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Hot Seat - Copenhagen (May 23, 2010)
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Handsome

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Hot Seat – Copenhagen (May 23, 2010)

Today I had the opportunity to see Papa’s first Hot Seat event in Europe. I can say without doubt that you most definitely get your money’s worth. There’s something about watching six or seven hours of instructor pick up footage that really highlights RSD’s core principles… again and again and again. Not only are the clips highly informative and really show theory applied, they are also highly amusing to watch. Some of the shit that you see and hear is absolutely hilarious, and when Papa covers some of the subtleties of the interactions, there’s even more humour as well as lessons deeper in the recording.

I’m fairly sure guys at different levels will get massively different benefits from the program. As a beginner, this shit might just be amazing to watch and you’d be in awe to just witness what is possible. However for someone who has been in the field a bit longer, you really see the spots where your game differs from that of the instructors. If you’re experiencing blind spots, this event will definitely bring some of those into your perception.

Some of the key things that immediately jumped out at me:
- The closeness of the guy and the girl. It was intimate, close and most of the sets (that were executed properly) looked like the guy and girl were in their own little world forgetting their environment.
- The random scrambling and nonsense game. To me, each instructor did this to a certain extent. The words don’t mean shit. The physical escalation took care of attraction and the talk was just random fluff to build comfort.
- Persistence. This was a HUGE one. Just hang in there, don’t do anything retarded and keep your state up and the vibe going. Normal conversations with a determined physical escalation. The girl denies you? Try again. And again. And again. 30 minutes later, sex.
- Stay on your own rhythm. You set the standards and reality. You are the judge and she is the lucky one in the interaction. It doesn’t matter what she says. If she reacts to you positively or negatively, that is an invitation to take a step forward. You make sex no big deal and it happens naturally by the end of the night.

When you watch the footage, you’ll see yourself in a lot of these positions. If you’ve been in the field you literally can feel what’s coming and how you should be acting. What the Hot Seat did for me is fill in those little holes along the way to success. You recognize scenarios you’ve been in that have been holding you back and suddenly have a new way to deal with them. You see opportunities to step your game up a bit and see what you’ve been lacking.

You also get the reinforcement that pick up is fun. Rejection is funny, this whole game is awesome. Don’t take shit so seriously. You have a bad night, you can laugh about it anytime you like. The Hot Seat works to install a positive mindset and frame for learning and advancing your success with women. This game truly is about a win/win and it should be fun.

Some clips are viewed in silence to analyze the sub communications of the instructor. Other times Papa stops the video to explain some subtlety or make an important point about what is going on in the interaction. At the end of the program we finished with some interactive exercises designed to aid your ability to maintain rhythm and just keep flowing as well as how to speak in a positive-dominant manner.

There are some improvements that can be made.
- I think the program could be more effective if the videos were laid out in a ready to go order. Time flew past and I wanted to see more when the day was done. I think because this was the first Hot Seat in Europe it might have been a little behind the gun for time management.
- The free videos aren’t necessary. The free videos of Brad talking about approaches, his quick makeout, Alex’s 2009 video and Jeffy’s ‘American 9-Ball’ clips were shown. They’re all good and funny in their own respect but I would have preferred to see more actual infield footage that was available exclusively at the Hot Seat. These videos are available anytime.

The program was awesome. I think I would do it again if given the opportunity. So much jumps out at you and you really see some major and applicable lessons that you can use right away. There’s even some lines and techniques that you can add for the icing on the cake. Each instructor is unique yet if you’ve been in the field and are familiar with RSD, you’ll recognize that there are more similarities than differences and they all abide by a core set of principles that have been preached on RSDN. The event will crystallize these for you and really make definition of self amusement, persistence, positive-dominance and many others very clear.

If you have the opportunity to attend the Hot Seat, do it.
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Papa

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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 5292

 Handome, thanks for the review of the hot seat. I appreciate the props and the constructive criticism. Remember to go out and implement what you learned right away and you'll gain 10x more value out of the program in your post-program field work. I really had a great time and I'm going to be continually upgrading my program. My version and Tyler's version of the hot seat is definitely a limited time program that we may only do this year and other instructors are likely to have their own version that will be drastically different. So if you have a chance to attend another hot seat in Copenhagen with a new curriculum and videos, then I highly recommend that as well. I expect hot seat seminars will become a flagship for Real Social Dynamics, similar to how bootcamps have done the same.
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TOOBAD

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Nice review - looking forward to Sydney
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Xantam

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Yup it was an awesome event!

