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My life:
I was supposed to meet this cute blond girl tonight, 9 for me. An hour before the meeting she texts: "Had to go to work. How about friday?" We have postponed this for 2 weeks now. She´s shy. And shy girls seem interested and go with what you suggest. But you never really know if they like you after all, right? Well, let´s see.
Change in Attitude:
I watched an interview of Manwhore. He said that when he was young he always believed he was a pimp. I realized that makes sense.
If I don´t think that way I will always think I am a chode who just did some moves correctly to get the girl.
As I had a hot moment on the dancefloor with the hottest girl in the bar a week ago, I didn´t feel like I deserved her.
No way to get better at this. Having a pimp ego is good.
Field reports:
I´ve been lazy and haven´t written down important nights. I think it´s very useful to write down events when they´re still fresh. I remember more details: why I was awesome. Why I sucked.
Anyway, 4 nights in a row, here´s what I remember:
Thursday 4-21 2011
Infected Mushroom gig. Alone. Sober.
I did not approach. I got a few AIs though. I was very relaxed and had a blast jumping on and screaming on the gig by myself, hah. I walked around thinking
of approaching but didn´t. It felt like it was too loud and going up to talk to girls just felt too uncomfortable. So I left. Good gig but disappointed that I didn´t talk to any girl.
Friday 4-22 2011
Ale Pub. With 2 friends. Drunk.
I drank my wine at home with the dudes. I was not really drunk but had fun anyway. I did not feel too great physically which ruins my game
completely. Maybe because of that or because of something else (obviously drunk?) I did not get any girl to dance with me. Every girl refused to dance with me.
I always tend to blame my looks (=health) when this happens. I don´t know if it is really true. But keeping myself as healthy-looking as possible definitely pays off
so no need to worry about that more than that.
I approached once but it went badly too.
Bad night. Let´s move on.
Saturday 4-23 2011
Barfly. With 1 friend. Sober.
I felt fucking awesome. The place filled with only hot girls that looked really fuckin hot to me (horniness level increased again = great!).
I was very relaxed, solid eye contact with everyone when needed.
I went to do the first mandatory approach, talked to a girl by herself. Introduced myself. A guy came in, the girl turned to him. I walked off.
It´s just to get me off the spectator mode.
Now I was on. Blabbing my mouth off to my wing. Not approaching though.
We went to the dancefloor. I had a blast there. I genuinely did not care and had fun. Every song sounded great.
Girls kept coming next to us but I was not sure of
a) if the girl really wants me to make a move
b) how I would do it
because the dancefloor requires momentum too.
SO I did not approach and kept trying to have fun anyway.
I was trying to come up with a decent way to open the girls on the dancefloor without getting the "What are you doing!" reaction.
A normal way.
I could not find a way to do that.
Solution:
--> I just need to do a few akward approaches to get going.
If I get bad reactions I must not let them affect me and not let those bad thought
patterns control me.
I am a pimp.
Some girl will realize that. I have to trust myself.
On the other hand if you approach badly all the time...
Well...
When I am horny and present I love to just stare at girl (from any direction) while thinking in my mind:
"Mmmm.. I´d love to get some of that."
Strange enough, many times when I do that, they appear close to me pretty soon.
girls have a weird 360 vision.
This happened on the dancefloor tonight and saved my night.
I had unapologetically stared my favourite girl of the night. She had clearly noticed it.
About an hour later she wondered on the df and walked almost straight into my lap.
I grabbd her hand and started grinding.
Foreheads touch and she starts eating my face (bad makeout, I keep breaking it but she wants more. Again I break it but she wants more and I give
it to her. Finally she breaks it, damn. )
We keep dancing and I feel her ass and all. I´m pretty badly in my head thinking how do I deal with this.
I talk to her a bit but..I decide to just keep dancing and not worry. That´s what other guys here are doing succesfully.
She leaves after 5 mins "I have to find my friends."
I´m very happy anyway cause I was pretty sure that was going to happen and she was so hot I just enjoyed grabbing her trimmed ass.
Validated for the night.
Next time:
- try to move her to the bar to get water. Or to a sofa to make out.
Approaching felt still hard cause I had not really built momentum.
I did 2 sets anyway:
1) 2 girls on a sofa. Other looked at me. I approached 2 mins later. Total disinterest from both. Yet they answer my questions bored. I keep plowing with
boring stuff and with very awkward vibe. I don´t care. I need to stay there to learn.
Finally I eject with a playful "Ok, I´ll have some mercy on you"
and straight to
2) a really drunk blond (9). I´m doing a lot better right away, heh. She stares at me hard(window of opportunity?).
I tell her she´s a nasty girl, right? (trying to get this sexual stuff into my interactions)
"No I´m not" (offended.) (missed the window?)
I tell her "Let´s go find your friend." (claw)
She says "I have to go here but I´ll see you on the dancefloor in a bit ok?
I was pretty sure it was an excuse.
And it was.
Important experience anyway. (I had only had bad experiences in this bar filled with hot 18-yo girls.)
I feel I´m getting better with my approaches when I´m sober. A lot more comfortable.
And girls clearly like me more when I´m sober. In every situation.
More updating tomorrow..
I was supposed to meet this cute blond girl tonight, 9 for me. An hour before the meeting she texts: "Had to go to work. How about friday?" We have postponed this for 2 weeks now. She´s shy. And shy girls seem interested and go with what you suggest. But you never really know if they like you after all, right? Well, let´s see.
