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No approaches today. And mall super hottie from yesterday flaked on me when I tried to call her. Rejected call, text back "Who are you". Lesson learned, Casanova. Fuck you and the 30 second interactions. You have to put solid effort. Lesson learned.
What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
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Schooling:
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
That number isn't "dead". It's an opportunity to try some stuff out. I actually like those sorts of messages sometimes because it allows me to try new stuff out and turn her around. Don't be disheartened. You can never fail. Only learn.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Looks like you are impatient for growth/success. Trust in the process and keep applying what you've learnt. You'll get there in the end. It's a marathon not a sprint.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Looks like you are impatient for growth/success. Trust in the process and keep applying what you've learnt. You'll get there in the end. It's a marathon not a sprint.
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That number isn't "dead". It's an opportunity to try some stuff out. I actually like those sorts of messages sometimes because it allows me to try new stuff out and turn her around. Don't be disheartened. You can never fail. Only learn.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Looks like you are impatient for growth/success. Trust in the process and keep applying what you've learnt. You'll get there in the end. It's a marathon not a sprint.
True. Thanks for the support Matt. I'm just gonna have to struggle while the city is deserted for the next 10-15 days. When everyone comes back in September there is gonna be a rush of hundreds of people my age coming. So it will be old paradise times again. The dam is about to break, I just have to hold on some more days in the desert Don't be so hard on yourself. Looks like you are impatient for growth/success. Trust in the process and keep applying what you've learnt. You'll get there in the end. It's a marathon not a sprint.
What kind of stuff do you try on flaked numbers? You were mentioning trying new stuff out. It makes me just wanna pull an Alexander and do some extreme expression to have fun like saying I wanna get her pregnant, or I'm an undercover cop and her phone is under tap right now or some shit, but I don't know about that. Is there any way to get a dead number back?
Btw one small question for you Matt, and other guys, do you usually text or call? I've NEVER called a girl I've hooked up with. So I dunno if I should text or call her. On one side I feel like if I'm texting I'm a pussy for not calling her. But on the other hand the only 2 times I tried to call the girls never picked up. Probably not standard, just lack of solid interaction to being with in these 2 cases, but I'd like to hear you guys' input.
The adventure continues~
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Schooling:
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
No approaches today. And mall super hottie from yesterday flaked on me when I tried to call her. Rejected call, text back "Who are you". Lesson learned, Casanova. Fuck you and the 30 second interactions. You have to put solid effort. Lesson learned.
What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
Great, great lessons, that's the path you should follow: solid. Now, stop to realize that 95% of the men of the world never get those lessons and pat yourself on the back for taking action. Then continue with your path.What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
Text or call? Text is better for solidifying her idea or you because it's easy. Call is good for setting meet ups. Also, I've had some numbers that had stopped replying my messages and would attend my calls. Get some experience in both so you are comfortable, really comfortable doing it.
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Some principles that have been getting me some success:
- When I'm out: it's me-time. I focus on expressing myself and doing what's fun for me, I don't care about girls. Self-absorbedness.
- 'It's all good, it's going to be fine, I am enough'. No worries or concerns. Let the dynamics work for me.
- Nobody is going to pull girls home for me. Self-image will stop you, take action regardless.
- Focus on finding a girl DTF vs. trying to game/arouse/whatever girl after girl.
- When I'm out: it's me-time. I focus on expressing myself and doing what's fun for me, I don't care about girls. Self-absorbedness.
- 'It's all good, it's going to be fine, I am enough'. No worries or concerns. Let the dynamics work for me.
- Nobody is going to pull girls home for me. Self-image will stop you, take action regardless.
- Focus on finding a girl DTF vs. trying to game/arouse/whatever girl after girl.
IvánPérez.
No approaches today. And mall super hottie from yesterday flaked on me when I tried to call her. Rejected call, text back "Who are you". Lesson learned, Casanova. Fuck you and the 30 second interactions. You have to put solid effort. Lesson learned.
What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
Great, great lessons, that's the path you should follow: solid. Now, stop to realize that 95% of the men of the world never get those lessons and pat yourself on the back for taking action. Then continue with your path.What's next:
- Have more solid interactions. Go have coffee.
- Be more direct. Do not be in social mode. You are approaching her because you want her. Set the frame. "You're gonna be my next GF" or "You're gonna be mine". Something like that.
- Call her phone on the spot when she gives you her number. Do not get her number and 3 hours later, she receives a message from mystery man saying "Hello, I am the dude you met at the mall". Fuck off. Call her then and there. Or at least ler her know your number then and there.
Solid lessons. I will apply those next time.
Text or call? Text is better for solidifying her idea or you because it's easy. Call is good for setting meet ups. Also, I've had some numbers that had stopped replying my messages and would attend my calls. Get some experience in both so you are comfortable, really comfortable doing it.
