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Cool. I was hoping for something like what you posted Alex.
Here is my view. I would not care if she cheated on me , if I never found out. If I don't know, it doesn't hurt me.
Even if every lie is found out, the consequences are dealt with, its a risk. I'm a risk-taker. It's a natural part of breaking rules.
Your talking about a lot of extremes, that are just not going to happen. Maybe you should stay away from the crazy ones if your girlfriends are doing things like that because of getting cheated on.
"Cowardice chicken shit" Sounds like you could learn some emotional control and be more like me. I don't have to prove my integrity to her or myself. I play the game smart and efficiently.
Here is my mindset, evolution has set guys into wanting to reproduce with as many women as possible. She wants a guy who can get other girls, but chooses her. If I am pleased with her, I will not cheat. If she isn't sucking my dick enough, somebody else will. It is perfectly natural for me to want to bang tons of girls. She is a girl, she is destined to find one guy and commit to him, and have that guy care for her and the offspring. It is NOT natural for her to cheat. The more she pleases me (sex, cooking, keeping house cleaned, great conversation, etc) the more loyal I am to just her. I am not 100% loyal and never will be.
I mean if Megan Fox offered you $10 million , while you were drunk and she was naked, would you fuck her? If you say yes, you are not 100% loyal either. Marriage and commitment to me is social programming that is flawed.
actually, it is natural for girls to cheat. how else will she produce the best offspring? Here is my view. I would not care if she cheated on me , if I never found out. If I don't know, it doesn't hurt me.
Even if every lie is found out, the consequences are dealt with, its a risk. I'm a risk-taker. It's a natural part of breaking rules.
Your talking about a lot of extremes, that are just not going to happen. Maybe you should stay away from the crazy ones if your girlfriends are doing things like that because of getting cheated on.
"Cowardice chicken shit" Sounds like you could learn some emotional control and be more like me. I don't have to prove my integrity to her or myself. I play the game smart and efficiently.
Here is my mindset, evolution has set guys into wanting to reproduce with as many women as possible. She wants a guy who can get other girls, but chooses her. If I am pleased with her, I will not cheat. If she isn't sucking my dick enough, somebody else will. It is perfectly natural for me to want to bang tons of girls. She is a girl, she is destined to find one guy and commit to him, and have that guy care for her and the offspring. It is NOT natural for her to cheat. The more she pleases me (sex, cooking, keeping house cleaned, great conversation, etc) the more loyal I am to just her. I am not 100% loyal and never will be.
I mean if Megan Fox offered you $10 million , while you were drunk and she was naked, would you fuck her? If you say yes, you are not 100% loyal either. Marriage and commitment to me is social programming that is flawed.
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Here's the deal. Strip away all of society's rules and norms. And cheating is still fundementally lying.
I assume when you indicate you are "cheating" there is some agreement that you have entered into that strongly indicates you will not have sex with other women.
Otherwise, you wouldn't refer to it as cheating. If you were in an open relationship. No reason to hide. Or be on the down low. And no reason to call it cheating.
I don't need society or conformists to tell me that a hypocrite and a liar is a sucky person. Society could have zero social norms. No rules.
I wouldn't respect somebody who is a hypocrite or liar.
And it is being a hypocrite because instead of being in an open relationship. You are asking somebody to commit to you while sneaking around.
Otherwise, the word cheating woudln't even be used.
If you didn't care if your GF fucked other dudes. Just be in an open relationship and not be dishonest or hypocritical.
And I would bet almost everyone, even in a society with no rules and zero social norms, would gravitate towards honest people and dislike dishonest people.
Even if nobody else knows. You know. You know you're a sucky person. And that's reason enough. Not to do it.
I assume when you indicate you are "cheating" there is some agreement that you have entered into that strongly indicates you will not have sex with other women.
Otherwise, you wouldn't refer to it as cheating. If you were in an open relationship. No reason to hide. Or be on the down low. And no reason to call it cheating.
I don't need society or conformists to tell me that a hypocrite and a liar is a sucky person. Society could have zero social norms. No rules.
I wouldn't respect somebody who is a hypocrite or liar.
And it is being a hypocrite because instead of being in an open relationship. You are asking somebody to commit to you while sneaking around.
Otherwise, the word cheating woudln't even be used.
