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I've rarely met guys who didn't want an LTR, as far as I know I'm the only one in my crew who DOES NOT WANT A LTR EVER...

Funny this thread comes up because at this moment I have this solid hottie who basically ticks the box both physically and personality wise. On a spiritual level you can say her consciousness quality is rather higher than normal BUT she knows how I am and is ONLY willing to fool around with me if my intentions is to see if the relationship can grow into exclusivity which down the line would lead to marriage. (along with a kid)

This can't happen though an all my friends say I should just go with it, BUT...
-  A relationship is highly constraining and limiting for me
-  It's selfish of me because now I'm giving the full M.E (Memorable Experience) to only one chick while many are missing out
-  It's not profitable at all...What does a relationship bring me that I don't already have? (It only has limitations)

See I only focus on living my life, while my sex life is just running in the background with all these women coming from different avenues. All women are my friends its just some I have sexual relationships with, I don't really do the traditional community stuff, instead I let them figure out how to win me over and show me why I should focus on them. Meanwhile I just focus on having as much fun as possible while alive.

It's effortless, stress-free and I'm basically giving the "Boyfriend Experience" with no downsides. She lives her life, I live mines, we come together at different points and have a shared experience. If she happens to find a BF that's cool because were still friends and she is welcome to comeback after she breaks up with him. If she doesn't want to have sex that's cool because we can still have fun.

Everyday thousands of hotter, younger, cooler chicks are turning 18 so women aren't going anywhere. There is no need for me to NEED or WANT a specific girl because there will always be more or less better ones. Also my lifestyle is setup where women are just all around me so I get to see a wide range of women at once. I'm picky as fuck but also my way of having fun is being sexual so I fool around with many chicks just for fun. Exclusive relationships would then coin this as cheating. However, chicks I fuck could see this an they understand this is just how I have fun and essentially were just friends anyway. Friendship lasts forever...

P.S...It's funny reading this thread because it was last saturday, I was with the chick who will only have sex if my intentions is to move towards a relationship down the line. The NEXT day while hanging out outside I see this GORGEOUS chick walk by an when I go to talk to her she says my name. I'm stunned that I didn't even remember that I took her # a few days back. Even worst was that I was unaware as to how much this chick wanted me to stick around as she embraced me, telling me about her shitty date and basically told me she's doing nothing at the moment.

P.S.S...The chick I mention really is the best chick I ever met meaning she just slightly missed the bar of being my ideal type. She always is in heels to maintain being 6ft tall around me, she is outgoing/fun to the point where my friends have asked her if she can ever be serious haha, she is either highly bi or bi-curious with a stronger interest in women than men, she is down for fucking adventures. (She meets me after 13hrs of work then goes to work with 2hrs of sleep) Overall she is one of the few chicks who ever had the high quality LOOKS and the amazing positive personality. Just I can't do a relationship an she knows this as she said when I was telling her lets go to her place "...You have sex for FUN, I have sex for RELATIONSHIP" So its best if she remains friends because 30 years from now she'll be in her 50s an I'll still be living my life how I live so all those younger, hotter, cooler chicks will be out there. I wouldn't want to fuck up her path nor change my own.

Single life is where it's at... :)

yes it has worked for me, but its like an old vice. you just have to learn to tame those genes. and the trick is not to "not want her" but, to keep HER wanting YOU. this way you are always in control, and will never feel needy because shell be the one who is always chasing. 

 with the last girl i was with, it was going perfectly, i was in control from the start.
the problem with her was that she didnt want a relationship, but wanted me there all the time and treated me like a BF ALL THE TIME. bitches say one thing, and do the exact opposite.
so me, being the retard that i was, confessed to banging another chick (cuz she asked), and ovbiously it pissed her off. and that triggered my random needy emotions (the old vice came back) and i tripped out cuz she stopped calling, stopped texting, stopped everything. just learn and move on is all i could do. nevre again would i confess like that.

It is my suspicion, most guys aren't getting laid. Most dream about pulling girls and the harder they try, the harder it is. It comes off unnatural, try hard, fabricated, fake, etc. I hope I am wrong.

I suppose it is the carrot on a string mentality. I desire a specific sort of girl. I suppose it is almost a unfair game of cat-mouse. I am extremely picky. It is not enough to get laid. It is not enough to pull. I pull BOMBSHELLS, SMOKE SHOWS or I fail in attempt. I wont settle for the 6s or low caliber girls. Ironically enough, I've been pulling pretty girls but, extremely unattractive personalities. They are enthusiastic party girls, bar stars who want to fuck like wild animals. It is great but, it is a step back in terms of self improvement, "consciousness," and going places in life.

Sometimes, you can be conscious and you can awaken consciousness in others. You can challenge some and they step up to the challenge to better themselves. I find social dynamics exciting. I am interested and intrigued by interactions. I've been pulling like crazy but, I find the more I pull the more I want. It is contradicting the whole overall aspect of what I am trying to do.

I met a girl a few years back. I picked her up in front of her mom in another part of the world. I didn't know about mm or RSD or pick up. I just knew, I pull girls, I am an attractive guy, and I was drawn to her.

I spit game like crazy that day. I've never been more smooth. I didn't know about disarming obstacles or any petty PUA jargon. I didn't use openers. I just portrayed my strong suit. I smiled. I sparked intruiging convo. I won over the mom & she was more then willing to hand me her daughter over on a silver platter.

In retrospect, I had just completed Tony Robbins. I had rewired my way of "being." I didn't just settle for the mental noise or make excuses cause, "she is with her mom." There are no excuses. Its always game time. Men should man up and put their work in. I didn.

What I found was connectivity. Beyond sex appeal, beyond challenge, commonality, intellectual convo - screening as the community calls you feel something more and real.