__________________
Schooling:
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
I text, because I'm lazy and that's what most people do in the UK...
I think I've written some posts on texting before, but I've just taken the principles that others have written about and applied my own style. The biggest thing I've learnt is that text game needs to be congruent with the interaction you've had. You can't be a shy, quiet guy during the pick up, and then become a "pick up hero" over the phone. It just doesn't work. The other is that the more solid the interaction is, the more solid the number is likely to be - but this is more a generalisation. I've had instances where I've spoken to a girl about the weather for 5 minutes and the number turned out to be rock solid, and others where I was with a girl for 2 hours and it flaked. Bear in mind that some of it is also to do with the girls state of mind as well - she may just have been caught up in the moment when she gave you her number, she might be really busy, she might have gone on holiday, she might have lost her phone etc etc. The list goes on.
There is no foolproof way to turn around a flaked number. I apply the same principles as the club - if she doesn't tell me to fuck off then she can still be won over. That said, if I get bored I also stop after a while. In terms of trying stuff out; role plays, stories etc. Recently I got a number off a girl I spoke to for about 20 mins in a club. The number and interaction was fairly solid. She replied to my intial few texts but after a day or two went quiet. So I sent something random;
Me: Oak wood makes wonderful furniture x
Her: What?! x
Me: I thought Somali pirates had kidnapped you and that was the passcode we agreed with them for the handover? x
Her: Haha I see! I'm driving to Scotland at the mo, my signal is all over the shop! x
So she was just busy with her life, but something interesting reignited something that could have died if I had left it...
I also like the 5-minute text girlfriend stuff that Tim talks about in Flawless Natural. Did this with another one recently.
Me: I love you x
Her: Oh jolly good...
Me: Ok, ok too fast. Let's go slow. You can be my text message girlfriend for the next 5 mins x
Her: Oh go on then...
...random stuff...
Her: You're dumped xx
Me: Awesome! This is the best part about a relationship! The breakup sex!
Her: Haha you are so cheeky! x
Me: You like it x
I then started to talk about chaining her down as part of the break up sex. We sent a few more texts back and forth, but I think I freaked her out at this stage and she stopped playing along after a while. No matter. It was fun and there are always more girls :-)
Honestly, I'm not doing much beyond what has been written before, I just change it to suit my style. The fact is, every girl and interaction is going to be different so there is no one thing that 'works'. But the general rules and principles are the same, so read up on them, and fit them to how you act when you are in set. Finally, don't give up so easily. So she didn't reply to your call? So what? She could have been taking a shit when you called...
Have fun.
I think I've written some posts on texting before, but I've just taken the principles that others have written about and applied my own style. The biggest thing I've learnt is that text game needs to be congruent with the interaction you've had. You can't be a shy, quiet guy during the pick up, and then become a "pick up hero" over the phone. It just doesn't work. The other is that the more solid the interaction is, the more solid the number is likely to be - but this is more a generalisation. I've had instances where I've spoken to a girl about the weather for 5 minutes and the number turned out to be rock solid, and others where I was with a girl for 2 hours and it flaked. Bear in mind that some of it is also to do with the girls state of mind as well - she may just have been caught up in the moment when she gave you her number, she might be really busy, she might have gone on holiday, she might have lost her phone etc etc. The list goes on.
There is no foolproof way to turn around a flaked number. I apply the same principles as the club - if she doesn't tell me to fuck off then she can still be won over. That said, if I get bored I also stop after a while. In terms of trying stuff out; role plays, stories etc. Recently I got a number off a girl I spoke to for about 20 mins in a club. The number and interaction was fairly solid. She replied to my intial few texts but after a day or two went quiet. So I sent something random;
Me: Oak wood makes wonderful furniture x
Her: What?! x
Me: I thought Somali pirates had kidnapped you and that was the passcode we agreed with them for the handover? x
Her: Haha I see! I'm driving to Scotland at the mo, my signal is all over the shop! x
So she was just busy with her life, but something interesting reignited something that could have died if I had left it...
I also like the 5-minute text girlfriend stuff that Tim talks about in Flawless Natural. Did this with another one recently.
Me: I love you x
Her: Oh jolly good...
Me: Ok, ok too fast. Let's go slow. You can be my text message girlfriend for the next 5 mins x
Her: Oh go on then...
...random stuff...
Her: You're dumped xx
Me: Awesome! This is the best part about a relationship! The breakup sex!
Her: Haha you are so cheeky! x
Me: You like it x
I then started to talk about chaining her down as part of the break up sex. We sent a few more texts back and forth, but I think I freaked her out at this stage and she stopped playing along after a while. No matter. It was fun and there are always more girls :-)
Honestly, I'm not doing much beyond what has been written before, I just change it to suit my style. The fact is, every girl and interaction is going to be different so there is no one thing that 'works'. But the general rules and principles are the same, so read up on them, and fit them to how you act when you are in set. Finally, don't give up so easily. So she didn't reply to your call? So what? She could have been taking a shit when you called...