How fast Tyler and co got physical really blew me away, it was a matter of seconds before they held hands and were picking up chicks.
They really made me aware of how lacking my "physical game" was, and what I should be doing, to improve it.

Another thing was how words really means SHIT. Before I had an idea of how fluff talking really went, but seing Brad and Alex doin' there thing really just
made it clear for me "words mean shit". As long as your physically escalating - you'll get the attraction and the fluff talk is just to build comfort.

I definitely wanted too see more breakdown videos as Tylers. Papa really broke the tyler vids down, so you could understand what was going on.
I really wish the attention to detail could be the same with the other vids(Brad, Alex etc.) maybe its the lack of videos? Since Tyler's probably the one with the most recorded footage that are useable..
Also some daygame videos would've made it even better..

But all in all it was worth it, just to witness how simple the game really is. It's a pity you can't review the videos again & again.. understandable why they wanna keep this airtight and locked
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Xantam

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VisionsDivine wrote:



Xantam wrote:

I really wish the attention to detail could be the same with the other vids(Brad, Alex etc.) maybe its the lack of videos? Since Tyler's probably the one with the most recorded footage that are useable..


TD did an awesome job detailing Brad-'s, Ryan®'s and Alexander~'s vids, I'm not complaining about those at all. Papa probably did better explaining TD's vids better than TD himself, which I think is bizarre.

Yea probably - I learned the most from the TD vids - Papa really broke them down.
For me it was eye opening, all the small little details that you should be aware of.. that I either wans't doing or did with out being aware(meanin doing it inconsistently).

Anyways waiting to receive the detailed notes on mail - maybe there will be more detail on that.
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Tyler

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Awesome dudes!!  Thanks so much for the feedback.  Psyched to see Papa's first Hot Seat went well.

I'll let him know to REMOVE those few videos that are already on the internet (with the exception of Brad's fast makeout video -- I like to show that one and explain it properly, as so many people misunderstand it).  The order I came up with was field-tested over many events, so he'll do best to stick to it.

Anyway it's sort of a thrill for me to see this taking place in Europe, because I thought it would only be able to happen in the USA.  Thanks for coming out to the first event!

Tyler
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Tyler

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Xantam wrote:
Yup it was an awesome event!

How fast Tyler and co got physical really blew me away, it was a matter of seconds before they held hands and were picking up chicks.
They really made me aware of how lacking my "physical game" was, and what I should be doing, to improve it.

I definitely wanted too see more breakdown videos as Tylers. Papa really broke the tyler vids down, so you could understand what was going on.
I really wish the attention to detail could be the same with the other vids(Brad, Alex etc.) maybe its the lack of videos? Since Tyler's probably the one with the most recorded footage that are useable..
Also some daygame videos would've made it even better..

Thanks for the props man.  Yeah I tried to create an event that's one full day, not multiple days, in order to keep costs down.  When I surveyed our list, we discovered that people really wanted an event that has the "wallop" of a bootcamp, but a better price point.

So that being the case, it's always tough to decide if you want to give more feedback on the videos, or show more videos in general.  We could create a longer event where we have even more breakdown, but I tried to come up with a middle-ground that satisfied both price (ie: keeping it one day keeps the costs down) and understanding of the game.

With day game we have those two clips, but man, I get fully CREEPED OUT recording footage in the daytime.  We're sooooo up in the action on these, having a guy standing right there on, say, a park bench or something, is super weird.  THAT SAID, we're going to make it happen some day -- I'm fully determined.  If for no other reason than to prove the point that daygame is exactly the same as night game.

Anyway glad you're getting the message with the value of physical game.  Since I had that realization, my results have improved pretty dramatically.  The things I can do now take like 10X less time doing it this way -- like I can create more chemistry and attraction in 2 minutes than what took me an hour back in the day.  Let me know how it's working for you!

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natlex

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Just wanted to point out that I also think you should keep Brad's fast makeout video. When you showed it at NYC I was like meh.. were already late on time show some exclusive stuff! But you did a great job explaining it so I was like "hmm, maybe theirs more to this video... thanks Tyler".
Tyler wrote:
Awesome dudes!!  Thanks so much for the feedback.  Psyched to see Papa's first Hot Seat went well.

I'll let him know to REMOVE those few videos that are already on the internet (with the exception of Brad's fast makeout video -- I like to show that one and explain it properly, as so many people misunderstand it).  The order I came up with was field-tested over many events, so he'll do best to stick to it.

Anyway it's sort of a thrill for me to see this taking place in Europe, because I thought it would only be able to happen in the USA.  Thanks for coming out to the first event!

Tyler
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