Change in Attitude:
I watched an interview of Manwhore. He said that when he was young he always believed he was a pimp. I realized that makes sense.
If I don´t think that way I will always think I am a chode who just did some moves correctly to get the girl.
As I had a hot moment on the dancefloor with the hottest girl in the bar a week ago, I didn´t feel like I deserved her.
No way to get better at this. Having a pimp ego is good.
Field reports:
I´ve been lazy and haven´t written down important nights. I think it´s very useful to write down events when they´re still fresh. I remember more details: why I was awesome. Why I sucked.
Anyway, 4 nights in a row, here´s what I remember:
Thursday 4-21 2011
Infected Mushroom gig. Alone. Sober.
I did not approach. I got a few AIs though. I was very relaxed and had a blast jumping on and screaming on the gig by myself, hah. I walked around thinking
of approaching but didn´t. It felt like it was too loud and going up to talk to girls just felt too uncomfortable. So I left. Good gig but disappointed that I didn´t talk to any girl.
Friday 4-22 2011
Ale Pub. With 2 friends. Drunk.
I drank my wine at home with the dudes. I was not really drunk but had fun anyway. I did not feel too great physically which ruins my game
completely. Maybe because of that or because of something else (obviously drunk?) I did not get any girl to dance with me. Every girl refused to dance with me.
I always tend to blame my looks (=health) when this happens. I don´t know if it is really true. But keeping myself as healthy-looking as possible definitely pays off
so no need to worry about that more than that.
I approached once but it went badly too.
Bad night. Let´s move on.
Saturday 4-23 2011
Barfly. With 1 friend. Sober.
I felt fucking awesome. The place filled with only hot girls that looked really fuckin hot to me (horniness level increased again = great!).
I was very relaxed, solid eye contact with everyone when needed.
I went to do the first mandatory approach, talked to a girl by herself. Introduced myself. A guy came in, the girl turned to him. I walked off.
It´s just to get me off the spectator mode.
Now I was on. Blabbing my mouth off to my wing. Not approaching though.
We went to the dancefloor. I had a blast there. I genuinely did not care and had fun. Every song sounded great.
Girls kept coming next to us but I was not sure of
a) if the girl really wants me to make a move
b) how I would do it
because the dancefloor requires momentum too.
SO I did not approach and kept trying to have fun anyway.
I was trying to come up with a decent way to open the girls on the dancefloor without getting the "What are you doing!" reaction.
A normal way.
I could not find a way to do that.
Solution:
--> I just need to do a few akward approaches to get going.
If I get bad reactions I must not let them affect me and not let those bad thought
patterns control me.
I am a pimp.
Some girl will realize that. I have to trust myself.
On the other hand if you approach badly all the time...
Well...
When I am horny and present I love to just stare at girl (from any direction) while thinking in my mind:
"Mmmm.. I´d love to get some of that."
Strange enough, many times when I do that, they appear close to me pretty soon.
girls have a weird 360 vision.
This happened on the dancefloor tonight and saved my night.
I had unapologetically stared my favourite girl of the night. She had clearly noticed it.
About an hour later she wondered on the df and walked almost straight into my lap.
I grabbd her hand and started grinding.
Foreheads touch and she starts eating my face (bad makeout, I keep breaking it but she wants more. Again I break it but she wants more and I give
it to her. Finally she breaks it, damn. )
We keep dancing and I feel her ass and all. I´m pretty badly in my head thinking how do I deal with this.
I talk to her a bit but..I decide to just keep dancing and not worry. That´s what other guys here are doing succesfully.
She leaves after 5 mins "I have to find my friends."
I´m very happy anyway cause I was pretty sure that was going to happen and she was so hot I just enjoyed grabbing her trimmed ass.
Validated for the night.
Next time:
- try to move her to the bar to get water. Or to a sofa to make out.
Approaching felt still hard cause I had not really built momentum.
I did 2 sets anyway:
1) 2 girls on a sofa. Other looked at me. I approached 2 mins later. Total disinterest from both. Yet they answer my questions bored. I keep plowing with
boring stuff and with very awkward vibe. I don´t care. I need to stay there to learn.
Finally I eject with a playful "Ok, I´ll have some mercy on you"
and straight to
2) a really drunk blond (9). I´m doing a lot better right away, heh. She stares at me hard(window of opportunity?).
I tell her she´s a nasty girl, right? (trying to get this sexual stuff into my interactions)
"No I´m not" (offended.) (missed the window?)
I tell her "Let´s go find your friend." (claw)
She says "I have to go here but I´ll see you on the dancefloor in a bit ok?
I was pretty sure it was an excuse.
And it was.
Important experience anyway. (I had only had bad experiences in this bar filled with hot 18-yo girls.)
I feel I´m getting better with my approaches when I´m sober. A lot more comfortable.
And girls clearly like me more when I´m sober. In every situation.
More updating tomorrow..
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
dude, you're focusing too much on state and momentum. those are just properties. You got to be more persistent in your sets. Make them blow you out or suck your dick, and then go back and study what you did right and wrong, and learn more about women. Ultimately, calibration is the name of the game, but if you're too scared to push it, then you'll never know what it is nor the core confidence that comes with it.
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dude, you're focusing too much on state and momentum. those are just properties. You got to be more persistent in your sets. Make them blow you out or suck your dick, and then go back and study what you did right and wrong, and learn more about women. Ultimately, calibration is the name of the game, but if you're too scared to push it, then you'll never know what it is nor the core confidence that comes with it.