Have fun.
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You're right Matt. Lack of experience in phone interactions. I learned a lot from your post. It does make sense. It's like a real life interaction. You reopen and say retarded shit until it hooks. Thanks!
I'm gonna post the text interaction for educational purposes.
I met the girl. First text I sent was:
By the way this is my phone number, and my name is Vasco. But you can call me Bond. James Bond!
I was worrying she was jailbait after I met her, so the next text I sent her was:
What's your age?
No reply. I tried calling after. She didn't answer.
Tell me when I can call you. I have something fantastic to tell you.
[=rgb(153, 50, 204)]Who are you?[/]
This is the point where I said to myself "fuck". Should have mentioned meeting her at the mall in my first message. She probably didn't relate my phone number to me. Whatever.
Do you forget all awesome guys you meet at the mall like that? Forget it then, no problem.
Next day:
I was naturally kidding. Look, I enjoyed meeting you at the mall a lot, but I can't remember your face. So add me on Facebook. My full name is [xxx]. If you don't want to, no problems (and remember to save my number this time, silly). Kiss.
No reply. No FB add half a day later.
You're gonna be my new SMS girlfriend for the next 5 minutes. Where would you want to go on a romantic trip? My favorite country is definitely Ireland. Yours is Italy for sure.
I'm gonna post the text interaction for educational purposes.
I met the girl. First text I sent was:
By the way this is my phone number, and my name is Vasco. But you can call me Bond. James Bond!
I was worrying she was jailbait after I met her, so the next text I sent her was:
What's your age?
No reply. I tried calling after. She didn't answer.
Tell me when I can call you. I have something fantastic to tell you.
[=rgb(153, 50, 204)]Who are you?[/]
This is the point where I said to myself "fuck". Should have mentioned meeting her at the mall in my first message. She probably didn't relate my phone number to me. Whatever.
Do you forget all awesome guys you meet at the mall like that? Forget it then, no problem.
Next day:
I was naturally kidding. Look, I enjoyed meeting you at the mall a lot, but I can't remember your face. So add me on Facebook. My full name is [xxx]. If you don't want to, no problems (and remember to save my number this time, silly). Kiss.
No reply. No FB add half a day later.
You're gonna be my new SMS girlfriend for the next 5 minutes. Where would you want to go on a romantic trip? My favorite country is definitely Ireland. Yours is Italy for sure.
__________________
Schooling:
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)
yo my man st. pats u gotta chill on ur txting situation man.. u txted way too many times man w/o a response.. if ur gonna text a chick jst wait for a response rather than text her like 5 times im not sure wht the entire time period was but I'd probably send tht first txt than wait another day before sending something else.. u kinda come off as if ur operating from scarcity because ur sending all these texts search texting on the forum and check brads, manwhore, n ryans stuff
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Oi SaintPatrick follow Alex's daygame model to the letter and see how you go http://www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/day-game-and-solid-interactions
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You really struck my interest with Mall Game.
What time would you say is the best for the most amount of girls?
The only problem that I've got with mall game/day game in general is that there could either be as shitload of girls, or very few.
In your self-bootcamp where you spent 4-5 hours at the mall, what times did you notice that good looking girls were out most?
Thanks,
-AR
It's kinda funny to talk of this almost scientifically-like... but I noticed the best time is 3PM - 4PM. At least here in Portugal. It's when most girls are out. And you have to go near the girl clothing stores if you wanna find them. They won't be walking around the cinema area or such.
During the lunch time ironically it would be logical more girls would be there but there are less girls there actually.
At evening, it's the opposite, it seems most people wanna have dinner at the mall. I usually go out just to have some sushi and find lots of girls.
So I would say 3PM - 5PM and 6PM - 8PM. There are also cases of girls being 4 hours at the mall. One of the hotties I met yesterday was there 11 AM. I went away and returned to the mall at 4 PM and she was still shopping there.
And ironically I don't care about the most amount of girls, because I don't wanna look playerish. I have lots of difficulty approaching a girl and then approaching another one on the same floor or in the immediate vicinity. I don't know. It just looks playerish. I've been trying to overcome that, but most times I just go and approach 1-2 girls. I think I go out MANY times and approach one girl each time versus going out ONE time and approaching many girls that time.
The only ones knowing you're a player will be the store clerks and such. And a warning: Do not game store clerks. If it goes bad you'll have to pass by them everyday when you're out gaming in the mall.
Cheers
RSD World Summit II (August 2010)
Alexander~ Lisbon BC Alumni (March 2011)
Brad- Lisbon BC Assistant (July 2011)
RSD World Summit III (August 2011)
FRs:
Playing the Game Right (April 2011)
20B1 (January 2011)
Post-Summit - Firing on All Cylinders (August 2010)