man about this, approach, give it my all, etc, otherwise this bootcamp is like throwing away my money: they are just a huge push, not a magic pill to fix my problems. Anyways, after giving me some basics, we goto the van (i'm sure people already know about the van... van) and watch some footage from previous approaches. I'm a little bit nervous, but strong enough to go through the actions without much trouble... just feel like i'm wondering in the dark with only an idea of where to go. Goto the bar/club and get thrown into set after taking a piss.

Girls hook decently, actually very cute girls to me. I'm in my target's face, touching her (i'd even say groping her), just talking, getting stuck here and there. Don't really remember what happens, but I push hard enough until she starts giving me "it's hot in here, I need some personal space" comments. Remember that there are only two options as long as I'm just learning this stuff: either they leave, or I fuck them. Of course, I have a third option: they/dudes get physically pissed off at me, lol, but this is a lesson learned later. Anyways, girls say they are going to leave, don't remember if I got their phone number or not, but know I didn't call. Go back to instructors (oh, by the way, I am wired so they can listen and film me). They seem impressed because I told them I am beginner/intermediate, which honestly, I feel like I am. Sure, I can open, which is a lot more than most people, but that is definetly not even close to where I want to be. 

So where did I want to be? I didn't know, but I just didn't want to feel so shitty after approaching girls and getting rejected. Wasn't interested in getting into a monogamous relationship, since I've been in them since high school. Wanted basically a few girlfriends, maybe like 3-5 that I would see at least once every 2 weeks, but more like once a week each. Currently? I'm in an up and down with 3 girls, one i'd call a girlfriend, one a girlfriend, but not sleeping with, and one a fb that i'm not too interested in and in all reality, probably could fuck her again if I wanted, but it's been awhile since we last did anything, and I'm really just not too crazy about her. Anyways, back to day 1:

I open more sets, a few girls say they have boyfriends. A few I dance with. Most sets go decently well, but only as far as my limited leading gets me. I get a makeout or two. Jeff Rob and Ghandi give me tips, I start learning a bit. It's closing time, I get a few phone numbers (never call them though.. though I think it's possible that one of them I could have fucked if I put in the time... just didnt have time while i was in SF). Go outside, try street game. Punk myself out in a couple sets pretty quick, a bit nervous, go into a set of 3 girls and 2 guys. Hit hard on one of the girls. Basically groping her, trying to kiss her, stealing her, picking her up and pushing her up against a wall across the street. It's fun. I get a txt saying that I need to lead the entire group. They live in Berkley, and I have no idea how to get there... Kind of give up after this cycle of trying to get her to fuck fails for 20 or 30 mins. Go back to the van, get a rundown of what I need to work on... some of the things I remember were:

My pushing is strong, but I lack any pull. Its like I am throwing myself at the girls, but not getting them to come towards me too (on an emotional level I mean). Also, for most of the sets, I was outcome dependent. I cared too much about the set, making them like me. I kept trying to show value, and this is not what I want to do. No, I should bring value simply be being there. Also I need to work on being more aware of the girl's emotional state, and less aware of what I think she, or anyone else is thinking. Probably more, but whatever: onto day 2.


DAY 2: After a long day of doing nothing and being quiet for the most part, I meet with my 3 personal gurus (oh yeah, forgot to mention, I was the only student for this weekend... KICKASS!!) and we go over some of the basic things I need to work on again. Eat, goto the van, talk about verbal game, how to vibe, watch videos (footage from the field), and get an idea of different people's styles. Go out to the first place, a bar with a bunch of ex-frat type guys and girls. Seems like every set is married/engaged/has a boyfriend. In fact, I think only the first set I did had a girl (1 of 3) who didnt have a "I someone else in my life" objection. After my first set goes "ok" for like 20 mins or so, I goto this unattractive girl who is surrounded by a bunch of other people and start talking to her, putting my hands on her, etc. She isn't feeling it, but I am persistent. After maybe a min, a guy starts basically standing in my place, and I ignore him for 10 seconds, then address him. Tell him he is basically standing on me, and I'm not here to talk to him, so back off. Something like "dude, this is weird, can you not come over here to rub against me?" He is basically trying to be protective of this girl. Within 30-60 seconds, he does back off. I keep gaming. A few mins later, a couple huge football looking players, one at a time, start putting their arms on me. I just ignore them and keep talking to the girl. I shake their hands, keep plowing. Then this crazy (bigger than me, but smaller than the football players, by the way, I'm only like 5 foot 7, 150 lbs, football players are like 250 lbs of muscle each, and crazy guy is like 200ish). He starts getting crazy in my face trying to fight me. It shakes me and I back down saying something like "hey man, it's cool, just tell me its your girlfriend (he started shouting this only then) and I'd back off, i'm not here to start trouble". One of the bigger football guys pushes me, and then another guy, who actually seems calm, tells me I need to leave. He seems like the only balanced guy there, and I tell him that yeah I do, and I'm not trying to fight, but I need to get past this guy to get back to my friends, so he blocks the crazy guy and I eject. I'm all shaky.