Thanks, I agree with being more persistent.I also think momentum and state matter very much when my biggest problems STILL are
a) approaching and b) talking for longer than 30 seconds in a set.
Although I guess you can stay in set without saying a thing as long as you are not needy (I used to look for the next set while standing in the previous set and sometimes
the girls started asking me questions. I guess that might help a bit.)
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
Why I have been awesome
I noticed I have started to lose the confidence I had for the last 2-3 weeks where
I was super comfortable being sober in the club and I really trusted in myself.
So before I forget I´d better write down the things that were behind this..well.. new me:
- felt awesome both physically and mentally (which is pretty much enough. Everything else is outer game.)
- horny as fuck and very happy about it
- super chill approach Brad style: (like he goes in the end of this video www.rsdnation.com/brad/blog/secret-infield-footage-real-social-dynamics-bootcamp-brad-branson )
- talk from as deep as I can ( it´s natural, a by-product of physical relaxation, awesome way to keep value super high)
- actual muscles (I feel hot as fuck, hah = entitlement!)
- present eye contact ( = not going in my head the second I have eye contact with someone, a by-product of physical relaxation)
- outside my head as the default state (comes from basic physical health, using the brain, being active and not just sitting around passively, and once again a by-product of physical relaxation)
- actually using my brain during weeks so I can focus on things for more than 10 seconds (school assignments). Makes me more present and high value. Being dumb is not too high value..
- keeping my life in order (daily tasks that I actually do as I have decided, keeping my apartment clean, have good grooming all the time)
- trust that I will approach every time I´m out for the rest of my life (or at least as long as necessary :) , 30 second game right away when I enter the club)
- genuine. Truly genuine www.youtube.com/watch , www.youtube.com/watch I did not know Johnny Depp got nervous, ever. I think he shows that it´s enough that girls know you have the confidence when needed. He seems shy here but we all know that he is the man. I think this shyness only makes him, well not that I want to sound gay but, kinda adorable, heh. I like him :)
Kinda reminds how I am at school. Do stuff on my own, a bit shy, nice to people, no need to impress anyone.
There might be more things. I shall update the list if needed.
Anyway,
All this leads to the cliche:
You are enough.
When I approach, that´s how I feel.
Zero doubt about it just like when Brad goes in.
And it works. You gotta love reference experiences :)
I noticed I have started to lose the confidence I had for the last 2-3 weeks where
I was super comfortable being sober in the club and I really trusted in myself.
So before I forget I´d better write down the things that were behind this..well.. new me:
- felt awesome both physically and mentally (which is pretty much enough. Everything else is outer game.)
- horny as fuck and very happy about it
- super chill approach Brad style: (like he goes in the end of this video www.rsdnation.com/brad/blog/secret-infield-footage-real-social-dynamics-bootcamp-brad-branson )
- talk from as deep as I can ( it´s natural, a by-product of physical relaxation, awesome way to keep value super high)
- actual muscles (I feel hot as fuck, hah = entitlement!)
- present eye contact ( = not going in my head the second I have eye contact with someone, a by-product of physical relaxation)
- outside my head as the default state (comes from basic physical health, using the brain, being active and not just sitting around passively, and once again a by-product of physical relaxation)
- actually using my brain during weeks so I can focus on things for more than 10 seconds (school assignments). Makes me more present and high value. Being dumb is not too high value..
- keeping my life in order (daily tasks that I actually do as I have decided, keeping my apartment clean, have good grooming all the time)
- trust that I will approach every time I´m out for the rest of my life (or at least as long as necessary :) , 30 second game right away when I enter the club)
- genuine. Truly genuine www.youtube.com/watch , www.youtube.com/watch I did not know Johnny Depp got nervous, ever. I think he shows that it´s enough that girls know you have the confidence when needed. He seems shy here but we all know that he is the man. I think this shyness only makes him, well not that I want to sound gay but, kinda adorable, heh. I like him :)
Kinda reminds how I am at school. Do stuff on my own, a bit shy, nice to people, no need to impress anyone.
There might be more things. I shall update the list if needed.
Anyway,
All this leads to the cliche:
You are enough.
When I approach, that´s how I feel.
Zero doubt about it just like when Brad goes in.
And it works. You gotta love reference experiences :)
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
My Life:
I´ve been depressed as fuck for monday and tuesday (It´s wednesday now) and it´s almost the same today. Why?
I hope it´s just the lack of sleep (a night of 2-3 hours) but anyway... here we go.. the massive analysing of why I lost motivation to life and everything all of a sudden. And how to avoid it:
Before that:
Sunday May 8th 2011
I haven´t had sex since February so it´s been almost 3 months. I´ve been very horny for 2-3 weeks and I feel like I´m gonna lose my mind if I don´t get it soon.
FR (Day 2)
I had a day2 with the cutest girl ever on friday. She´s small, blond, so cute and nice. It went nicely, she came to my place from the bar. We sat on the couch and talked for 15 minutes, I made my move I said "You know what I wanna do now?" (put my arm around her to start making out) and she just froze up. I backed off a bit but kept my arm around her. She said "That just really came out of nowhere. I wasn´t expecting that. I´m not an easy girl, I´m shy."
I was not sure if she really was so naive to come to my apartment and expected nothing to happen OR if she was testing me. I decided I won´t be blown out for not trying (which has happened so many times before) so I tried a few more times but she seemed super uncomfortable and cold every time. (Yet she kept asking about my life and was very ennthusiastic.) I decided to change topics and did the Cube on her. I like it and she got a bit excited about it too.
