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Social programming, nothing more.
to me, morality, belief, faith, everything, is just social programming. its all bullshit that there is no reason for you to buy into it.other people do, thats their problem.
to me, morality, belief, faith, everything, is just social programming. its all bullshit that there is no reason for you to buy into it.other people do, thats their problem.
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It's on ur values and urs alone. Asking on this forum that question with that kind of conviction is almost comical.
Just flip it and ask urself if after all that u've invested in ur girl, u'd like it if she went and did the same to u.
Of course not.
You're toying with people emotions, and unlike some of the people on here, who are learning to control them, be in tune and to develop mental awareness to become a better human being; girls are far more subject to serious repercussions. Harming themselves physically (drinking, hating on the other girls/you), depression, a rampage of self-destructive behavior, etc.. You are fucking them over.
I know u stated if they found out. U still know, and that's not integrity. That's cowardice chicken shit. U wanna bang some hoes on the side, go ahead. But be man enough to tell her to her face. Hopefully u won't catch a bug and pass it on.
I'm of the opinion that every lie and hidden harmful mischief has an expiration date. It's always found out.
There's no right or wrong universally, but there are always consequences. Some cultures are cool w poligamy. Obviously urs isn't because u call it cheating.
But that's ur own values and ur values alone.
There's a difference between being an asshole to pull hot chicks, and an insecure selfish prick who doesn't value himself enough to value someone else. If the shoe fits...
Just flip it and ask urself if after all that u've invested in ur girl, u'd like it if she went and did the same to u.
Of course not.
You're toying with people emotions, and unlike some of the people on here, who are learning to control them, be in tune and to develop mental awareness to become a better human being; girls are far more subject to serious repercussions. Harming themselves physically (drinking, hating on the other girls/you), depression, a rampage of self-destructive behavior, etc.. You are fucking them over.
I know u stated if they found out. U still know, and that's not integrity. That's cowardice chicken shit. U wanna bang some hoes on the side, go ahead. But be man enough to tell her to her face. Hopefully u won't catch a bug and pass it on.
I'm of the opinion that every lie and hidden harmful mischief has an expiration date. It's always found out.
There's no right or wrong universally, but there are always consequences. Some cultures are cool w poligamy. Obviously urs isn't because u call it cheating.
But that's ur own values and ur values alone.
There's a difference between being an asshole to pull hot chicks, and an insecure selfish prick who doesn't value himself enough to value someone else. If the shoe fits...
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Cool. I was hoping for something like what you posted Alex.
Here is my view. I would not care if she cheated on me , if I never found out. If I don't know, it doesn't hurt me.
Even if every lie is found out, the consequences are dealt with, its a risk. I'm a risk-taker. It's a natural part of breaking rules.
Your talking about a lot of extremes, that are just not going to happen. Maybe you should stay away from the crazy ones if your girlfriends are doing things like that because of getting cheated on.
"Cowardice chicken shit" Sounds like you could learn some emotional control and be more like me. I don't have to prove my integrity to her or myself. I play the game smart and efficiently.
Here is my mindset, evolution has set guys into wanting to reproduce with as many women as possible. She wants a guy who can get other girls, but chooses her. If I am pleased with her, I will not cheat. If she isn't sucking my dick enough, somebody else will. It is perfectly natural for me to want to bang tons of girls. She is a girl, she is destined to find one guy and commit to him, and have that guy care for her and the offspring. It is NOT natural for her to cheat. The more she pleases me (sex, cooking, keeping house cleaned, great conversation, etc) the more loyal I am to just her. I am not 100% loyal and never will be.
I mean if Megan Fox offered you $10 million , while you were drunk and she was naked, would you fuck her? If you say yes, you are not 100% loyal either. Marriage and commitment to me is social programming that is flawed.
Here is my view. I would not care if she cheated on me , if I never found out. If I don't know, it doesn't hurt me.
Even if every lie is found out, the consequences are dealt with, its a risk. I'm a risk-taker. It's a natural part of breaking rules.