Keep going into sets after this... my state is much lowered. Sets don't hook as well as the day before. I keep trying to be confident, but it keeps coming out as bold instead and I can tell that I'm fucking scared. Keep opening, sets don't last too long, leave the place and goto a bar. Open a few sets but don't know what to say. I goto the bathroom, remembering what Rob said "Lead from your core... your core is not your heart, it's your dick. You should be getting a hardon within 5 mins by being around this girl". No, my dick was freaking limp, and I was trying to work on getting it hard in the bathroom for a bit, but was way too shaken to be sexual. Came out (after washing my hands) and did maybe one more failed set, then went to a loud dance/grind club. Went set to set, blown out right away. Was not confident, but kept trying to stay in set. I remember I put my arms around these two girls who were talking to this one guy, the guy kept tooling me, breaking me down, but I kept staying in the set. I didnt know what to do, and I just wanted to either kill them (literally) or kill myself. One of the girls started to tell me to leave, and I kept staying, and she started shoving me. Lol, tooled by a girl even. Started complaining, but reluctantly continued to open without any confidence. Made out with one chick who didnt even want to, ejected, came out of the club totally shot. Tried to do some street game, (as the bars were closed then) and failed completely. Remembered: You learn as much from a good night as you do a bad night, and to keep doing sets, because just like bodybuilding, you gotta keep going, even when you want nothing more to do than to give up. This is what gives the most results. 

Go back to the van, debrief a bit... My main thing seemed to be that I need to remember that I am fucking awesome, to be able to convey this without needing to impress. Like, most guys who take the bootcamps, they have really obvious issues, like "just approach!" or "be more physical", but mine was much more subtle and deep. That night, I did not feel like I was awesome. My state was low, broken, and I could not come from my core. Go home, sleep.

Day 3: Today is a street fair for bondage and leather people, and since it is San Francisco, it's basically gay people everywhere, mostly male. But tons of hot girls go there too, so our objective there is to makeout with a girl, and then take out our dick and get a blowjob. Since there are so many guys with their dicks hanging out anyways, no one will say anything. There is another guy who comes with us too, James, a natural who has fucked like 500 girls, and recently, 9 in 1 week (all new girls), and even 5 in one day. He's fucking cool, the living embodiment of someone who doesn't give a shit what others think about him. Even the way he walks is cool. We all go eat, talk a bit, I hear some of his stories, then we drive to the street fair. James gets out and puts blowup donkey between his legs and starts humping girls walking by. It's fucking entertaining, all the while, we're sitting in the van watching dvds, one with Jeff picking up a girl in a park, and one a fair with them making out with girls and pulling out their dicks ,lol. I don't know what is more entertaining, James, or the DVDs. Anyways, after getting all this info, the main thing I remember is that once we leave the van, we're going into beast mode, and all logic goes out the window. Jump out, they point out this girl 20 feet away talking on her cell standing against the wall by herself. I walk over, tell her i'm here to pick her up, show her all my physical escalation moves 1 by 1, kiss her, grab her, pull her back to around the corner, keep trying to makeout, get a few kisses, but she keeps turning her head. She keeps trying to get away. I keep pushing, after 5 mins of tons of fun, I let her go, and we goto the fair. My state is pumped.

Open a set, the 2 girls, the one I go for to me is fucking hot, but she is like one of those cute girls, not one who seems super slutty, which is hot too. Do similar stuff to her, grab her, pick her up, move her, try to get her to buy a drink for me. James had the other girl, eventually they get back together and leave. Open another set with Rob. Similar stuff, we separate them. Kissing, etc, guys walking around with their penis out and leather on everywhere. When the set dies, Rob pulls me aside tells me that I need to step things up. With his girl, he was kissing her, pulled out his dick, told the girl to suck it. Guys slapping his ass, one grabbed his dick, one told the girl that if she didnt do it, someone else would. I told Rob I was afraid to do that cuz my dick was hella small because I was nervous. He told me this story, said his dick was hella small and he had tons of pressure, but did it anyways, because he didnt give a fuck. This inspired me. We were walking, and I told him I was being a chode, and some girl heard this behind us and started talking to us. We told her we're here to fuck chicks. Then I see a girl who is dressed in lingerie, taller than me, looks like a fucking playboy model or pornstar or something. Open her, kiss her, pull out my dick, don't remember. It's fun. I notice everyone looking after the girl leaves. It's funny, We keep going. Both of us try to kiss the girl following us, but she rejects "im a lesbian" which we can buy, but shes not hot, so dont care. Rob talks to a girl, and I talk to another. Somehow lose him. Keep going, open more, see Jeff, James, and Ghandi. They keep telling me girls to open. I keep opening. Get a hot blonde's phone number (she tells me she hangs out at the playboy manson... fucking hot). Meet another hot blonde who is getting photos taken of her with different guys. Steal her from the guys, we're having fun. Try to kiss her multiple times. She needs to go back to work, I keep trying to kiss, flirt, we're really close. Tells me I'm lucky I'm asian because she likes asians. Tells me she will makeout with me, but not here, because there is a guy who likes her who came to see her today. I pull her down the street, makeout with her. Tell her I'm here few only a few more hours, and we need to hang out tonight. She says she hasnt had sex in a long time, but we can meet after work. Exchange numbers, tell her I'm going to fuck her super hard.