Anyway, she had to leave at 10 PM and I escorted her to the door. She asked me "So you like to see many girls?" "Well, yeah." Ok, I do that when I´m single." (What does that mean??!)
As she was trying to open the door she realized it was locked, I tried to go for the kiss one more time saying "I´m not gonna let you go without a kiss" She completely panicked. So I opened the door and let her out. She stood at the door and I said "Ok, well get back to this later." she said "Yeah". It was a bit awkward.
I´ve called her on monday and tuesday. No answer. I guess that´s one thing that´s depressing me since now I have 0 numbers once again and I don´t want to go out. And I feel like I messed up such a good chance once again.
Well, I have to trust in the fact that I will get new girls.
(edit: I just called her again 3rd day in a row. No answer. I texted her: " Hey chess master (we played chess at the bar, she won). I guess you don´t want to answer. I understand, I made you uncomfortable on my "creepy man" moments. Otherwise it was quite nice. Anyways, If you´re thinking the same, get back to me. If not, well I guess that´s alright and I wish you a nice a summer
".
She called me right away and suggested to meet. So nice.)
Anyway I need to learn not to be this much emotionally dependent on getting a girl and losing a girl. Going to 100 and falling down to 0 when she does´nt want to see me.
I can´t ever seem to think my way out of this problem since it gets me to depression every time. So I guess the cure is to have a zillion numbers and actually getting further with many girls and get confidence from there. And ALSO practice getting SNLs while doing this. It has to be both. Otherwise my confidence with girls is made up, not a fact.
Aaargh, I´m such a slow writer that I once again have to finish this later.. it´s a really relevant bit too. I got laid but it messed me up..
..continued..
So I did get laid. But it was my "fb". I can´t really call her that since I´ve seen her only 2 times since we first met half a year ago. Anyway, I love to have her as a backup. It´s nice to know that at least one girl is willing to have sex with me. Yeah, it´s kinda funny.. she also reminds me that sometimes you run into the right girls who are down right away like she was from the beginning.
I´ve been depressed as fuck for monday and tuesday (It´s wednesday now) and it´s almost the same today. Why?
I hope it´s just the lack of sleep (a night of 2-3 hours) but anyway... here we go.. the massive analysing of why I lost motivation to life and everything all of a sudden. And how to avoid it:
Before that:
Sunday May 8th 2011
I haven´t had sex since February so it´s been almost 3 months. I´ve been very horny for 2-3 weeks and I feel like I´m gonna lose my mind if I don´t get it soon.
FR (Day 2)
I had a day2 with the cutest girl ever on friday. She´s small, blond, so cute and nice. It went nicely, she came to my place from the bar. We sat on the couch and talked for 15 minutes, I made my move I said "You know what I wanna do now?" (put my arm around her to start making out) and she just froze up. I backed off a bit but kept my arm around her. She said "That just really came out of nowhere. I wasn´t expecting that. I´m not an easy girl, I´m shy."
I was not sure if she really was so naive to come to my apartment and expected nothing to happen OR if she was testing me. I decided I won´t be blown out for not trying (which has happened so many times before) so I tried a few more times but she seemed super uncomfortable and cold every time. (Yet she kept asking about my life and was very ennthusiastic.) I decided to change topics and did the Cube on her. I like it and she got a bit excited about it too.
Anyway, she had to leave at 10 PM and I escorted her to the door. She asked me "So you like to see many girls?" "Well, yeah." Ok, I do that when I´m single." (What does that mean??!)
As she was trying to open the door she realized it was locked, I tried to go for the kiss one more time saying "I´m not gonna let you go without a kiss" She completely panicked. So I opened the door and let her out. She stood at the door and I said "Ok, well get back to this later." she said "Yeah". It was a bit awkward.
I´ve called her on monday and tuesday. No answer. I guess that´s one thing that´s depressing me since now I have 0 numbers once again and I don´t want to go out. And I feel like I messed up such a good chance once again.
Well, I have to trust in the fact that I will get new girls.
(edit: I just called her again 3rd day in a row. No answer. I texted her: " Hey chess master (we played chess at the bar, she won). I guess you don´t want to answer. I understand, I made you uncomfortable on my "creepy man" moments. Otherwise it was quite nice. Anyways, If you´re thinking the same, get back to me. If not, well I guess that´s alright and I wish you a nice a summer
".She called me right away and suggested to meet. So nice.)
Anyway I need to learn not to be this much emotionally dependent on getting a girl and losing a girl. Going to 100 and falling down to 0 when she does´nt want to see me.
I can´t ever seem to think my way out of this problem since it gets me to depression every time. So I guess the cure is to have a zillion numbers and actually getting further with many girls and get confidence from there. And ALSO practice getting SNLs while doing this. It has to be both. Otherwise my confidence with girls is made up, not a fact.
Aaargh, I´m such a slow writer that I once again have to finish this later.. it´s a really relevant bit too. I got laid but it messed me up..
..continued..
So I did get laid. But it was my "fb". I can´t really call her that since I´ve seen her only 2 times since we first met half a year ago. Anyway, I love to have her as a backup. It´s nice to know that at least one girl is willing to have sex with me. Yeah, it´s kinda funny.. she also reminds me that sometimes you run into the right girls who are down right away like she was from the beginning.
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
Dude as for your last FR it sounds like you flipped the script on this ho. Like you started off all gay and dickless and then suddenly you reminded her you have a cock. When I am wiht a chick, she knows I am a sexual dude. It's not like I suddenly "make my move" because the whole time I am being sexual in my own way.