It was not till recently that it hit. I felt another human beings "being." I felt presence. I experienced something superb. We both did. The truth is that, I got commitment issues. I have even sabbotaged myself before in relationships (ended something quickly or just pushed a girl away). Ended things prematurely and then was too egotistical to actually come back and try again. I have a fear of attachment. Attachment is fine. Being connected with life, people, "being" is okay. Being needy, co-dependent, clingy, overly attached is unattractive. I will never be this person.

For me to settle down, it would take a special girl. Recently, a friend and I had a convo. I was truly fortunate to meet a person who embodies many of the characteristics if not, all of them that I desire in a relationship. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way. Most times, it takes work and effort. It takes growth.

As long as someone is willing to improve, willing to change and your willing to change, there is nothing to stop you two. Sex appeal, physical attraction is important but, so is intelligence, personality, commonality, challenge, etc among a variety of other things.

Right now, I am looking to do me. I am out to improve myself. I will pull girls when I get out. I am not looking for a wifey. I got more wood to lay but, one day, I will settle down when I know it is right. The more  one searches for "the one" the further it gets away. Not willing to chase a carrot at the end of a string. Out to put my work in. If something happens during this journey, I will run with it. Cheers mate

Hey man, I hope I am wrong. I hope guys for the most part aren't jockying all over. Who knows.

The thing is that, when you settle for a sub par girl, you never feel fullfilled. You know you settled and you feel bad about. You also give her false hope of something more. Your the best thing that can into her world and even if she was just sucking your dick, she still wants more. She wants you being there and you'll notice you her starting out opening up, telling you her problems, and so on. If you don't masturbate * NO HOMO * it is my experience, you will finally get fed up and go out to pull. Can you imagine an animal just tugging away on it like it owed them money? Its absurd. It wants to fuck, it goes out to fuck. I've never been one to just settle and fuck some fatty. I know friends or friends of friends who have. Its like, "where is your pride/self respect man?"

Smoke show/Bombshell = gorgeous girl - physically & personally - wifey



I began using it when a girl called me a "smoke show" one night out with some girls. Kept feeling my muscles and telling me hot gorgeous and how great my personality was. I told her she is making my head even bigger then it already is.

It was not till recently man that it hit me about "being."

A great portion of my life was spent in my head. I would fight, drink, smoke weed, party & then, the night would end with someone pulling me off someone for something petty.

I was boxing, kick boxing and doing martial arts but, it only furthered a desire to fight.

I eventually read Tony Robbins' book, awaken the giant within. I stopped accepting the mental noise in my head. I started asking myself better questions and realizing what I thought was strength and toughness is really cowardness masked in non-sense. Anyone can throw hands. It takes a bigger man to walk away. Shortly after I read this book, I met the girl of my dreams. I had a mini crush on a girl at work. It wasn't anything serious but, I wasn't looking for a relationship. I wasn't looking period. I saw a young girl with an amazing style, she was really pretty, well spoken, had a sweet accent, intelligent, commonality, and was challenging. I picked her up in front of her mom actually. I never knew about the community or game. Throughout my life, I found myself attracting girls. I found girls give me attention solely based upon how I look. I can't explain it man. There were tons of people in the room. Over hundreds but, I felt this pull towards her. She was always with her mother though and I couldn't wait any longer. I just mingled. I spoke to both originally the mother first and more so. The mother liked me so much, she handed her daughter over to me on a silver plater. I've never been more articulate or smooth in my life. I was feeling "presence," "being" & on a whole other level. It took me three days but, we got together.

Sex appeal, physical attraction, sexual chemistry is every where man. You just got to put yourself in the right spot. That just clicked man. You can't fake that. I was drawn to her. Over the past while, I've contemplated on how it came about. I've picked up a ton throughout my life but, this was some how different? I read Dan Millman's books and began understanding a little more. Ecky put the last piece of the puzzle together for me.

Honestly man, I would trade a million skanks and lays for that caliber of girl I told you about I pulled. I make girls think. I can add value and have intellectual convo - screening as the community says. I do that naturally. In doing that with this girl when we got some alone time, we found we had much in common and it wasn't faking it or pretending to like the things she desired. Unfortunately, she is from around here. When I was away, she travelled across the country to visit me. We live our lives but, it was an awesome experience. There are quality women out there. Do not hate. Do not run away.

There were girls I could have pulled who would have been much easier however, I would not have had this experience. The past few years, I have not met a girl of that caliber again. The problem too is rationalizing. The more you think, the more it leaves you. You can't find peace or look for "enlightenment." You just feel it. You embody it bro.

All the lays in the community from reading "the game" be it fake or not, the guys were all seeking something more. SOme turned to religion. Others turned to a serious relationship or a business or something else. Its constant filling voids man. "Fill my cup." - TD

Think about what you want man. What do you want? Lets say the majorit in the community aren't pulling but, they are not socially inept any more. Some can converse with girls unlike before. Few pull but, pull low caliber girls. Lets say, a very few select guys are pulling high caliber girls, what keeps them going back for more? Its like a helium balloon. Its sinking and you know its coming. Its that carrot on a string mentality. For me, I am looking to build my self up. Get educated. Save for my future family. I am going to travel more of the world not that, I haven't seen a lot already. I am going to pull girls. It is a given. I know. For me, she needs to be "conscious." SHe needs to be improving her self other wise, everything I am doing is all a waste. I could have picked a million or out of a billion diff girls minus the enviornment and what is around. I choose a high caliber girl. I could have choosen some easy girl. Instead, I choose the harder root.

Think about it bro? If she isn't in touch with her "being," her self concept, if she is like most, caught up in form, in insecurities, her victim card - you got to pick up alll the slack. Challenge the girls man. I still pull but, its second nature. Long term, I want the wifey kinda girl. Till then, I will have fun. You should too.