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September 25th, 2017
What Are Your Thoughts On Feminism?
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#21
Hamlet

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Join Date: 12/08/2008 | Posts: 590

Hellion wrote:
men are still expected to whiteknight females on a first date by paying for dinner etc. The damage done is possibly the worst thing that's happened to humanity (other than the hollocaust).
HELL YEAH!
1. HOLOCAUST
2. FEMINISM
3. CAMBODIAN KILLING FIELDS
4. BP OIL LEAK
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#22
Caligula

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Hamlet wrote:

Hellion wrote:
men are still expected to whiteknight females on a first date by paying for dinner etc. The damage done is possibly the worst thing that's happened to humanity (other than the hollocaust).
HELL YEAH!
1. HOLOCAUST
2. FEMINISM
3. CAMBODIAN KILLING FIELDS
4. BP OIL LEAK
lmao.

-Caligula
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#23
Colours

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Join Date: 10/19/2008 | Posts: 566

This topic came up with my wings once. I'm 100% convinced at his done damage to the male-female social dynamic where ever feminism and "women's rights" have taken hold.For example, I was watching the show Mad Men where the men in suits work at a marketing firm in about the 50s. There are women working secretary jobs, but that's about as high as the ladder they can climb. When you watch the guys go to a bar to "game" some girls, the dynamic is very, very clear. The woman needs the man for support. No matter what, that's always the dynamic. 

These days you have companies giving high status jobs to girls based partially on looks (I run a business and know all about this trust me), so they are able to stand alone. It causes the guys of today's generation to lose their place in society. It's all unconcious for most of the male population though, they have no idea why. This is not to say men can't rise above the rift that "women's rights" have caused. Plenty of them are on this forum. I'm just saying it's fucked up the male-female dynamic for the general population. 

Another thing that fascinates me is the pretty girls at college. I go to a big state university and obviously it is bleeding with beautiful girls everywhere. Most of the parents who can send their daughters and sons to college are the ones who have money, right? And if the man had money he probably had a hot wife, who made good looking daughters. So these girls prance around and when you ask them what their major is 8 times out of 10 it is Psychology. My friends and I call it the "pretty girl default major of choice." Now the thing is, we are wholly convinced (through real-life experience) that most of the prettiest ones end up being housewives anyway with a wealthy guy. Don't take these statements as blankets, they are far from. Just some random observations. It really just comes back to the primal nature. Sure, you can throw a hottie through her psych major because the "feminism" movement allowed it, but at the end of the day she's going to get selected by a "high value" guy anyway. 
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#24

da_dude

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Join Date: 07/10/2010 | Posts: 57

Caligula wrote:

Like this analysis a lot. What would you say is the dominant school of thought in feminism today?

-Caligula

That would be Third-Wave Feminism.  I like to call it the feminist buffet.  Choose whatever you like for $7.99.
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Third-wave feminism is a term identified with several diverse strains of feminist activity and study from 1990 to the present. The movement arose as a response to the failures of and backlash against initiatives and movements created by second-wave feminism of c. 1960s through the 1970s and the realization that "women" are of "many colors, ethnicities, nationalities, religions and cultural backgrounds".[1] The third wave embraces contradictions and conflict, and accommodates diversity and change.[1] There is, in this wave, no all-encompassing single feminist idea.[1]


Any man interested in gender role analysis should know about Warren Farrell and Masculism.
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#25

da_dude

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Join Date: 07/10/2010 | Posts: 57

Manwhore wrote:
I really like this.  Seems a good thing to bring up.  Without any kind of base principles or cohesion, its simply women using it to justify anything they want
To be fair to feminists this sort of buffet approach represents a larger trend in humanities that happened in the 80's.  Thinkers like Derrida and Foucalt were all the rage, and the embrace of context dependent truth/pluralism was the thing to do.  I'm all for pluralism but this cultural climate shifted academia from pursuing truth to pursuing political agendas.
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#26
Manwhore

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I actually consider myself a feminist, however it's shifted so far in the other direction (discrimination against males), and I'm always looking for ways to articulate this.  Really enjoyed reading about this warren farrell guy
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#27

YaBoiRayDawg

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should definitely listen to this interview warren did on his book(divided into 19 parts):
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#28
Kire

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Join Date: 03/26/2008 | Posts: 262

It's bullshit at this point and now it's so splintered its starting to work against itself. All crazy nazi feminists hate men: make NO mistake.  Just like the white supremasists hate minorities. It's the same. See I think the hardcore feminists are pissed off at history, and some guy that fucking left them out in the cold or some shit and they've developed their whole lives around those incidents.

If I ever have a kid with some random hood rat, I would want full custody. The types of girls I hook up with are not the same types of women I'd want as the mother of my child.  

I would NEVER get it either, the would take it and make me pay out the ass in child support.
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#29
Red Leader

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Join Date: 08/22/2006 | Posts: 1729

 I think feminism is pretty good

I feel no bad feelings towards it - it doesn't really affect me at all - sure some feminists are about sticking it to the man no matter what and you just have to ignore those, no point to get dragged into any negativity, but I'm all for the empowerment of women or even people - I think the important thing is to look past gender
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#30

da_dude

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Manwhore wrote:
I actually consider myself a feminist, however it's shifted so far in the other direction (discrimination against males), and I'm always looking for ways to articulate this.  Really enjoyed reading about this warren farrell guy
Yeah, there's alot of good within feminism, but most institutions have lost all integrity.  I don't like the whole polarization of gender studies into feminism and masculism.  It should just be gender studies.  But that's how the cookie crumbles.
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