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Boning in parking lots journal:
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Skeet skeet skeet
Naw thats tha other mayne
'cause my skeet never leak
out this rubber mayne
T&A ain't worth a nigga DNA
-Ice Cube
www.rsdnation.com/node/147143
Skeet skeet skeet
Naw thats tha other mayne
'cause my skeet never leak
out this rubber mayne
T&A ain't worth a nigga DNA
-Ice Cube
Dude as for your last FR it sounds like you flipped the script on this ho. Like you started off all gay and dickless and then suddenly you reminded her you have a cock. When I am wiht a chick, she knows I am a sexual dude. It's not like I suddenly "make my move" because the whole time I am being sexual in my own way.
Thanks dude. I thought about that and yes it´s very gay to wait and then make a move and hope for the best. It´s necessary to make it sexual the whole time on D2s. I just did not know how. From now on more sexual stuff in conversations like basic nasty humour, more thinking about sex while talking about the weather with more sexual eye contact. All in all being ready for it all the time and making sure she knows what´s ahead.
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
That´s Brad right? The second from the left. Self love.
My life
Summer arrived finally. I travelled to Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas. I had some major epiphanies there and started to feel like I
have to do something big in my life. I saw these movie star homes, lifestyles, the Hearst mansion that he had built for 27 years. I realized my life is just
walking to get groceries and sit at home. What the fuck. I´m gonna get money. Buy a sweet house with awesome decoration and a car just like I want. Have sex with girls in my
lovely house and maybe make music and achieve my dreams in some way. Maybe do all that in San Francisco. I loved that place.
Now that I´m back here in the north in Finland again, I realize it´s so hard to break away from my routines and make that dream happen. Because I have to work.
Anyway. With one of my dreams I´m taking action now harder than ever.
And that´s abundance with girls. I´m going for it now.
I realized going to work 5 days a week and waiting for the weekend sucks so bad. I had to go out more than 2 times a week.
So I finally tried the Brad thing -> Go out 6 nights a week. Sleep during the day. Go out for 2 hours. Sleep 2 hours and go to work.
There´s a million bad things about it like being sleepy and tired in the club every night and looking like I just woke up but fuck that. It´s better than not doing it.
FR
Really fast as I´m busy.
I came back from the trip with good tan and I looked healthy again otherwise too.
That stuff helps when your game sucks. I think that´s why I got better results than usually.
Saturday 4.6.2011
Got drunk. I don´t remember anymore. I gotta write these at least once per 2 weeks.
Sunday 5.6.2011
Sober. With a friend. Tiger - the most high class club here. Started with 30 second game. Went to talk to hot blonde at 30 sec and ejected right away. Went downstairs
to a mixed group where the girl was just nicely sitting on the edge of the sofa so I could go in. I tapped on the shoulder and shaked her hand. She smiled very happily and stared at me while I shook her hand (yeah, she was a bit drunk, not much). I was surprised to get a warm welcome like that in a club like this.
I was in a logical mode (just telling myself: be high value, stay in the set as long as possible, try to pull) and just talked basic stuff with her. She started to lose interest a bit
and asked the guy in front of us (sitting on a table) to go to dance. I started to look elsewhere but refused to leave.
She invited me to come and sit next her. Great.
I still had trouble talking. I chose not to care. I´ll just sit here and try to pull. I asked the logistic questions but I did not know what to do then. I should have asked her to go dance
or moved her somewhere. Then maybe go grab some pizza and take her home.
I had to leave for the last bus and I asked her to join me and of course she would not. I did not bother asking for her number. I should have. She was really cute. Just my type. I thought there
are going to a million girls like her..
Monday 6.6.2011
Baarikärpänen. Sober. I did 2 2-sets. 10-second sets as they were the first ones and they did not talk back to me much.
Then at 1 am I went into my last set. She loved me right away and started running the conversation. We talked about why I´m sober here. I managed to get the friend involved too.
I decided to go for the number and leave. I was very happy with my results for this night and went home a happy man :)
Tuesday
I have to have 1 a day off to keep my life in order ie. take out the trash and stuff :)
I have no time for anything other than working, eating, sleeping and going out.
Wednesday 8.6.2011
Amarillo. With 1 friend. Sober.
The bar was full. I did a few sets I think. I don´t remember.
Thursday 9.6.2011
Ale Pub. Sober. I friend.
Quite empty. 1 girl (maybe a 7, tall and not slim, not fat either) stared at me. I decided to go in (warm approaches have been a problem for me until now)
Akward conversation but I think she is down tonite. Her friend comes. Fattie. I stay in set without anything to say. Finally I eject and think I will be back later. They disappeared later.
30 seconds on the dance floor. I go to a 2-set. Hottie and fattie. They like me and tell they are 18. It goes well until she guesses my age. She guesses 21 (?!) I finally tell her I´m 27.
She gets really disappointed and seems disgusted by me. I call her out on being so negative and all depressed. It helps a bit.
Anyway, she does not seem to like me anymore. I try to move her. No go. I ask her number anyway. She gives it to me (why?).
I´m glad cause she was very hot (23, saying 18 was a joke).
Lessons from going out this far:
- saying 27 is bad. I´m 25 from now on.
- don´t tell them my real job. I tell them I work in insurance business. High value and nobody wants to know about it.
Friday 10.6.2011
to be continued..
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"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
My life
I just wrote a long text here but managed to delete it. Fuck.
