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"I don't see how the 2 are mutually exclusive" smirk and hand up her skirt.
No overcomplications. SImplifications.
U'll always get in trouble and will be just another dude, if you always try to give the right answer to get sex.
Try some wrong, offend somebody once in a while, but just because it's real, not because u wanna tell someone to go fuck themselves for the sake of it. Although that game is also fun.
No overcomplications. SImplifications.
U'll always get in trouble and will be just another dude, if you always try to give the right answer to get sex.
Try some wrong, offend somebody once in a while, but just because it's real, not because u wanna tell someone to go fuck themselves for the sake of it. Although that game is also fun.
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I don't like pussy footing around or lying. At first, it is always a sex thing unless she can distinguish herself from the rest. Be straight up and tell her the truth. Most girls don't believe you when your honest with them anyways.
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wait, are you saying this happens to you right before they sleep with you?
I dont know you well enough to know if I want to be with you, but I don't know you well enough to know if i don't want to be with you, so let's take things a day at a time and see where this goes
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I’m interested to know how my fellow brothers deal with this….
Every time I’m with a girl and things are going well, right when things start heating up, and escalating, at the point of no return or close to it, there is always this recoil, and they stop things and go into what I now refer to as the expectation management dance of doom.
They start to ask:
What is this?
Where is this going?
Is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
And I’ve found it’s a catch 22 because no matter what you are damned if you, and damned if you don’t because they put it into this either or frame.
Example:
Her: Wait is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
Me: I like you, and I’m interested to see where things go.
Her: So, you want a relationship.
Me: Well I don’t know what the future holds, but I like spending time with you.
Her: So this is a sex thing then…
this is a run of the mill shit test. she is playing with you which is a good thing. this is a make or break moment and you didnt pass. easy if you just ignore the question, and keep talking. or simply joke about it with "i hate sex. it is for losers". Every time I’m with a girl and things are going well, right when things start heating up, and escalating, at the point of no return or close to it, there is always this recoil, and they stop things and go into what I now refer to as the expectation management dance of doom.
They start to ask:
What is this?
Where is this going?
Is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
And I’ve found it’s a catch 22 because no matter what you are damned if you, and damned if you don’t because they put it into this either or frame.
Example:
Her: Wait is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
Me: I like you, and I’m interested to see where things go.
Her: So, you want a relationship.
Me: Well I don’t know what the future holds, but I like spending time with you.
Her: So this is a sex thing then…
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why not tell the truth?
what I mean - instead of looking for the right answer, the answer is right because it comes from you.
no, that's not what this is about.. we'll actually it is, but that is not going to help you i think. probably more helpfull is this;
it is the feeling you got caught. it's the sudden fear of: what do I need to say? it gets you reacting to her, therefore failing the shit test.
or if you rephrase that into congruence test; she wants to see if you are congruent with what you are doing: you are easy about sex?
seemed that way, does not seem that way if you feel caught, get nervous, try to please her, try to give the ideal response.. try to get the right reaction.
regardless of that, i found this also very helpfull to be aware of:
five reasons why a woman does not want to sleep with you:
1) she does not want a baby
2) she does not want a STD
3) she is afraid you fall in love too easy and you are going to stalk her (fear of chode)
4) she is afraid you don't fall in love at al, and that you only want to use her for sex
5) she is worried about her social status; she does not want her friends to think she is a slut.
1&2 are simple, and often don't come up unless you are already pulling here. just have condom with you.
3 happens if you are to much reaction seeking, pleasing, trying for rapport, etc...Mr. Nice guy,...it helps to throw in a remark of... "so stupid that guys don't get girls, and that the get all stalky etc, blabla"
4 happens if you are too much entertainer-man, and you don't have a real connection with her... it helps if you say to her that you want to see her again, that you don't want cheap sex, etc..
.,.. and the thing I encounter the most is reason number 5, however, you just need to isolate her!
what I mean - instead of looking for the right answer, the answer is right because it comes from you.
no, that's not what this is about.. we'll actually it is, but that is not going to help you i think. probably more helpfull is this;
it is the feeling you got caught. it's the sudden fear of: what do I need to say? it gets you reacting to her, therefore failing the shit test.
or if you rephrase that into congruence test; she wants to see if you are congruent with what you are doing: you are easy about sex?
seemed that way, does not seem that way if you feel caught, get nervous, try to please her, try to give the ideal response.. try to get the right reaction.
regardless of that, i found this also very helpfull to be aware of:
five reasons why a woman does not want to sleep with you:
1) she does not want a baby
2) she does not want a STD
3) she is afraid you fall in love too easy and you are going to stalk her (fear of chode)
4) she is afraid you don't fall in love at al, and that you only want to use her for sex
5) she is worried about her social status; she does not want her friends to think she is a slut.
