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December 11th, 2016
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IvánPérez

IvánPérez

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""it was great meeting you tonight" = "I am a massive faggot who loves balls"

I do advocate texting them same night but I will always send something that ONLY JEFFY WOULD SEND, to personalize and solidify. Like maybe something about a mullet hair cut and love, or perhaps the classic "you are a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow into a pot of gold." I expect no response, and will follow up hard during the week with other texts designed to start building the "romantic fantasy story" of us together. These texts are not geared in any way towards us meeting up or talking or any of that stuff. The sole purpose is to build me up in her head as the same awesome guy she interacted with in the club. The next morning, hell *I* can barely remember what the fuck happened, how do you expect her to? I am rebuilding that connection and that impression. I'm extremely fucking funny and witty and once I get the sense that they're "popped," then and only then do I start angling for the meetup. This might be instantaneous, or take several months.

One of the guiding principles is this: once I send the packet of emotional information that I want to convey, I do NOT send anything else until she responds. If she doesn't respond, I leave it alone and them send some other shit later on in the week or whatever.

I believe that women often wait to respond to see if the guy will be a faggot and all, "OMG HURRDURR SHE NOT REPODN TO MY TEXT NOW I WILL SEND SOME OTHER GAY SHIT MAKING ME LOOK LIKE A NEEDYFAG." and sure enough, that's what you got sucked into. Guys will often be like OMG she didnt respond, and I'll be like when did you text her? Oh an hour ago. A FUCKING HOUR? REALLY? You can't wait a fucking HOUR before assuming she hates you? People are busy man, most of the time it has nothing to do with you.

An actual cool guy who fucks chicks like her would not send that bullshit you did. He wouldn't even care that she didn't respond, and gone about his life, then followed up later. This is what "abundance" and "unreactivity" are pointing at. You give less of a fuck because you're not desperate for love.

Look, I know it's easy for me to sit here and talk a good game... believe me, when i have a girl I really like, waiting for those return texts seems like an infinity and even I am prone to have these thoughts of OMG SHE ISNT CALLING. But the patient man wins the game... when she does call or return it a few hours or even days later, I always laugh at how insidious and dumb those thoughts are.

The game has rules. They are there to help you. You can either about them and lose, or act within the parameters and score."
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Some principles that have been getting me some success:
- When I'm out: it's me-time. I focus on expressing myself and doing what's fun for me, I don't care about girls. Self-absorbedness.
- 'It's all good, it's going to be fine, I am enough'. No worries or concerns. Let the dynamics work for me.
- Nobody is going to pull girls home for me. Self-image will stop you, take action regardless.
- Focus on finding a girl DTF vs. trying to game/arouse/whatever girl after girl.

IvánPérez.
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Shit.

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true shit.
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FoodBuddha~

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 Exactly.  BE IN YOUR OWN HEADSPACE.

Stop worrying so much what the other guy, or the GIRL is doing or not doing.  Worry about what YOU are doing, and stay in your own headspace, don't get all distracted with hand-wringing.  BE SOLID.
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IvánPérez

IvánPérez

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FoodBuddha~ wrote:
 Exactly.  BE IN YOUR OWN HEADSPACE.

Stop worrying so much what the other guy, or the GIRL is doing or not doing.  Worry about what YOU are doing, and stay in your own headspace, don't get all distracted with hand-wringing.  BE SOLID.
Yeah, I had to mess it up with a few girls to come to this conclusion. I was always more solid in field than with the phone, even with girls that were chasing me hard. I suppose that's because you have something to lose (a number close, a solid interaction, a girl that was into you, etc.) as opposed to when you just met her.

Specially when you aren't working so much girls over the phone (for me it's one at the momment) it takes a lot of mental discipline to stay in your own course. However, I've learnt the lesson and now I feel like when I started to talk and lead girls without relying on IOIs.

I believe that one of the most important weapons in this game (and it's something that can only come from experience, from the feeling that - whether or not it's true - "you've already seen it all") is the ability to keep it cool, to be solid and maintain a non-chalant attitude about things that would fuck up the brain of most people. For example, I remember I started escalating one girl in the club (touching her crotch and shit) and she starts telling me she's on her period and yadayadayada. If I had reacted in any way, shape or form, I wouldn't had closed her. Ultimately, girls want a dude that won't freak out if messy things happen and can keep things normal.
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Some principles that have been getting me some success:
- When I'm out: it's me-time. I focus on expressing myself and doing what's fun for me, I don't care about girls. Self-absorbedness.
- 'It's all good, it's going to be fine, I am enough'. No worries or concerns. Let the dynamics work for me.
- Nobody is going to pull girls home for me. Self-image will stop you, take action regardless.
- Focus on finding a girl DTF vs. trying to game/arouse/whatever girl after girl.

IvánPérez.
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OMAR

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IvánPérez wrote:

Specially when you aren't working so much girls over the phone (for me it's one at the momment) it takes a lot of mental discipline to stay in your own course. However, I've learnt the lesson and now I feel like when I started to talk and lead girls without relying on IOIs.

I believe that one of the most important weapons in this game (and it's something that can only come from experience, from the feeling that - whether or not it's true - "you've already seen it all") is the ability to keep it cool, to be solid and maintain a non-chalant attitude about things that would fuck up the brain of most people
EXACTLYYYYY YEss LOL love noticng this difference cuz its huge indicator of progress
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OMAR wrote:



IvánPérez wrote:

Specially when you aren't working so much girls over the phone (for me it's one at the momment) it takes a lot of mental discipline to stay in your own course. However, I've learnt the lesson and now I feel like when I started to talk and lead girls without relying on IOIs.


Yup, exactly what happened to me last weekend, met  a great girl that I liked. Got he number, send her a text the next morning. No response...will give it another shot maybe next week. If she then doesn't respond...fuck it...her loss :)

But especially if u have 1 girl at the time that you are 'working' and it doesn't go the way you wanted, it can be mindboggling. In these cases I just try to relevate the situation and focus on other things.

Good stuff :)
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Falsetto

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 I actually stopped trying to be cool/fun/interesting on the text and keep shit as short and as simple as possible. Imo in texting less = more.
I don't have this outrageous personallity like Jeffy anyway, so when I started sending girls long interesting, poetic and witty shit it would come across like totally try hard and totally incongruent with the guy they met. But yeah, "it was great meeting you tonight" is gay.
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OMAR

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 Ive had girls respond to me three days later...who i ended up laying obviously. Numbers should not be deleted because of giving up on them. They should only be deleted if you ahve no more room in your phone or they tell u too fuck off.
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 great stuff
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