It said. Get muscles. Jersey Shore muscles. Alexander, Drama, Ambiguity, Madison muscles. Then start going out every night.
So I quit the "go out every night for the summer" thing. I´ll get back to it though and now keep going out at least 2 nights a week.
LR: Pretty Boy Game
Friday 1.7.2011
Baarikärpänen, with a friend
I always keep saying that my success with girls is all about how healthy I look. Yes, it´s fucking chode.
Anyway.. I´m both bitter and thankful for this fact.
I think much thanks to this (I think) I got to see a new girl naked for the first time since February:
So, Tonight, I had eaten some REAL strawberries and a peach which both make me look oh so pretty. And I noticed the difference in the club too.
But I felt fucking chody all night. No motivation. No balls to approach.
We drank 3 drinks and chatted with my friend. I felt pretty good.
I started grinding one girl on the dancefloor (expecting to be rejected since last time I was out I got rejected about 30 times on the dancefloor,
I hate how long lasting effects rejections have on me), she let me but I ejected cause I felt uncomfortable and not horny at all.
After a long time wasted on the dancefloor we went to sit down on a sofa. It was probably about 1 o´clock and we were 2 depressed chodes in the corner.
The girl on the left side looked at me, seemed like an approach invitation. Nope can´t do it.
Finally 2 girls come and sit right next to us. I decide it´s fucking time to start.
I poke at her (shes and 8, 19yo, really short skirt, the nice hot summer look) and say "HI, how´s it going?" (I Introduce myself to her fat friend too.)
It seems like she came to sit there on purpose and she starts to ask me questions right away. Great.
Awkward conversation.
She says they are from Porvoo and visiting Helsinki.
I remember the golden rule for SNL and ask after 2 minutes (to screen for logistics and to bring sex on the table):
"So are you guys going back to Porvoo tonight?"
"Well, I´m not sure. we have a car, if I get too drunk I probably won´t go back there"
Great.
I see 2 girls making out against a wall and groping each other hotter than ever. I´m loving it and express this to her and ask
her if she´s ever tried (making the conversation sexual easily). She has. She asks if I have or have any interest that way.
Nope, not really.
Anyway, I´m too tired or whatever to keep a normal conversation going so I give up after about 3 minutes.
We decide to move somewhere else in the bar since it seems too hard to have a normal conversation witha girl tonight.
We dance for hours. It´s 2.55 AM and we decide we´ll leave at 3 AM. I decide I will make one more move on the dance floor.
I see the previous girl 3 meters from me. There´s people between us but I decide to push through and offer my arm to her.
She takes it and comes to dance with me. I spin her around and she is complying and obeing everything I want. She turns around if I want to etc.
She seems to try to guess what I want and do it right away to please me. Never had this kind of compliance.
I kiss her on the neck. We keep dancing.
I take her to get drinks. I realize I´m really nervous for some reason, hah.
She wants to go back to dance. Now for the first time ever I get to experience what I witness every weekend:
she takes my hand and leads me in the dancefloor. Yes!
We keep dancing. We don´t talk, yet it seems like she is not going anywhere from me.
It´s 3.20 pm. I decide to try the Pizza move this time (since last time I just said "Let´s go", the girl stopped me right before the door of the bar and I ended up home empty handed).
So: "I´m hungry (not really). Are You?"
"No"
"Let´s go and eat."
"Ok :) "
She seems really happy and tells her friend that we´re going to eat.
The most popular song of the summer, which I hate, is playing as we walk towards the door. I don´t hate that song anymore :)
Outside I tell her the pizza place is near, we´re going with a bus. 5 minutes. She says ok.
I´m taking it slow. This time I don´t have trouble keeping my state positive and talkative at the time of the pull since I made the realization that
knowing I might get her naked in my bed very much cheers me up, heh.
We talk basic stuff, school etc. I throw my bachelor party planning topic (which is true now, hahaa). It´s an awesome topic for bars.
We go and get the pizza, take it to go and walk across the street to my place (Yes, I´m lucky to have a pizza place right in front of my building)
Still no signs of regret or hesitation from her. Nice.
We arrive to my place, eat some pizza. Just slowly. I go to the bathroom.
I come back to the room. The radio is on so I think hmm.. I´ll dance with her for a while, escalate that way. I go to take her hand.
She gives her hand and looks into my eyes smiling.
I realize she wants it now.
This pull happened without any problems this far and it kept going the same miraculously easy way since she
gave no LMR and when I started undressing her pants she helped me and took her panties off at with same pull :)
She made the whole experience so easy and natural.
And she was a girl who really enjoyed sex. I love those girls.
One last nice detail to remember: for a long time I´ve been wanting to shove my dick in the girl´s mouth as soon as I get her in bed.
I did not remember it this time but I was standing on my knees on the bed with my boxers on. She started to feel my boner and play with it through
my boxers. Nice. Then she took them down and mmm..
So I kinda did it. Or she did :)
I really needed this. My goal for this summer was to have sexxx with one of those mini skirt/jeans girls. I love them.
They are so hot in the summer and have seemed like a dream to me this far.
I did it!
Now I realize that for the first time I´m in a situation where I got the SNL with a girl and she still likes me.
Let´s see what happens..
Btw
What I learned from this:
- every time Pizza extraction, keep it safe, no risks
- running the train with girls who liked you is always good for attraction
- trying one more girl before leaving can lead to a lay
I just wrote a long text here but managed to delete it. Fuck.
It said. Get muscles. Jersey Shore muscles. Alexander, Drama, Ambiguity, Madison muscles. Then start going out every night.