1&2 are simple, and often don't come up unless you are already pulling here. just have condom with you.
3 happens if you are to much reaction seeking, pleasing, trying for rapport, etc...Mr. Nice guy,...it helps to throw in a remark of... "so stupid that guys don't get girls, and that the get all stalky etc, blabla"
4 happens if you are too much entertainer-man, and you don't have a real connection with her... it helps if you say to her that you want to see her again, that you don't want cheap sex, etc..
.,.. and the thing I encounter the most is reason number 5, however, you just need to isolate her!
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oh.. so... if don't know if you feel a sudden fear, the feeling of getting caught,... more uncomfortable / less relaxed.
but if you do, this is how i solve this:
i try to understand where this feeling comes from: what kind of beliefs or thought are causing this feeling? once i get to the core of that, I try to convice myself what what I believe is false. then I try to associate a really awful feeling with it: "How could I possible act this way? You must be crazy to act so akward and awful!". If would me MUCH more natural if I did this and that, because that would feel very relaxed and as it is meant to be. (This is where I identify my new beliefs, and image how i feel when i act upon those beliefs).
helps to get some leverage on yourself; for example; by getting so close but still not pulling for like 10 times on an evening. (this is why i like rejections, the fuel my "frustration" not in an emotional, bad way, but in a way that i think: MAN i REALLY need to get this handled! NOW!
but if you do, this is how i solve this:
i try to understand where this feeling comes from: what kind of beliefs or thought are causing this feeling? once i get to the core of that, I try to convice myself what what I believe is false. then I try to associate a really awful feeling with it: "How could I possible act this way? You must be crazy to act so akward and awful!". If would me MUCH more natural if I did this and that, because that would feel very relaxed and as it is meant to be. (This is where I identify my new beliefs, and image how i feel when i act upon those beliefs).
helps to get some leverage on yourself; for example; by getting so close but still not pulling for like 10 times on an evening. (this is why i like rejections, the fuel my "frustration" not in an emotional, bad way, but in a way that i think: MAN i REALLY need to get this handled! NOW!
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wel heb ik je ooit!
It really is about what u want and being connected with that. No second guessing. No thinking about it.
U want it funny, make it a joke,
U want sex, tap into that and don't make it a big deal.
U want a relationship, tell her without the pressure or neediness.
Know what u want, and tap into it. Trust it. This ties into getting to know who u are and what u want. Sounds cliche but seriously, that's what it is.
U want it funny, make it a joke,
U want sex, tap into that and don't make it a big deal.
U want a relationship, tell her without the pressure or neediness.
Know what u want, and tap into it. Trust it. This ties into getting to know who u are and what u want. Sounds cliche but seriously, that's what it is.
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Alex good shit.
ps this is not a shit test. it is lmr.
ps this is not a shit test. it is lmr.
ps this is not a shit test. it is lmr.
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Every time I’m with a girl and things are going well, right when things start heating up, and escalating, at the point of no return or close to it, there is always this recoil, and they stop things and go into what I now refer to as the expectation management dance of doom.
They start to ask:
What is this?
Where is this going?
Is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
And I’ve found it’s a catch 22 because no matter what you are damned if you, and damned if you don’t because they put it into this either or frame.
Example:
Her: Wait is this just a sex thing? Or do you want a relationship?
Me: I like you, and I’m interested to see where things go.
Her: So, you want a relationship.
Me: Well I don’t know what the future holds, but I like spending time with you.
Her: So this is a sex thing then…
Me: No that’s not what I said…
I found you can’t answer either explicitly….
I found you can’t answer directly because girls are always coming out of relationships of some shape or form. Either it usually fizzled because it was boring, and they now want some excitement. Or it was with a player she couldn’t get to commit, and she finally walked away, so they don’t want that again.
Talking “relationships” puts them in the “do I really want this?” wary buyer mode. Or if you say you are not interested in anything serious, they will say they don’t want another meaningless fling.
Hence the catch 22. I know most of this comes from insecurity and fear of being hurt.
It’s just so frustrating! And it really kills the moment…
What do I do with this?