Your talking about a lot of extremes, that are just not going to happen. Maybe you should stay away from the crazy ones if your girlfriends are doing things like that because of getting cheated on.
"Cowardice chicken shit" Sounds like you could learn some emotional control and be more like me. I don't have to prove my integrity to her or myself. I play the game smart and efficiently.
Here is my mindset, evolution has set guys into wanting to reproduce with as many women as possible. She wants a guy who can get other girls, but chooses her. If I am pleased with her, I will not cheat. If she isn't sucking my dick enough, somebody else will. It is perfectly natural for me to want to bang tons of girls. She is a girl, she is destined to find one guy and commit to him, and have that guy care for her and the offspring. It is NOT natural for her to cheat. The more she pleases me (sex, cooking, keeping house cleaned, great conversation, etc) the more loyal I am to just her. I am not 100% loyal and never will be.
I mean if Megan Fox offered you $10 million , while you were drunk and she was naked, would you fuck her? If you say yes, you are not 100% loyal either. Marriage and commitment to me is social programming that is flawed.
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I said if the shoe fits, champ.
For a very aware guy, claiming I "assume" ure bad, when you automatically believe that every girl you meet is to be improved ("leaving them better than u found them"), is prejudicial to begin with. Which is highly contradicting w the person u described.
"Irregardless" doesn't exist.
Look dude, the points made r there, take em of leave em.
Being stoic doesn't make wrong shit right. Being generous and having that friendly face doesn't necessarily make u a good person. Yea yea it's all semantics, but the hurt people r still there. Maybe try an open relationship?
And integrity is integrity. Proven or not. Doing something you would hide or be ashamed of or regret or whatever, is not integrity. But that's just on u.
It's ok ure in that stage of ur growth and it will pass and u'll grow out of it.
There will always be the one girl who will come knock u off ur feet and u'll think back on this.
Hopefully u won't feel like shit if she does find out, on the pain u'll mos def instill. Just because u won't feel it doesn't mean she won't either.
And yes, some girls will resent this fiercely and will impact them more often than not negatively for whatever period. If u don't know this or can't fathom it, then u prob haven't been around enough. U'd be surprised.
For a very aware guy, claiming I "assume" ure bad, when you automatically believe that every girl you meet is to be improved ("leaving them better than u found them"), is prejudicial to begin with. Which is highly contradicting w the person u described.
"Irregardless" doesn't exist.
Look dude, the points made r there, take em of leave em.
Being stoic doesn't make wrong shit right. Being generous and having that friendly face doesn't necessarily make u a good person. Yea yea it's all semantics, but the hurt people r still there. Maybe try an open relationship?
And integrity is integrity. Proven or not. Doing something you would hide or be ashamed of or regret or whatever, is not integrity. But that's just on u.
It's ok ure in that stage of ur growth and it will pass and u'll grow out of it.
There will always be the one girl who will come knock u off ur feet and u'll think back on this.
Hopefully u won't feel like shit if she does find out, on the pain u'll mos def instill. Just because u won't feel it doesn't mean she won't either.
And yes, some girls will resent this fiercely and will impact them more often than not negatively for whatever period. If u don't know this or can't fathom it, then u prob haven't been around enough. U'd be surprised.
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Whether I am a good or bad person is pretty irrelevant. People generally aren't for "open" relationships. The point of relationship is usually defined by exclusivity.
You call it integrity, but lying to keep somebody happy has more value to me than a code of ethics. I don't have to adhere to an unwritten rule to go for the greater good. --- Think about this on a deeper level, like *mass genocide*. Its horrible right? What if its done to save the human race? You saw the movie Watchmen right? Bomb at the end destroying a city- done by a superhero?