So I quit the "go out every night for the summer" thing. I´ll get back to it though and now keep going out at least 2 nights a week.
LR: Pretty Boy Game
Friday 1.7.2011
Baarikärpänen, with a friend
I always keep saying that my success with girls is all about how healthy I look. Yes, it´s fucking chode.
Anyway.. I´m both bitter and thankful for this fact.
I think much thanks to this (I think) I got to see a new girl naked for the first time since February:
So, Tonight, I had eaten some REAL strawberries and a peach which both make me look oh so pretty. And I noticed the difference in the club too.
But I felt fucking chody all night. No motivation. No balls to approach.
We drank 3 drinks and chatted with my friend. I felt pretty good.
I started grinding one girl on the dancefloor (expecting to be rejected since last time I was out I got rejected about 30 times on the dancefloor,
I hate how long lasting effects rejections have on me), she let me but I ejected cause I felt uncomfortable and not horny at all.
After a long time wasted on the dancefloor we went to sit down on a sofa. It was probably about 1 o´clock and we were 2 depressed chodes in the corner.
The girl on the left side looked at me, seemed like an approach invitation. Nope can´t do it.
Finally 2 girls come and sit right next to us. I decide it´s fucking time to start.
I poke at her (shes and 8, 19yo, really short skirt, the nice hot summer look) and say "HI, how´s it going?" (I Introduce myself to her fat friend too.)
It seems like she came to sit there on purpose and she starts to ask me questions right away. Great.
Awkward conversation.
She says they are from Porvoo and visiting Helsinki.
I remember the golden rule for SNL and ask after 2 minutes (to screen for logistics and to bring sex on the table):
"So are you guys going back to Porvoo tonight?"
"Well, I´m not sure. we have a car, if I get too drunk I probably won´t go back there"
Great.
I see 2 girls making out against a wall and groping each other hotter than ever. I´m loving it and express this to her and ask
her if she´s ever tried (making the conversation sexual easily). She has. She asks if I have or have any interest that way.
Nope, not really.
Anyway, I´m too tired or whatever to keep a normal conversation going so I give up after about 3 minutes.
We decide to move somewhere else in the bar since it seems too hard to have a normal conversation witha girl tonight.
We dance for hours. It´s 2.55 AM and we decide we´ll leave at 3 AM. I decide I will make one more move on the dance floor.
I see the previous girl 3 meters from me. There´s people between us but I decide to push through and offer my arm to her.
She takes it and comes to dance with me. I spin her around and she is complying and obeing everything I want. She turns around if I want to etc.
She seems to try to guess what I want and do it right away to please me. Never had this kind of compliance.
I kiss her on the neck. We keep dancing.
I take her to get drinks. I realize I´m really nervous for some reason, hah.
She wants to go back to dance. Now for the first time ever I get to experience what I witness every weekend:
she takes my hand and leads me in the dancefloor. Yes!
We keep dancing. We don´t talk, yet it seems like she is not going anywhere from me.
It´s 3.20 pm. I decide to try the Pizza move this time (since last time I just said "Let´s go", the girl stopped me right before the door of the bar and I ended up home empty handed).
So: "I´m hungry (not really). Are You?"
"No"
"Let´s go and eat."
"Ok :) "
She seems really happy and tells her friend that we´re going to eat.
The most popular song of the summer, which I hate, is playing as we walk towards the door. I don´t hate that song anymore :)
Outside I tell her the pizza place is near, we´re going with a bus. 5 minutes. She says ok.
I´m taking it slow. This time I don´t have trouble keeping my state positive and talkative at the time of the pull since I made the realization that
knowing I might get her naked in my bed very much cheers me up, heh.
We talk basic stuff, school etc. I throw my bachelor party planning topic (which is true now, hahaa). It´s an awesome topic for bars.
We go and get the pizza, take it to go and walk across the street to my place (Yes, I´m lucky to have a pizza place right in front of my building)
Still no signs of regret or hesitation from her. Nice.
We arrive to my place, eat some pizza. Just slowly. I go to the bathroom.
I come back to the room. The radio is on so I think hmm.. I´ll dance with her for a while, escalate that way. I go to take her hand.
She gives her hand and looks into my eyes smiling.
I realize she wants it now.
This pull happened without any problems this far and it kept going the same miraculously easy way since she
gave no LMR and when I started undressing her pants she helped me and took her panties off at with same pull :)
She made the whole experience so easy and natural.
And she was a girl who really enjoyed sex. I love those girls.
One last nice detail to remember: for a long time I´ve been wanting to shove my dick in the girl´s mouth as soon as I get her in bed.
I did not remember it this time but I was standing on my knees on the bed with my boxers on. She started to feel my boner and play with it through
my boxers. Nice. Then she took them down and mmm..
So I kinda did it. Or she did :)
I really needed this. My goal for this summer was to have sexxx with one of those mini skirt/jeans girls. I love them.
They are so hot in the summer and have seemed like a dream to me this far.
I did it!
Now I realize that for the first time I´m in a situation where I got the SNL with a girl and she still likes me.
Let´s see what happens..
Btw
What I learned from this:
- every time Pizza extraction, keep it safe, no risks
- running the train with girls who liked you is always good for attraction
- trying one more girl before leaving can lead to a lay
__________________
Hold The Frame.
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30
ludvig
Respected Member
Join Date: 02/17/2010 | Posts: 386
Going out tonight, it´s friday. My goal tonight is to get drunk in the most effective and fun way and beast as hard as I can. This will mean I am going to get rejected about 5-30 times I guess.