Go back to Ghandi, get van key, open more sets, pull out my dick on a 2 set who I kissed, my dick is actually hard, yay! Need to meet the blonde, so I tell them to suck it, they say no, I eject (maybe could have had them do it, but I wanted to fuck the blonde more). Txt the blonde, see her outside, she is talking with people, I nod her over to me, she ditches friends. I dont want anyone to know she is there for me, so I stay a few paces ahead of her. Lead her, I feel like the fucking man. Lead her, lead her. Take her back to the van. Tell her to get in, she gets in. I get in after her, then tell her to get in the back. Fucking her, then a head a bang, Jeff opens the door, I lose my hardon. They keep talking outside, then James tries to get in and I kick him out, my dick is super limp. Tell her that we will need to fuck again some other time cuz I cant get it up right now and I'll be back in San Francisco again soon (I will, I won a free ticket to some RSD thing by being the first student to fuck a girl in the van). Tell her that I'm going to cum on her face, and this makes me hard thinking about it. Then I take me opportunity and start fucking her again, finally blow my load, clothes on, James jumps in now with a girl, I walk the girl back to her bus stop. I come back, missing one sock (lost it in the van... poor sock!). Meet with Ghandi and Rob for some quick dinner close to the van. Go for a drink, James shows up, turns out now Jeff is fucking a girl in the van. Yes, it's a hat trick. Fucked 3 girls all in a row in that van, lol. We laugh, talk, get some brief advice, Jeff will send me things I need to personally work on in an email. We stencil a woman (like the woman you see on the bathroom thing that says "Women's Restroom") on the back of the van. Even though I fucked the 18th new girl in that van, I have stencil #19, lol. 

Anyways, this bootcamp was fucking amazing. Even if I didn't get laid, getting pushed and pushing myself that hard, pulling out my cock, and just being around this guys was well worth the price. Of course, it's only worth the price if a personal is willing to push themselves during the bootcamp and after. Would I pay $2000 to get laid by a hot girl in a van? Hell no. But I'd pay that much to get the momentum, direction, and personal attention to learn how to not fucking hard what others think about me, but at the same time able to be sensitive to how others are feeling, to not make excuses for wanting to fuck hot chicks, to be a man, and like david D would say, to "get this part of my life handled". Yeah, I had fun, and I would recommend this wayyyyy over that stupid mysterymethod crap I used to do. 
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Best.  Bootcamp.  Review.  Evar.

Holy shit.
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LOLing like a muthafucka
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Student getting out after fucking. Two others waiting outside with their ladies.

Broad daylight.

Day game.
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 lol "day game."

This is how the next generation of Bonobo Beastlords takes flight. Precisely as you say, with beastmode, logic goes out the window and party dong rules the roost, all the while balancing on the emotional wave of the interaction and maneuvering on that wave to pull crazier and crazier shit off. It's amazing. Remember as well that it's like the gym... the more you beast the stronger you will become. Sometimes you don't want to get your ass up and go to the gym, but once you are there you just start banging. The pain of discipline or the pain of regret... the choice is yours. You should beast a little every day. Think about it, a pro ball player who gets injured and misses even a couple weeks of the season will come back rusty. That's what we're talking about if you want to get to elite level. It can be tiring but I love doing little two week beast blasts where i just BOOM go out every day, at least a bit. By the end of the first consecutive week I literally become The Ultimate Man as Tyler calls it. This is the best high there is. My dick got hurt the other day from too much dick sucking from a crazy woman and I couldn't fuck for a day, james was like, "fuck it lets go beast anyway... beasting without fucking" like we don't even care ultimately about fucking the girl (although that is AWESOME SUPER AWESOME IN FACT) but we just got the beastmode fever yo lolololololol
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I cant fucking believe I missed the day game at the fair. I was bullshiting all day with one of my FB's.
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This ain't a bootcamp. It is a fucking BEASTcamp.
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Boners not kino man. My entire crew is basically composed of retards and sex addicts. There's not a whole lot of "thought" going on per se. Just beastmode and dong. Why do we fuck these girls? Because they get our dick hard and it is also a great form of exercise. DURR Never ask. Never narrate. Mumble gibberish and take your dick out. Some girl looked at you this one time at Starbucks HURRAY
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Gawdam San Fran freak fests. Love it.  I wanna give girls pony rides so badly right now
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Fuck, this is amazing, time to start saving up the dough.
Jeff, where'd you get the "NAMASTE, MOTHERFUCKER" shirt? That's awesome.
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