I'm leaning towards that I'm not going to ever get crushed by a girl cheating on me. I've absorbed Toll's ideas about the ego into my life. I don't make my girlfriend an extension of myself. I live day to day, and if I lose her, I'm no less of a person, and will get a new girlfriend. Its life, people cheat, lie, manipulate, and eventually die, to expect different is to be an idiot. Everybody does those things. I lie about not sleeping with other women, you might tell a little white lie about your girlfriend looking great with no make-up on. Nobody has complete integrity. Nobody is innocent. I don't lie to myself and tell myself I have integrity when in fact I tell lies (even little white lies), just like every single other human being.
You call it integrity, but lying to keep somebody happy has more value to me than a code of ethics. I don't have to adhere to an unwritten rule to go for the greater good. --- Think about this on a deeper level, like *mass genocide*. Its horrible right? What if its done to save the human race? You saw the movie Watchmen right? Bomb at the end destroying a city- done by a superhero?
I'm leaning towards that I'm not going to ever get crushed by a girl cheating on me. I've absorbed Toll's ideas about the ego into my life. I don't make my girlfriend an extension of myself. I live day to day, and if I lose her, I'm no less of a person, and will get a new girlfriend. Its life, people cheat, lie, manipulate, and eventually die, to expect different is to be an idiot. Everybody does those things. I lie about not sleeping with other women, you might tell a little white lie about your girlfriend looking great with no make-up on. Nobody has complete integrity. Nobody is innocent. I don't lie to myself and tell myself I have integrity when in fact I tell lies (even little white lies), just like every single other human being.
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Because i'm scared that it might happen to me and want to live in a world of moral rules so i can feel secure that others follow the same rules because i don't want it to happen to me so i impose moral rules on myself and others to protect myself from my own insecurities but when i do inevitably engage in behaviour i deem abhorrent i regard it as an aborration rather than the norm and believe the guilt is enough to assuage me of my hypocrisy and all is right with the world.
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Where inherently a broken fucked up psychotic creature
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Hai!!!
If you didn't promise them anythng, it isn't cheating.
I'm leaning towards that I'm not going to ever get crushed by a girl cheating on me. I've absorbed Toll's ideas about the ego into my life. I don't make my girlfriend an extension of myself. I live day to day, and if I lose her, I'm no less of a person, and will get a new girlfriend. Its life, people cheat, lie, manipulate, and eventually die, to expect different is to be an idiot. Everybody does those things.
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Hai!!!
The problem is this: you have no control over whether or not she finds out. Even if you are on top of your shit like motherfuckin Dexter Morgan, you can never eliminate the element of randomness.
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The problem is this: you have no control over whether or not she finds out. Even if you are on top of your shit like motherfuckin Dexter Morgan, you can never eliminate the element of randomness.
Yeah, but my IDGAF factor covers up the part I leave open to chance. Even if I get caught, I am so stuck in my reality of it not being a big deal, that I could convince her to get over it. - I have a kilo shit ton of power over the girls I date. I know my girl doesn't club like I do. I go out with my buddy, we pick up a 2set and bang them both and don't leave our phone numbers. (of course I'm not always that careful) The other day I left the party me and my gf were at, to take a girl home, I was gone 3 hours, I had my friend cover for me saying I stopped by his house and hanging for a while.
The sad truth is, if I decide I want to lie to these girls, they WILL believe me. Generally I am loyal and honest, occasionally I am not.
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I don't follow rules. Never have. I go with good judgement, if I can get away with it, and its beneficial to me, I do it.
More and more I feel like I am becoming detached from feeling love for others. The only person that matters in the universe in yourself, and those that you give importance to, such as family, best friends, lovers. Acting out of self-interest, in regards to them (not letting her find out that you cheated) seems like it would be totally fine. Whats the difference between when you were younger and lied to your parents about staying at a different friend's house, and cheating on your girlfriend? Its the same concept. If she never finds out, it never happened.
I take into consideration the minute difference of how your actions are naturally subtley different from having sex with other girls and how when you see her, you might not be horny. Its too subtle to bring into play though imo.
EDIT :// Page 1-2 is the main discussion. Notice transition. I think I've got an answer to my question.
Why is cheating bad? Because people don't like being cheated on.
The ethic of reprocity , aka The Golden Rule.
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