I just listened to Jeffy Show 2 on my iPod for the first time. Being such a retard sometimes, I hadn´t really known earlier how to switch from talking like A FRIEND TO A FRIEND to MAN TO a WOMAN,
he demonstrated this nicely and now I realize that at the very minimum a simple "You´re cute" can actually make a difference..
Oh man, I just realized I used to do this one 3-4 months ago (on the dancefloor only) but I have forgotten it, statements of intent, I loved to use them. And they seemed fucking effective too. I guess I didn´t practice it enough to get it into a long time habbit. So back to saying things like "You´re fucking hot. I want you now. Let´s go."
Anyway tonight´s check list (yeah, I really seem to need one..):
DRUNK NIGHT´S LIST (usually very different from a sober night´s list)
- beast as much as possible
- don´t get all hurt by rejection like "get the fuck away from me you freak!!" comments. analysis after the night, until then just keep going like a retard robot :)
- assume attraction, assume fun personalities! There´s a lot of really fun people out there. (this should be repeated in my head when I´m not approaching)
- statements of intent: "You don´t even wanna know what I´d do to you if I took you home right now", "You´re cute, I wanna lick your face like a dog", "You´re fuckin hot, damn". I will make this stuff work.
Dancefloor
- bring the fun into it = spin her around, point out funny chode dudes, tell her what she reminds you of
- Lead her somewhere (get a drink, sit and make out, lead back to dancefloor, lead home)
- Know exactly how to iniate the pull when it seems I can get it (do it on a high note!)
* escalate. Say something fun to pump her state OR/AND a clear statement that I want her now right after that. Then time to go.
Fuck, I´m re-learning stuff I knew a year ago. Anyways..
I´ll write the results on sunday if I have the time, if not, monday.
FR
Friday April 15 2011
Ale Pub.
It´s been a long time since I´ve done drunken horny beasting. I didn´t quite get into the aggressive and efficient mode this time but it´s been a while since I have danced with
girls at all (except last monday with one girl for about 2 minutes) so this night was a success in that sence. I danced with 4-5 girls I think and got rejected maybe 2-3 times. I only approached 1 set outside the dancefloor.
Anyway, the girls I danced with were between 7-10. Yet they all gave me pretty much the same treatment. Dance with me for 2-3 minutes and leave. The last girl was pretty fucking hot. She walked onto the dancefloor, I grabbed her arm and pulled her as close to me as possible. She grinds me, turns around and grinds. It seems fuckin hot. I try to go for the makeout by staring in her eyes and getting close. She won´t look at me. I think I kissed her neck at one point. Anyway, she left a bit later.
Solutions?
I tried to not care what happens, I´ve always been too outcome dependent and trying to get every girl home aggressively. This didn´t really seem to help now.
I also tried the spinning thing to spice up the dancing. I don´t really think it helped me.
Looking back when I did better on the dancefloor, I think it really wasn´t about what I do. I reached a whole new level of success back then when I gained some more muscle, which I have lost now. So until I get that back, no further analyzing. Until then:
Run tha train with every girl that danced with me! Also run the train with every girl that seemed to like me even a bit outside the dancefloor, too.
Saturday April 16 2011
Ale Pub
This time out sober (with some energy drink to get rid of being mr low state).
Probably the best night I´ve had without alcohol due to feeling great and "the straw" (explained later)
I noticed that eating is very important. There is no point in being in a bar hungry. It just seems to fuck up everything (state, positivity, no interest in sex).
So eating before entering the club is a good idea sometimes although it´s unhealthy and expensive.
When chilling with your wing in the bar, I realized it´s important to be proactive and launch threads all the time. Not only does it make the night better, it also prepares for talking to girls.
Also I noticed how much easier it is to approach when the vibe is awesome with your wing(s) and you´re laughing your asses off. Then you just walk up and keep having fun. I´ve never had this much fun talking to girls (though I still left after 1-2 minutes cause I could not keep talking, my eternal sticking point, darn.)
And, what also helped me: the straw. I kept messing around with a straw the whole night. For some weird reason it kept me out of my head and in a more playful and irreverent state.
Weird but awesome!
To sum up the evening,
1. I approached 2 girls, had fun expressing myself, they were quite shy. I did well but I ejected. They gave me looks later but I did not go in cause I had no idea what to talk about. The good state does not solve that problem entirely.
2. A girl by herself, cute, shy blond, did not seem to be into me but I think I could have changed that if I had been able to plow longer.
3. I noticed an exceptionally cute blond girl. She obviously noticed my looks and came to stand next me with her friend for a while. I was not sure if it was an AI. Later she stared at
me from the bar. I became cocky and thought that I´ll go talk to her later. I did not see her after that. Once again, always must go right away (even with nothing to say and struggle for 30 seconds. I can run the train later.). I must train myself to take advantage of every single "warm approach" chance that I get.
That´s pretty much it. I had a blast with my friend in the bar. I requested Rebecca Black´s "Friday" and managed to make the dancefloor empty (the crowd was quite picky the whole night though) and had some nice times otherwise too.
Next time I would like to fuck. I promised myself that I won´t buy the new phone that I want (Nokia C7) until i get that nice pleasurable experience :)
"Apply what you learn, push your comfort zone and most importantly HAVE A BLAST doing it."
"Just don't ever lose track and forget why you're doing what you're doing. If that happens, then really, what's the point?"
- Pat Flynn
Getting my income and cold approach handled in 2013: 30