If you didn't care if your GF fucked other dudes. Just be in an open relationship and not be dishonest or hypocritical.
And I would bet almost everyone, even in a society with no rules and zero social norms, would gravitate towards honest people and dislike dishonest people.
Even if nobody else knows. You know. You know you're a sucky person. And that's reason enough. Not to do it.
There are a lot of community members that really look out for the girls and their well-being, I've noticed. If you are out with a girl, not your GF, and its situational to have sex with her, why not do it? Your GF will never know.
I don't follow rules. Never have. I go with good judgement, if I can get away with it, and its beneficial to me, I do it.
More and more I feel like I am becoming detached from feeling love for others. The only person that matters in the universe in yourself, and those that you give importance to, such as family, best friends, lovers. Acting out of self-interest, in regards to them (not letting her find out that you cheated) seems like it would be totally fine. Whats the difference between when you were younger and lied to your parents about staying at a different friend's house, and cheating on your girlfriend? Its the same concept. If she never finds out, it never happened.
I take into consideration the minute difference of how your actions are naturally subtley different from having sex with other girls and how when you see her, you might not be horny. Its too subtle to bring into play though imo.
Why is cheating wrong? Because it is dishonest. I don't follow rules. Never have. I go with good judgement, if I can get away with it, and its beneficial to me, I do it.
More and more I feel like I am becoming detached from feeling love for others. The only person that matters in the universe in yourself, and those that you give importance to, such as family, best friends, lovers. Acting out of self-interest, in regards to them (not letting her find out that you cheated) seems like it would be totally fine. Whats the difference between when you were younger and lied to your parents about staying at a different friend's house, and cheating on your girlfriend? Its the same concept. If she never finds out, it never happened.
I take into consideration the minute difference of how your actions are naturally subtley different from having sex with other girls and how when you see her, you might not be horny. Its too subtle to bring into play though imo.
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I go out in SF very weekend, PM me if you go out there also.
Why is cheating wrong? Because it is dishonest.
Exactly. Even in a society with zero social norms. Zero rules. Zero documentation outlining right or wrong. People inherently dislike being lied too. Or misled. It's instinctive.
Wether or not anyone finds out is irrelevant in discussing morality. Using that poor logic, up until the point Bernie Madoff was exposed, it wasn't wrong to steal money from people as long as they weren't aware of it??
That's not how morality works.
I don't like it when a someone isn't nice to me, is that morally wrong too?
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Jeffy Bootcamp Alumnus Oct 30-Nov 1, 2009
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
Is cheating wrong??? IMO NOT cheating is wrong, if you feel like cheating you should do it, unless maybe you have a pregnant girlfriend or a kid or have promised to be faithful, but why would you promise that in the first place???
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I don't like it when a someone isn't nice to me, is that morally wrong too?
Depends. There are 1000000000's of different ways for somebody to be "not nice". I wouldn't get caught up in the "morality" part of it. Or get caught up in word semantics. In the larger scheme of things, it's simply wrong. Dishonesty and Lying are pretty cut and dry.
No rationale person needs to debate that.
Is it fair to say, you dislike it if somebody lies to you? Is it fair to say you dislike it when somebody is hypocritical?
Is it fair to say, you didn't need society to tell you that you don't like those things?
Point being. It's wrong
Because the answer to all of those questions is YES.
So if there's a social situation and a girl isn't nice to me like mildly insulting and maybe condescending, and basically just shows a general lack of respect for me is that wrong?
Why are you basing what's right or wrong on what behaviour you like?
Why are you basing what's right or wrong on what behaviour you like?
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Jeffy Bootcamp Alumnus Oct 30-Nov 1, 2009
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/138865
Life changing self-esteem article by Tyler
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12471
Excellent post about practice and consistency by Ozzie. Really hits home.
http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=13223
Field report thread.
http://rsdnation.com/node/127554
"Treat other people the way you wanna be treated"
If you wanna other people cheat on you, then cheat.
Is cheating good or bad? You decide. Have your own opinion.
As Alex! said you can fuck up some girls, you decide if you want to do such things.
ChinaBoy
If you wanna other people cheat on you, then cheat.
Is cheating good or bad? You decide. Have your own opinion.
As Alex! said you can fuck up some girls, you decide if you want to do such things.
ChinaBoy
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