January 22nd, 2017
Illuminati Conspiracy
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Join Date: 10/22/2008 | Posts: 171

Without focusing on a specific company, what many pickup companies do is they practice the same forms of mind control that are practiced by illumaniti elitists. This includes repeating the same words and themes over and over again, framing your reality and sucking you into theirs, creating a hierarchy: "chodes" vs. "pickup artists" with stratified levels of access and so forth.

In other words, the game remains the same, even when the players change.
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Tyler wrote:
Illuminati = poor man's rationalizations for sucking.  Having met many of the richest in the world -- they're generally regular people who either grew their businesses (like we ALL have to do if we want that type of bling) or who come from families that passed down a lot of money (and they usually don't know how to manage the money or THEMSELVES).

Never met a single rich person who grasped the psychology that would be needed to ensnare people in some clever matrix designed to hold them down.  (Nor would it be in their interests as there's not a scarcity of money to be made -- again that's the poor person's thinking about why they suck.)

I'm sure you've met rich people - guys who have started multi-million dollar companies, maybe even a billionaire or two. The guys we are talking about are far above that. We're talking about the Rothschild family, the Rockefeller family, and guys like Henry Kissinger. The ones that control the media and have their hands in the international banks that profit from the Federal Reserve. 

I know what everybody's thinking - "oh lol isn't Bill Gates the richest man in the world?" No, but the corporate controlled media will tell you that to give you hope of "The American Dream." This quote taken out of David Rockefeller's mouth in his own biography:

"Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it"
-David Rockefeller

Another quote dealing with their chokehold on the media:
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government.The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries"
-David Rockefeller to Trilateral Commission in 1991 

Straight out of the horses mouth. Yes, the Rockefeller family has astronomically more money than Bill Gates. But guess what, they have the power to tell Forbes magazine not to publish that fact. Ever wonder why Jay-Z named his label Roc-A-Fella Records and throws a pyramid up as his symbol (back of the dollar bill). Just a way for them to poke fun at the idea of their control over all mediums.  

And before you say "I'm a poor man making a rationalization on why I suck." I'm far from poor, I built a company from the ground up and made a quarter of a million dollars in revenue and I'm not even 21 years old yet. I don't want to antagonize or argue, I do, however, would encourage people to read facts before posting retarded animated GIFs. It's the same way that guys who hate on this community are like "wow that's so gay" without even looking at the facts of what it's about. 

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Unless you are part of the bloodline, you are destined to be under their thumb.
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For me Rockefellers and Rothschilds are kind of like an inspiration that proves that regardless of ethics anything is possible including world domination whether is intentional or unintentional since everyone has different levels of intent.

Just having the ability to put on hold the entire economic resources of a nation as big as The United States is kind of bad ass if you ask me.

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I admit I am way too lazy to elaborate but holy fucking shit that first video is stupid.
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Indeed. I am simply pointing out however that to buy into and chase after illuminati/elitist goals is to become further ensnared in their trap in the first place.

To desire "money" or "beauty" or "fame" means that their agenda is simply reinforced, since they created the agenda in the first place. We have free will, but when we use it to follow the goals established by the elite to keep us subservient, the outcome is exactly the opposite of what we intended (liberation).

For example, to accumulate "money" does not free us: instead it becomes a trap and a prison where we define ourselves by financial accumulation. Let me explain: people THINK we do things because of money. That is not the case. Money is simply a series of numbers and fonts on a computer screen, or worthless scraps of paper exchanging hands.

We ALREADY control all of the wealth of the world and the universe. Only the LIE of bankers leads us to believe that we do not. They tell us we need money to buy water, or land, or for a massage. The REALITY is that we ALREADY own the land, the water, and everything else. However, it's all been stolen from us by a greedy few who now claim we need THEIR money to buy or more often rent some tiny scrap of land so that we are not placed in jail for 'squatting' or 'trespassing' (two legal lies reinforced by courts, lawyers and police) oh, which btw, they lend to us at usurious rates to keep us in debt perpetually!

If you want freedom, you must free your mind, your consciousness, your spirit. Money will not free you. Money is a trap, because it is an illusion. Beauty is a trap as well. Beauty forces us to identify with the ephemeral, the physical, when we are in fact infinite.

Fame is another trap, since media is controlled by illuminati elite. To become "famous" is to further the illuminati agenda, profit and power. Their goal is to create mindless media which distracts us from our own perfection.

Sorry I can't elaborate further, but for now I can say that the world we see is a series of lies forced upon by media, schools and so on, a function of our reliance upon our five senses, as well as a reflex mechanism since we find illusions more comfortable than unsettling truths.

You can use your free will to enjoy the cage that's been built for you, or to truly fly.
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Anyone who uses the term "Illuminati" in a serious, modern active context, outside of an historical reference, is projecting a mythology. The Bavarian Illuminati certainly did exist, but the claim that "they" are covertly running the world for some satanic gain is baseless. Here is a good article on this:

But Tyler is right in that this is a rationalization. It's the easy way out. It is simple to understand. "Hey! the world is run by a small group of satanists that control everything!".

Well, how convenient.

This type of reasoning (exposing individual people as corrupt, etc) is problematic.

We do the same thing in all aspects of life. Health and disease especially. That is, we mistake "object" for "process."

We see the tumor and call it the cancer. We see the pimple and call it the acne. We see the criminal and call them the problem.

The result of this is the tendency to assume that removal of the symptom is removal of the CAUSE. It never is. You cut the tumor out, another one comes back. You put the criminal in jail and a new one takes their place.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different outcome."

Well, the game of finger pointing at others is as old as the opposable thumb. What better way to maintain the status quo than to finger point at the person or persons in charge of things at any given moment? It's a form of pressure release. The average person is getting screwed, doesn't know why, and so all they can do (since they don't understand process) is point at and blame an object (or person).

It's a tragedy. And all of it can end if we just get enough people on the same page. I really truly think it's not just possible but inevitable. You can only hold people down so long. We can communicate right now with more ease than ever before. We gotta just keep focused on the true causes of the world's problems and keep speaking out. "Illuminati" doesn't mean anything to me. I'll talk to you about Corporate Psychopathy or about Fear Mongering or something that is relevant.

Best thing we can do is remain calm and start to actually use our heads. Doesn't take much to point a finger.
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Paris Boum Boum

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Why are the conspiracy guys - MOST of the time - lazy or unsuccesful guys wiz BARELY any education?
Why don't you find more conspiracy guys in ze more educated spheres of society?

I ask that as a very educated guy who watched Zeitgeist many times, alone and with succesful educated friends, read stuff and met many people believing in that kind of conspiracy. 

Global or big conspiracy = maybe, possible, why not, who knows. Marx believed in the world domination of the capitalist class. 
Illuminati, conspiracy as it is described in the Internet = ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??
Look, the guys who compiled those datas don't have any academic background, and they try to make it up by talking about freedom of thought and intense googling. 
Yet they don't have the education necessary to have the very freedom of thought they are proponents of. 

(Example off the top of my head: one day I heard someone say that Christians took the FISH as a symbol of whatever, he talked about water and how it announced the New Age, blah blah.
fish = IXTHUS in Ancient Greek, acronym fror Iesus Xristhos Theos Uos Soter, which means Jesus Christ Son of God our Savior.
If you don't know ancient Greek, you don't know that, and if you don't know that, you can say whatever you want about fishes and Christians and Messiahs and the end of the world, and nobody will argue against you).

Why is it that no one I met know the most important works concerning religion, history, economics, ...?
Why is it that they can say things about the Fed and don't know how a regular bank actually works?
How can you be sure you may be able to sift through the bullshit if you don't have a solid foundation of knowledge to back you up?

Guyz talking about maths and physics, and don't know how to solve an equation
Guys talking about history, and they don't even know the history of the 20th century... give me a break. 

The fact that - MOST OF THE TIME - they are well aware of alternate sources of knowledge, while in the same time TOTALLY IGNORING the knowledge considered as legit, is to me a signal. They don't want to know, they want to FEEL that they know. 

I'm very opened to that kind of topics, but I am dying to read actual intelligent well informed guys, and sadly those guys don't believe the Queen is a lizard. 

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Paris Boum Boum

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BTW FYI: the Queen of England is a lizard, and Bush and Obama are cousins. 
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LOL at Paris Boum Boum

So well put, and so true.  I had a girl in college try to argue basic principals of physics with me.  She was a philosophy major (doesn't even take physics one), I was currently taking quantum mechanics lol.  Same thing but different subject. 
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 Why is this thread 10 pages?
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